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[DRAFT] Repeal "Liberate Iran"

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[DRAFT] Repeal "Liberate Iran"

Postby Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:01 pm

The Security Council,

Recognizing that Iran’s history is important to the international community,

Noting that Iran has once again been invaded,

Further noting that defenders have made no attempt to free the region from the invader menace,

Demonstrating that Iran is once again left without protection,

Stating that Iran's invasion was caused by SC#241,

Acknowledging that SC#241 was intended to aid in establishing a native community in Iran,

Observing that no attempt to establish a native community has been made,

Believing that Iran has once again been failed by the international community,

Hereby Repeals “Liberate Iran.”
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:38 pm

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Postby Lenlyvit » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:39 pm

Fully against, especially since TBH is still in control and if this passed you'd lock it as a passworded trophy.
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Postby Die PreuBen Kaiserreich » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:41 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:Fully against, especially since TBH is still in control and if this passed you'd lock it as a passworded trophy.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:43 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:Fully against, especially since TBH is still in control and if this passed you'd lock it as a passworded trophy.

Which is honestly a bit weird considering the op officially ended like a week ago, and yet Souls remains delegate...

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Postby Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:57 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:Fully against, especially since TBH is still in control and if this passed you'd lock it as a passworded trophy.


We've ended the op and have no intention of sticking around. We fully expected that we'd have been kicked out by now, or at least an attempt had been made at taking back the delegacy. We don't want Iran as a trophy. Souls just hasn't bothered to resign because he doesn't need his WA elsewhere right now.
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Postby Lenlyvit » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:00 pm

Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:Fully against, especially since TBH is still in control and if this passed you'd lock it as a passworded trophy.


We've ended the op and have no intention of sticking around. We fully expected that we'd have been kicked out by now, or at least an attempt had been made at taking back the delegacy. We don't want Iran as a trophy. Souls just hasn't bothered to resign because he doesn't need his WA elsewhere right now.

Ill believe the op is over the day I see all those raider WA nations resigned or moved out :roll:.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:01 pm

Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:Fully against, especially since TBH is still in control and if this passed you'd lock it as a passworded trophy.


We've ended the op and have no intention of sticking around. We fully expected that we'd have been kicked out by now, or at least an attempt had been made at taking back the delegacy. We don't want Iran as a trophy. Souls just hasn't bothered to resign because he doesn't need his WA elsewhere right now.

Or Vars for that matter, who looks to be precisely one endo lower

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Postby Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:06 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:
Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton wrote:
We've ended the op and have no intention of sticking around. We fully expected that we'd have been kicked out by now, or at least an attempt had been made at taking back the delegacy. We don't want Iran as a trophy. Souls just hasn't bothered to resign because he doesn't need his WA elsewhere right now.

Ill believe the op is over the day I see all those raider WA nations resigned or moved out :roll:.


If we wanted to stick around, nobody would've resigned. It's just a couple people who haven't needed their WA yet and didn't bother to resign, and a bunch of pilers who didn't get the memo.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:07 pm

You’re going to need far more compelling arguments and phrasing that specifically counter the liberation for this to have a shot. For example;

-you could dispute it’s “treasured history” .... of being locked for years?
-you could state natives were also misled by this liberation and the promises associated with it of rebuilding the region and bringing natural activity to it
-you could point out how the liberation of Greece, which Iran is compared to, has left it small and inactive, and argue that a founder is needed to truly have an active region, which is hard to make happen while a region is liberated
-you could counter that works of plagiarism by prior authors have no relevance to this liberation
-you could point out that the liberation has not done much for the region’s “security, growth and stability,” as few new native members have been recruited, it was occupied for a month by one outside force (“defenders”) that removed potential natives it did not like (source: TRT article), it wa then occupied by another outside force that removed the first occupying force (raiders), despite the latter operation ending it has since not been reclaimed by natives or another outside force, and at no point has there been a stable, internally elected delegate
-you could argue that no parties did indeed *both* properly secure the region and/or trigger the development of a community

Overall, your best bet is to shine light on the universal failure of the liberation to achieve it’s goals (quoting it forumside line by line to prove so), the liberations ocassional *prevention* of those goals, and argue that only via having a founder could those goals be achieved, for which the ability to password is necessary.

Good luck!
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Postby Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:08 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:You’re going to need far more compelling arguments and phrasing that specifically counter the liberation for this to have a shot. For example;

-you could dispute it’s “treasured history” .... of being locked for years?
-you could state natives were also misled by this liberation and the promises associated with it of rebuilding the region and bringing natural activity to it
-you could point out how the liberation of Greece, which Iran is compared to, has left it small and inactive, and argue that a founder is needed to truly have an active region, which is hard to make happen while a region is liberated
-you could counter that works of plagiarism by prior authors have no relevance to this liberation
-you could point out that the liberation has not done much for the region’s “security, growth and stability,” as few new native members have been recruited, it was occupied for a month by one outside force (“defenders”) that removed potential natives it did not like (source: TRT article), it wa then occupied by another outside force that removed the first occupying force (raiders), despite the latter operation ending it has since not been reclaimed by natives or another outside force, and at no point has there been a stable, internally elected delegate
-you could argue that no parties did indeed *both* properly secure the region and/or trigger the development of a community

Overall, your best bet is to shine light on the universal failure of the liberation to achieve it’s goals (quoting it forumside line by line to prove so), and argue that only via having a founder could those goals be achieved, for which the ability to password is necessary.

Good luck!


Thanks! I'll keep those things in mind and get started on another draft.
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:23 am

Hahahahahahahahaha... no.
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Postby Isvataan » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:03 am

Hmm, this should also be repealed as well (since the natives are in control for awhile)

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Postby Armaros » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:15 am

Full support for this proposal, tho a bit short.
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full support but u need better arguments bro

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Postby Terra Voltera » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:38 pm

No support at all, still and always. Iramerica does not want it repealed, and defenders supporting a repeal that was written by an active raider in TBH (who happened to control the region at the time) is a dam shame. TBH and other raider org nations still riddle the region, making placing a password and repealing this just like handing them a trophy whenever they want it.
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:26 pm

Isvataan wrote:Hmm, this should also be repealed as well (since the natives are in control for awhile)

Uh no, there's no founder and second I don't think the natives want to password the region yet and third Iran should be a free region for All Iranians.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:29 pm

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:
Isvataan wrote:Hmm, this should also be repealed as well (since the natives are in control for awhile)

Uh no, there's no founder and second I don't think the natives want to password the region yet and third Iran should be a free region for All Iranians.

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Postby Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:39 pm

I do not intend to continue this project.
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Postby Kurnugia » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:11 pm

Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton wrote:I do not intend to continue this project.

Everone got it except Isvataan. :p
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Postby Isvataan » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:08 pm

Ah so be it :P

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Postby Feux » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:23 pm

Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton wrote:I do not intend to continue this project.

I would go ahead and change [Draft] to [Dropped] or something then.
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Postby Vergen-Europa » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:20 am

Infinite support

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Vergen-Europa wrote:Infinite support

Cpt Hamilton, the OP, has stated that he does not intend to carry on with this project. Why are you supporting a dead horse?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:20 pm

Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton wrote:I do not intend to continue this project.

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