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Postby Morriband » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:13 pm

La Navasse wrote:
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Right - don't blame your horribly constructed arguments.

Anyways, SCUT just had war declared on us for not being fascists. Take a look

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I shall resubmit this proposal after the beginning of Major.

Why do you want to have Arcem liberated so badly, in spite of the opposition you're facing?

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Postby Unified Coloradan Republic » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:27 pm

STOP LA NAVASSE! STOP LA NAVASSE! STOP LA NAVASSE

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Postby The Australian Federal Republic » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 pm

La Navasse wrote:I shall resubmit this proposal after the beginning of Major.

Why do you continue to fruitlessly peruse this weaponized liberation. Despite your constant claims that this is a Fascist region, you've yet to provide any conclusive evidence and have seen (almost) total opposition from everybody on this thread. I've personally been through their public archives and discord server, and found nothing of consequence. No hateful discrimination, no radical nationalism and no support for anything remotely Fascist (terrible minions memes though).

Drop this personal vendetta and focus on the Actual Fascist regions on your list.
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Postby Prydania » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:58 pm

The Australian Federal Republic wrote:
La Navasse wrote:I shall resubmit this proposal after the beginning of Major.

Why do you continue to fruitlessly peruse this weaponized liberation. Despite your constant claims that this is a Fascist region, you've yet to provide any conclusive evidence and have seen (almost) total opposition from everybody on this thread. I've personally been through their public archives and discord server, and found nothing of consequence. No hateful discrimination, no radical nationalism and no support for anything remotely Fascist (terrible minions memes though).

Drop this personal vendetta and focus on the Actual Fascist regions on your list.

Here here!

Contrats to SCUT for avoiding this travesty. Best of luck to you guys in the future :)
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Postby Swarshengaggen » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:39 pm

The Australian Federal Republic wrote:
La Navasse wrote:I shall resubmit this proposal after the beginning of Major.

Why do you continue to fruitlessly peruse this weaponized liberation. Despite your constant claims that this is a Fascist region, you've yet to provide any conclusive evidence and have seen (almost) total opposition from everybody on this thread. I've personally been through their public archives and discord server, and found nothing of consequence. No hateful discrimination, no radical nationalism and no support for anything remotely Fascist (terrible minions memes though).

Drop this personal vendetta and focus on the Actual Fascist regions on your list.

This is no personal vendetta, though you may have interests in leaving SCUT untouched. This is the application of justice towards an interregional organization that collaborates and sympathizes with fascists.
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Postby The Australian Federal Republic » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:43 am

Swarshengaggen wrote:though you may have interests in leaving SCUT untouched.

No, not really.

Swarshengaggen wrote:This is the application of justice towards an interregional organization that collaborates and sympathizes with fascists.

Provide some actual evidence, and maybe you'll change our minds. As it stands, you've been pushing this weaponized liberation despite your lack of evidence and support. Understand that both of these things are required if you want this to pass.
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Postby La Navasse » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:29 am

The Australian Federal Republic wrote:
Swarshengaggen wrote:though you may have interests in leaving SCUT untouched.

No, not really.

Swarshengaggen wrote:This is the application of justice towards an interregional organization that collaborates and sympathizes with fascists.

Provide some actual evidence, and maybe you'll change our minds. As it stands, you've been pushing this weaponized liberation despite your lack of evidence and support. Understand that both of these things are required if you want this to pass.

Unless you're hiding behind a puppet, it doesn't exactly appear to be that you have much experience, nor that you've done the proper research. I know I have.
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Postby The Australian Federal Republic » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:50 am

La Navasse wrote:Unless you're hiding behind a puppet, it doesn't exactly appear to be that you have much experience, nor that you've done the proper research. I know I have.

If you've done the 'proper research', please kindly share it. As for my experience: just because I am new here, dosen't mean I cannot recognize a fascist when I see one.
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Postby Hemuraile » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:46 am

Liberate Arcem failed to reach quorum even with telegram campaigns. What does La Navasse do? Ah yes, he submits the same damned proposal text again without even considering what changes he could’ve made, or perhaps what things he should have had never done.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:29 am

La Navasse wrote:
The Australian Federal Republic wrote:No, not really.


Provide some actual evidence, and maybe you'll change our minds. As it stands, you've been pushing this weaponized liberation despite your lack of evidence and support. Understand that both of these things are required if you want this to pass.

Unless you're hiding behind a puppet, it doesn't exactly appear to be that you have much experience, nor that you've done the proper research. I know I have.

Prejudice doesn't necessarily help proposals either.

Join dates doesn't mean someone can't research. Heck, you still have a long way to go to prove anything..
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Postby Tribes of Israel » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:54 am

La Navasse wrote:
The Australian Federal Republic wrote:No, not really.


Provide some actual evidence, and maybe you'll change our minds. As it stands, you've been pushing this weaponized liberation despite your lack of evidence and support. Understand that both of these things are required if you want this to pass.

Unless you're hiding behind a puppet, it doesn't exactly appear to be that you have much experience, nor that you've done the proper research. I know I have.


If YOU had done your research you'd realise that SCUT is home to a JEWISH FOUNDED REGION, The Commonwealth of Royals, and that I am the (Orthodox) Jew who founded it, (I mean, my main is Tribes of Israel, Israel, who else would chose a name like that? Let alone a Fascist.)

