The abuse of liberation

[Sperio]

My fellow WA delegates. We need to stop this, ever since the “Liberation” of KASIERICH, people are liberating regions that they don’t agree with. This needs to stop. This is a abuse of the liberation resolutions. What do you think.

[Naginii]

I happen to agree with you on that.

However, weaponizing the liberation (while a clever idea) only temporarily prevents the founder-controlled region the ability to password protect their borders. So long as they maintain a strong DG and security administration, with collective fingers on the eject button, they won't miss not having the password.

[Kurnugia]

I happen to agree with you on that.

However, weaponizing the liberation (while a clever idea) only temporarily prevents the founder-controlled region the ability to password protect their borders. So long as they maintain a strong DG and security administration, with collective fingers on the eject button, they won't miss not having the password.

oh boi, you really don't know anything about gp do you?

[Nowy Mazovia]

What exactly is the point of "liberating" regions?

[Prydania]

My fellow WA delegates. We need to stop this, ever since the “Liberation” of KASIERICH, people are liberating regions that they don’t agree with. This needs to stop. This is a abuse of the liberation resolutions. What do you think.

I think that there’s no practical, tangible difference between Nazis in the NS community and those who moralize while defending Nazi safe-spaces.

Too blunt? Maybe, but you asked.

[Willania Imperium]

My fellow WA delegates. We need to stop this, ever since the “Liberation” of KASIERICH, people are liberating regions that they don’t agree with. This needs to stop. This is a abuse of the liberation resolutions. What do you think.

I think that you're taking things too seriously. This is meant to be a game about nations as your own and how you shape it. There's bound to be some sort of madness playing around, and I find it entertaining to see it play out. If you don't like it, just ignore it.

[Alcohol-Related Misconduct]

My fellow WA delegates. We need to stop this, ever since the “Liberation” of KASIERICH, people are liberating regions that they don’t agree with. This needs to stop. This is a abuse of the liberation resolutions. What do you think.

I think I'll be voting AGAINST every single SC resolution in protest, and I urge anyone who feels the SC is unlawful, pathological, and abusive to join me.

[Shazbotdom]

"Oh, holy mother of fucking Buddha!" The imperial delegate sighed, "You all need to grow the hell up."

[Likar]

Fully agree. This should be made into a WA proposal

[Shazbotdom]

Fully agree. This should be made into a WA proposal

"You can't legislate SC actions in the GA," the imperial ambassador noted. "It will be thrown out by the Secretariat as illegal. Good job."

[Oakrugia]

What exactly is the point of "liberating" regions?

The original point of liberations was to really shift back the past before the raid even happened, but now, since it is used for proposals like the one you see on the WA, it just gives it a joke-like appearance to many other NSers.

[Flanderlion]

Original purpose of a liberation was to remove the invisible password from raided regions. It later expanded to preventing passwords being put onto regions in general. It isn't an abuse of the liberation function.

Presently they're also being used as condemnations because condemnations have no consequences for them, so why would you just give them a free badge?

[Kaiserreich Subreddit]

When all the right-wing regions(even the monarchist) are being liberated, but none of the communist ones.

[La Navasse]

Original purpose of a liberation was to remove the invisible password from raided regions. It later expanded to preventing passwords being put onto regions in general. It isn't an abuse of the liberation function.

Presently they're also being used as condemnations because condemnations have no consequences for them, so why would you just give them a free badge?

I would say there is no "abuse" of Liberations. The "original" Liberations are simply Traditional Liberations, which rely on what are thought to be the fundamentals of the SC. The current trend of Liberations are in Neoliberations, or Neolibs, which aim to not only take reactive action, but preemptive action, similar to a vaccine rather than a treatment.

[Aunsend]

When all the right-wing regions(even the monarchist) are being liberated, but none of the communist ones.

Feels absolutely terrible man

[Kaiserreich Subreddit]

When all the right-wing regions(even the monarchist) are being liberated, but none of the communist ones.

Feels absolutely terrible man

For sure

[Sacara]

Original purpose of a liberation was to remove the invisible password from raided regions. It later expanded to preventing passwords being put onto regions in general. It isn't an abuse of the liberation function.

Presently they're also being used as condemnations because condemnations have no consequences for them, so why would you just give them a free badge?

I would say there is no "abuse" of Liberations. The "original" Liberations are simply Traditional Liberations, which rely on what are thought to be the fundamentals of the SC. The current trend of Liberations are in Neoliberations, or Neolibs, which aim to not only take reactive action, but preemptive action, similar to a vaccine rather than a treatment.

Great way to put it.

[Schiltzberg]

It is an abuse of liberation proposals. The purpose of a liberation is "to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region," but now liberations are passing for regions where a password is not in place, nor does there seem to be any intent from the delegate of said-region to impose one. In the current resolution, it is liberating The East Pacific, which is counter-intuitive, because it is a feeder region, and unless I'm mistaken, it is not possible to password-protect a region like this. And yet, somehow, all of these liberation proposals are getting passed by landslide margins!

[Arkeyana]

My fellow WA delegates. We need to stop this, ever since the “Liberation” of KASIERICH, people are liberating regions that they don’t agree with. This needs to stop. This is a abuse of the liberation resolutions. What do you think.

Fully agree, the liberation is meant to free the regions who've fallen from corruption* or raiding, not damaging rival regions.

*Like, for example, a coup happens.

[Fauxia]

When all the right-wing regions(even the monarchist) are being liberated, but none of the communist ones.

Let’s see.

Union of Confederate Regions,
The League of Conservative Nations,
Federation of Conservative Nations,
Libertatem,
The Iron Fortress,

And a bunch of others. Right-wing regions aren’t being liberated, nazi ones are.

[Shazbotdom]

"Ambassadors, if you have a issue with them, then vote AGAINST them," the Shazite Ambassador said. "Sitting around bitching about it won't change how it works."

The Shazite Ambassador was honestly irritated as these ambassadors would rather complain like schoolchildren than do something proactive.

[Alcohol-Related Misconduct]

"Ambassadors, if you have a issue with them, then vote AGAINST them," the Shazite Ambassador said. "Sitting around bitching about it won't change how it works."

The Shazite Ambassador was honestly irritated as these ambassadors would rather complain like schoolchildren than do something proactive.

Yes well the problem with voting is that it is only effective when you hold a majority. That's why we have discussions, to persuade people to our side and have them vote with us so our votes will have an impact. This is pretty simple stuff, I'm surprised you can't understand it.

[Bears Armed]

Isn't there a risk of so many of these 'Liberations' getting into the queue that they'll make it impossible to get Liberations for regions which really need those voted through in time?

[Hatterleigh]

When all the right-wing regions(even the monarchist) are being liberated, but none of the communist ones.

Legit so true dude. If they're going to use liberations, at least use it based on the most high-tier raiding nations that take condemnations like compliments, and not on how radical their political structure is.

[Hatterleigh]

"Ambassadors, if you have a issue with them, then vote AGAINST them," the Shazite Ambassador said. "Sitting around bitching about it won't change how it works."

The Shazite Ambassador was honestly irritated as these ambassadors would rather complain like schoolchildren than do something proactive.

Do you not understand the purpose of political debate?