[DRAFT] Liberate Kekistani Republic

[Botschaft von]

Description: THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

ACKNOWLEDGING that a quote, "Anti-Fascist" raider organization has occupied the Kekistani Republic,

UNDERSTANDING that the Kekistani Republic is a far-right region,

NOTING that the region is not a fascist region by any means and is filled with those open to people of other views,

OBSERVING that said raider organization has suppressed any speech that does not praise their rule and banned nations that have posted such speech,

RECOGNIZING the many embassies of the Kekistani Republic and the regions large influence,

BELIEVING that said "Anti-Fascist" raider organization is an anti-democratic and anti-freedom organization that oppresses those who even slightly oppose it.

HEREBY liberates Kekistani Republic.

WA Delegate Schnieder: I believe that this draft still needs to be a bit more fleshed out. I have sent letters to several former residents asking for everything they know and am currently waiting for replies. If you're here to provide constructive criticism and recommendations for what should be included or removed, I implore that you reply.

[Botschaft von]

UPDATE 1: I have been informed that the reason for the success of the invasion was due to Peoples of Kekistan being a TRF spy posing as a resident who gave the TRF the password (which can be seen by their mockery of a flag and motto).

[RiderSyl]

An "update" a few minutes after your original post shouldn't require a separate post.

As for the proposal...

ACKNOWLEDGING that a quote, "Anti-Fascist" raider organization has occupied the Kekistani Republic

What's with the language used here? Is there any doubt to the fact that TRF is anti-fascist?

UNDERSTANDING that the Kekistani Republic is a far-right region,

This is like stating that Right to Life is a pro-life region. It's clear by the name what the region's politics are.

NOTING that the region is not a fascist region by any means and is filled with those open to people of other views,

Do you have anything to back this up? If so, put it in the proposal.

OBSERVING that said raider organization has suppressed any speech that does not praise their rule and banned nations that have posted such speech,

That's not a particularly compelling argument for a liberation. Most occupations do this.

RECOGNIZING the many embassies of the Kekistani Republic and the regions large influence,

You're kidding, right?

BELIEVING that said "Anti-Fascist" raider organization is an anti-democratic and anti-freedom organization that oppresses those who even slightly oppose it.

Which could be an argument for repealing their Commendation, or trying to Condemn them. It has no bearing on whether to Liberate this region.

[La Navasse]

This is a modern Dank Memes, isn't it?

I oppose this proposal, as the Kekistani Republic is simply a fascist region. The Security Council should have no obligation to free authoritarian regions.

[United Massachusetts]

I still think we should repeal TRF's commendation, y'all.

[Botschaft von]

This is a modern Dank Memes, isn't it?

I oppose this proposal, as the Kekistani Republic is simply a fascist region. The Security Council should have no obligation to free authoritarian regions.

I was not asking for your approval, just constructive criticism and recommendations. I have been a member of the Kekistani Republic before and know very well that no one has fascist intentions. Do you have any proof of the region being a fascist? Just so you know, you shouldn't judge a book from its cover, the region is simply just s***posting and memes, it is not related to fascism at all. In fact, the region is quite the opposite of what you describe it to be, it's practically an anarchy, anyone can say what they want, they can still be criticized, but it's a great deal better than fascism. Now... Any constructive criticism?

[Drop Your Pants]

I still think we should repeal TRF's commendation, y'all.

Then go make a proposal about it, preferably over there in the corner.

[La Navasse]

This is a modern Dank Memes, isn't it?

I oppose this proposal, as the Kekistani Republic is simply a fascist region. The Security Council should have no obligation to free authoritarian regions.

I was not asking for your approval, just constructive criticism and recommendations. I have been a member of the Kekistani Republic before and know very well that no one has fascist intentions. Do you have any proof of the region being a fascist? Just so you know, you shouldn't judge a book from its cover, the region is simply just s***posting and memes, it is not related to fascism at all. In fact, the region is quite the opposite of what you describe it to be, it's practically an anarchy, anyone can say what they want, they can still be criticized, but it's a great deal better than fascism. Now... Any constructive criticism?

My criticism is this: find reasons that it isn't fascist, because most of NS thinks it is.

EDIT: Also: https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb_s ... -offset=20
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb_s ... -offset=20
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb_s ... i+Republic
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb_s ... i+Republic
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb_s ... i+Republic

The most egregious posts? https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=26052796 https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=25278519

EDIT II: An "a" was misplaced.

[Botschaft von]

An "update" a few minutes after your original post shouldn't require a separate post.

As for the proposal...

ACKNOWLEDGING that a quote, "Anti-Fascist" raider organization has occupied the Kekistani Republic

What's with the language used here? Is there any doubt to the fact that TRF is anti-fascist?

UNDERSTANDING that the Kekistani Republic is a far-right region,

This is like stating that Right to Life is a pro-life region. It's clear by the name what the region's politics are.