Many people who accuse SCUT as Fascist and/or Nazi Collaborators ignore this fact for usually two reasons:

1. They don't do ANY proper research and accuse on previous accusations and feelings, or just judge us by our embassies, etc.

2. They DO in fact do research, but leave out facts such as this as they know that once they even mention them ONCE (as they don't), their entire argument would fall apart and their publicity would drop faster than a person yelling "NAZI!"

And if you don't believe me, I know A LOT about Judaism, as it is my faith, (yes I am orthodox), and last I checked, Fascists hated us [Jews] with a passion, the Nazis built death camps simply to destroy any remnant of Judaism in the world, it failed however, as it always does.

I know from personal experience that SCUT is very welcoming for anyone, and is far from Authoritarian, let alone Fascist, you can ask anyone in SCUT, and they'd tell you that I'm Jewish.

All in all, SCUT isn't Fascist because CoR would simply not exist, the fact that you re-submitted the proposition shows how desperate you are to destroy anyone with an opposing view of society, especially anyone who isn't on the left, just admit that you're wrong, everyone is disagreeing on this proposal and you know it, if you really believe we're fascists, explain how I and CoR exist within it.

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Postby Morriband » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:10 am

So your proposal flopped completely, you fail to provide evidence, and you resubmit it all over again, changing nothing. Great work. :clap:

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Postby Granluras » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:14 am

Can’t wait to see this brought down in the World Assembly
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Postby Prydania » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:37 am

La Navasse wrote:Unless you're hiding behind a puppet, it doesn't exactly appear to be that you have much experience, nor that you've done the proper research. I know I have.

Provide hard evidence that they are fascists or fascist sympathizers.

The only people who have spoken up about what they’ve found are people who have found the opposite of what you’re claiming. What I, and many others, have found is that SCUT can’t even remotely be considered fascist.

So if you want to change our minds? You’ll have to provide some actual evidence that the rest of us somehow missed.
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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:41 am

I don't get these anti civilisation anti western Marxists. Why do you think its your job to police other people's thoughts and create a Marxist echo chamber.

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Postby Faleshek » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:04 pm

La Navasse:
As I warned you, you are now blocked. It's okay to receive one telegram on an open security council proposal. It is understandable if someone sends two.
Five is definitely not acceptable, no matter the issue.

Ultramarr:
I don't get these anti civilisation anti western Marxists. Why do you think its your job to police other people's thoughts and create a Marxist echo chamber.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Postby New Legland » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:29 pm

Faleshek wrote:La Navasse:
As I warned you, you are now blocked. It's okay to receive one telegram on an open security council proposal. It is understandable if someone sends two.
Five is definitely not acceptable, no matter the issue.

Wooooow. That's how desperate you are? It's already clear that you're doing this because of a personal grudge but this is the final nail in the coffin.

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Postby La Navasse » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:05 pm

New Legland wrote:
Faleshek wrote:La Navasse:
As I warned you, you are now blocked. It's okay to receive one telegram on an open security council proposal. It is understandable if someone sends two.
Five is definitely not acceptable, no matter the issue.

Wooooow. That's how desperate you are? It's already clear that you're doing this because of a personal grudge but this is the final nail in the coffin.

As I've said, there had been voter fatigue in the SC due to the recent influx of proposals queued. Multiple telegrams are required to gain quorum, likely for any proposal.
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Postby Chricoma » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:24 pm

New Legland wrote:
Faleshek wrote:La Navasse:
As I warned you, you are now blocked. It's okay to receive one telegram on an open security council proposal. It is understandable if someone sends two.
Five is definitely not acceptable, no matter the issue.

Wooooow. That's how desperate you are? It's already clear that you're doing this because of a personal grudge but this is the final nail in the coffin.


Dude, I disagree with La Navasse's proposals
But five telegrams?

You need to chill dood, Nation States is a game.
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Postby New Legland » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:30 pm

La Navasse wrote:
New Legland wrote:Wooooow. That's how desperate you are? It's already clear that you're doing this because of a personal grudge but this is the final nail in the coffin.

As I've said, there had been voter fatigue in the SC due to the recent influx of proposals queued. Multiple telegrams are required to gain quorum, likely for any proposal.

Five is overkill.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:32 pm

New Legland wrote:
La Navasse wrote:As I've said, there had been voter fatigue in the SC due to the recent influx of proposals queued. Multiple telegrams are required to gain quorum, likely for any proposal.

Five is overkill.

The number 5 is probably including Nazi Europa, FEMDOM Empire, this, and maybe a few others? Unless its five for just this, then that's insane.
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Postby New Legland » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:34 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:
New Legland wrote:Five is overkill.

The number 5 is probably including Nazi Europa, FEMDOM Empire, this, and maybe a few others? Unless its five for just this, then that's insane.

It's just for this.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:46 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:The number 5 is probably including Nazi Europa, FEMDOM Empire, this, and maybe a few others? Unless its five for just this, then that's insane.

It's the latter.

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Postby Prydania » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:59 pm

La Navasse, dude. You need to learn two things.
How to pick your battles and when to spend your political capital.
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Postby La Navasse » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:18 pm

Prydania wrote:La Navasse, dude. You need to learn two things.
How to pick your battles and when to spend your political capital.

I've already done such to pass three, and soon four, Security Council resolutions. I think that's sufficient experience, but you are holier. :bow:
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