[PASSED] Liberate Iran

[Frisbeeteria]

The Security Council,

Noting that Iran has a treasured history that is important to the international community,

Regretting that the natives were misled by an invasion which ultimately resulted in the region's destruction behind a password,

Observing the similarities between the invasion of Greece, which resulted in Security Council Resolution # 29, and the invasion of Iran:

• August 5/7, 2013: Gharechi (also known as Avalonian Persia) and Persepolis the Great appeared in Iran. Persepolis the Great had been founded that very same day. Gharechi released a dispatch that day explaining their "intentions" for moving to Iran. This group antagonized the regional community while making false accusations against the native delegate.
  
• December 8 2014: Baharestan took the delegacy with the support of Gharechi and Persepolis the Great and promptly ejected and banned natives. Natives were encouraged by Baharestan, Gharechi et al. to leave Iran for a backwater region named Shahish Empire that was controlled by Persian Empire (which directed the occupation of Greece). The reason given for this policy - to conserve regional influence - was plainly false. Presumably, the real intent of the policy was to mislead natives from the region to accelerate its abandonment and annihilation.
  
• May - August 2014: Persepolis the Great replaces Avalonian Persia as delegate, who replaced Baharestan.
  
• August 15, 2014: Persepolis the Great alters the password of the region.
  
• September 8, 2014: Twenty four days later, Persepolis the Great resigns from the World Assembly.

Recognizing that a native at the time, Iramerica, attempted to save the region with a liberation proposal on May 12 2014, though the nation was temporarily removed from the World Assembly for plagiarizing Security Council Resolution # 29, “Liberate Greece,” putting the community at a further disadvantage,

Believing that this honored council has failed the community of Iran and ought to do everything in its power to promote security, growth and stability in the region to correct this wrong,

Encouraging interested parties to ensure the security of the region upon the passing of this resolution so that a community can develop,

Hereby Liberates Iran.

[The First German Order]

"NAY, NAY, NAY!"
In all seriousness it actually does look decent.

[Feux]

"NAY, NAY, NAY!"
In all seriousness it actually does look decent.

Thanks, comrade. I still feel like it needs a thing or two. I really want any info old natives can provide to help the draft.

[Jar Wattinree]

It looks solid enough.

[Lenlyvit]

Out of sheer curiosity, why would you try to liberate a region that was passworded 3 years ago and is safe from raider occupation? With that password raiders cannot enter the region to destroy it, and without a founder the region is vulnerable. All this will do is cause the region and community to be attacked over and over again by raider orgs, causing more harm than the password itself. I, as a retired defender, am strongly against this repeal.

Edit: Any defender will tell you that that password is the best thing to protect the native community, so I'd just give up. Sorry to be so harsh.

[Fauxia]

Out of sheer curiosity, why would you try to liberate a region that was passworded 3 years ago and is safe from raider occupation? With that password raiders cannot enter the region to destroy it, and without a founder the region is vulnerable. All this will do is cause the region and community to be attacked over and over again by raider orgs, causing more harm than the password itself. I, as a retired defender, am strongly against this repeal.

Edit: Any defender will tell you that that password is the best thing to protect the native community, so I'd just give up. Sorry to be so harsh.

The “natives” are raiders

[Feux]

Out of sheer curiosity, why would you try to liberate a region that was passworded 3 years ago and is safe from raider occupation? With that password raiders cannot enter the region to destroy it, and without a founder the region is vulnerable. All this will do is cause the region and community to be attacked over and over again by raider orgs, causing more harm than the password itself. I, as a retired defender, am strongly against this repeal.

Locking a "community" that has not posted on the RMB for more than three years behind an invader placed password in the name of "safety" is dooming the region and the community. There are also natives outside the region who cannot return because they do not know the password. It is better to take a risk to let the community get back to developing than to keep it locked behind a password until it dies. Real natives and people with interest can return, build their community, and from there decide the best course of action to keep themselves safe, even a refound with defender help if they wanted. The Security Council should provide them that chance. It has already failed to prevent the region from becoming inactive due to subversion.

Edit: Any defender will tell you that that password is the best thing to protect the native community, so I'd just give up. Sorry to be so harsh.