NOTING that the region is not a fascist region by any means and is filled with those open to people of other views,

Do you have anything to back this up? If so, put it in the proposal.

OBSERVING that said raider organization has suppressed any speech that does not praise their rule and banned nations that have posted such speech,

That's not a particularly compelling argument for a liberation. Most occupations do this.

RECOGNIZING the many embassies of the Kekistani Republic and the regions large influence,

You're kidding, right?

BELIEVING that said "Anti-Fascist" raider organization is an anti-democratic and anti-freedom organization that oppresses those who even slightly oppose it.

Which could be an argument for repealing their Commendation, or trying to Condemn them. It has no bearing on whether to Liberate this region.

1. Agreed.
2. No, but in this context, their raiding a region they think is fascist.
3. Agreed, I'll merge it with the NOTING section.
4. Noted
5. I know, however the resolution is to be written from the WA's perspective according to the formatting rules.
6. I'll replace that with RECOGNIZING that the occupation will only cause a negative effect on the world due to the regions high influence on its neighbors.
7. Noted. Thank you for being a great example of what constructive criticism is.

[Botschaft von]

I was not asking for your approval, just constructive criticism and recommendations. I have been a member of the Kekistani Republic before and know very well that no one has fascist intentions. Do you have any proof of the region being a fascist? Just so you know, you shouldn't judge a book from its cover, the region is simply just s***posting and memes, it is not related to fascism at all. In fact, the region is quite the opposite of what you describe it to be, it's practically an anarchy, anyone can say what they want, they can still be criticized, but it's a great deal better than fascism. Now... Any constructive criticism?

My criticism is this: find a reasons that it isn't fascist, because most of NS thinks it is.

How about nearly the entire paragraph?

[La Navasse]

My criticism is this: find a reasons that it isn't fascist, because most of NS thinks it is.

How about nearly the entire paragraph?

I can't quite decipher what you mean by that.

[Fauxia]

You brought up embassies- which means, if embassies mean influence. They have nazi and fascist influence. Take a look.

KAISERREICH- I'm far nicer to these guys then most of GP. They still deserve their name of "nazi" or "nazi collaborator"
The Iron Order- A very openly fascist region. Check the wfe, or the rmb (one that has people literally advocate for the execution of communists).
Federation of Greater German Republics- I'm not sure about this region, and don't know a ton. However, it is tagged "monarchist" and "totalitarian," and "anti-communist," which is never a good sign. It also has embassies with KR and TIO.
Union of Nationalists- Have embassies with fascist regions. Again, don't know enough to know if it is fascist, but I believe it was tagged so at one point.
The Confederacy of Free Lands- Judging by the fact that they welcome "white" nations, with no mention of any other race, they would border on white supremacy, seems to me.
Calumet- As I found out, a protectorate of KAISERREICH.
The Union of the Axis Powers- Clearly a fascist region, from the name on down. Closer to actual nazi, judging by the fact that they say pride in "our folk" which is sadly ambiguous.
Altmora- While perhaps not quite a fascist region, it is alt-right. Very alt-right. It has no issue with fascists, definitely.
International Sovereignty Pact- Tagged fascist, very clearly open to them
The Coalition of Fascist Nations- Very clearly fascist.
The Confederate States of PEEPO- Judging by the wfe, appears to support the execution of communists for their views
United Kekistani States- Has embassies with almost exclusively fascist regions
Imperial Roman Coprosperity Sphere- Tagged fascist.
The Kek Collective- Look at that, constructing embassies with The Iron Order.

That's several regions that are clearly fascist or fascist sympathizing. If embassies are so important, then, this region is clearly fascist. Moreover, they do not have embassies with any traditional left-leaning or socialist regions, which aids this. This is most certainly a fascist region, and TRF, the SPSF, and TGW are justified in their advances.

[United Massachusetts]

To clarify, embassies don't necessarily mean influence. Though Kekistani Republic is still fascist.

[Kurnugia]

I will simply point out that "Kekistan" has its origins in /pol/. I think that should raise a red flag.

[Fauxia]

To clarify, embassies don't necessarily mean influence. Though Kekistani Republic is still fascist.

But according to the OP, it is. In which case Kekistani Republic is certainly fascist

[FarmerJohn]

You brought up embassies- which means, if embassies mean influence. They have nazi and fascist influence. Take a look.
United Kekistani States- Has embassies with almost exclusively fascist regions

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That region was started by my IRL friends 2-3 months ago, & we accepted any embassies that came to us. We were/are not facist, just dumb kids laughing at memes. I'm also a relative newb to the "bad" regions, & would cancel embassies with facists, but we were raided by Lily. So. All the other ones seem like They're bad though. Just didn't want my name tarnished.

[The Atlae Isles]

Kekistani Republic was the successor to Republic of Kekistan, which, if not a very fascist region, a region that had many MANY rule breakers. They were very anti-mod because they were not following the rules, and you could just see people being deleted left and right for violating the OSRS. At one point, the WFE was edited by mod telling them to quit it and follow the rules.

So if and when the founder was inevitably deleted, they had a backup plan (Kekistani Republic was the backup region) and put up a defense. However, it was raided because t deserved it.

So no, there is no way Kekistani Republic will be liberated.

[Kenmoria]

The Security Council is meant for saving innocent regions that have been occupied by raiders, not for defending regions that are arguably fascist.

[Botschaft von]

The Security Council is meant for saving innocent regions that have been occupied by raiders, not for defending regions that are arguably fascist.

The Kekistani Republic is not fascist like I said, it's closer to anarchy than fascism. What do you mean by not defending arguably fascist regions? What about arguably communist regions? And who are you to define what the Security Council is meant for?

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

While I technically have no say in this issue, please, help us!

[Kurnugia]

The Security Council is meant for saving innocent regions that have been occupied by raiders, not for defending regions that are arguably fascist.

The Kekistani Republic is not fascist like I said, it's closer to anarchy than fascism. What do you mean by not defending arguably fascist regions? What about arguably communist regions? And who are you to define what the Security Council is meant for?

1)When someone takes stuff from /pol/ he shouldn't wonder why he is deemed a fascist.

2) whatboutism.

3)Well, i'd like to define the SC as the following:
Saving worthy regions
Handing over awards for good players

[Kenmoria]

The Security Council is meant for saving innocent regions that have been occupied by raiders, not for defending regions that are arguably fascist.

The Kekistani Republic is not fascist like I said, it's closer to anarchy than fascism. What do you mean by not defending arguably fascist regions? What about arguably communist regions? And who are you to define what the Security Council is meant for?

It is quite clearly fascist, as numerous others have pointed out. What I mean by not defending fascist regions is that the SC could focus its efforts on less condemned ideologies. I am not trying to define what the SC is meant for, merely saying what I believe a majority of the community think it is meant for.

[Gerstahl]

You brought up embassies- which means, if embassies mean influence. They have nazi and fascist influence. Take a look.

KAISERREICH- I'm far nicer to these guys then most of GP. They still deserve their name of "nazi" or "nazi collaborator"
The Iron Order- A very openly fascist region. Check the wfe, or the rmb (one that has people literally advocate for the execution of communists).
Federation of Greater German Republics- I'm not sure about this region, and don't know a ton. However, it is tagged "monarchist" and "totalitarian," and "anti-communist," which is never a good sign. It also has embassies with KR and TIO.
Union of Nationalists- Have embassies with fascist regions. Again, don't know enough to know if it is fascist, but I believe it was tagged so at one point.
The Confederacy of Free Lands- Judging by the fact that they welcome "white" nations, with no mention of any other race, they would border on white supremacy, seems to me.
Calumet- As I found out, a protectorate of KAISERREICH.
The Union of the Axis Powers- Clearly a fascist region, from the name on down. Closer to actual nazi, judging by the fact that they say pride in "our folk" which is sadly ambiguous.
Altmora- While perhaps not quite a fascist region, it is alt-right. Very alt-right. It has no issue with fascists, definitely.
International Sovereignty Pact- Tagged fascist, very clearly open to them
The Coalition of Fascist Nations- Very clearly fascist.
The Confederate States of PEEPO- Judging by the wfe, appears to support the execution of communists for their views
United Kekistani States- Has embassies with almost exclusively fascist regions
Imperial Roman Coprosperity Sphere- Tagged fascist.
The Kek Collective- Look at that, constructing embassies with The Iron Order.

That's several regions that are clearly fascist or fascist sympathizing. If embassies are so important, then, this region is clearly fascist. Moreover, they do not have embassies with any traditional left-leaning or socialist regions, which aids this. This is most certainly a fascist region, and TRF, the SPSF, and TGW are justified in their advances.

We in Great Altmora prefer to think of ourselves as nationalists or right-wing populists.

[Nullite]

1)When someone takes stuff from /pol/ he shouldn't wonder why he is deemed a fascist.

2) whatboutism.

3)Well, i'd like to define the SC as the following:
Saving worthy regions
Handing over awards for good players

What defines a region as "worthy"?

Furthermore, what makes fascism something to be against, if the other extreme (the extreme-left) is tolerated?

[Fauxia]

1)When someone takes stuff from /pol/ he shouldn't wonder why he is deemed a fascist.

2) whatboutism.

3)Well, i'd like to define the SC as the following:
Saving worthy regions
Handing over awards for good players

What defines a region as "worthy"?

Furthermore, what makes fascism something to be against, if the other extreme (the extreme-left) is tolerated?

Because fascism is incredibly authoritarian by definition. Also, please don’t turn this into a general debate