This idea was suggested by one of the most well-known defenders.

[Lenlyvit]

Out of sheer curiosity, why would you try to liberate a region that was passworded 3 years ago and is safe from raider occupation? With that password raiders cannot enter the region to destroy it, and without a founder the region is vulnerable. All this will do is cause the region and community to be attacked over and over again by raider orgs, causing more harm than the password itself. I, as a retired defender, am strongly against this repeal.

Locking a "community" that has not posted on the RMB for more than three years behind an invader placed password in the name of "safety" is dooming the region and the community. There are also natives outside the region who cannot return because they do not know the password. It is better to take a risk to let the community get back to developing than to keep it locked behind a password until it dies. Real natives and people with interest can return, build their community, and from there decide the best course of action to keep themselves safe, even a refound with defender help if they wanted. The Security Council should provide them that chance. It has already failed to prevent the region from becoming inactive due to subversion.

Out of sheer curiosity, why would you try to liberate a region that was passworded 3 years ago and is safe from raider occupation? With that password raiders cannot enter the region to destroy it, and without a founder the region is vulnerable. All this will do is cause the region and community to be attacked over and over again by raider orgs, causing more harm than the password itself. I, as a retired defender, am strongly against this repeal.

Edit: Any defender will tell you that that password is the best thing to protect the native community, so I'd just give up. Sorry to be so harsh.

I've had time to talk to some others, and have some things explained to me as well as investigate myself. I apologize for my quick response, I acted before thinking. While there was definitely some sketchyness there, I'm just afraid that opening up Iran will cause it to be immediately invaded. How many natives are left around, out of curiosity?

[Feux]

Due to the several years that have passed, I have only been able to locate a handful of original natives.

[Unibot III]

It's totally understandable that Lenlyvit is asking whether this is legitimate, that's one of the major challenges of the Persian griefing method: it's designed to look somewhat legitimate from the outside. That was what was so vexing with the Greek occupation - and this Iranian occupation appears to be using the exact same tactic.

Here's my notes covering the Iran occupation.

COLES NOTES VERSION --> Puppet nations created as shortly as that very same day arrived in Iran and began antagonizing the native community leaders, soon taking the delegacy, and ejecting everyone who disagreed with them. Then they encouraged innocent natives to move to a Persian-controlled puppet dumb to "do what's best for Iran" (using a very disingenuous description of how Regional Influence works). Within a year, the invaders had cleared most of the region of its native WA nations and changed the password. Then they basically CTE'd and left the region to rot undisturbed for three years.

A native who did reach out, hoping to liberate Iran in 2014 was actually dismissed. He got in trouble for having submitted a proposal that went afoul of the rules. Nobody, sadly, followed up on his case.

There's a lot of hard truths about the Iran case:

- These kinds of raids are slow for defenders to notice and diagnose. It's not the kind of raid we're watching out for. And when we do see signs of it, it can take a lot of time for us to take it credibly. That's the problem with the Persian method. It's patient and cruel. It's the hardest method to detect when you're looking for more conventional smash-and-grab invasions.
- SCers, including myself, should be doing more follow-up with authors who submit Liberations. We should be checking to see if there is actually a story to it. A lot of newbie WA Liberations are just genuine misunderstandings of what the Liberation category is for - but in this case, he was right to reach out to the SC. We were the only people who could have helped Iran by that point.
- The region has been basically dismanted from the top-down and it's been three years. There's probably no old natives left really. It's too late for them, I'm afraid - but a WA Liberation can end the occupation and give "Iran" a future that it won't have under Persian occupation. Greece has been able to start fresh and I believe Iran will be able to. Iranian NSers shouldn't have to live with Iran being a Persian tombstone.

I'm thrilled someone has followed up on this and I'm looking forward to voting FOR - and seeing a free Iran. With the RL Iranian revolution ongoing, it feels very appropriately timed. Well done, Feux. I'll have some advice on the text here sometime soon. But thank you again for taking up this challenge.

[Queen Yuno]

That RMB hasn't been posted in at least 3 years 68 days ago.
The "residents" are nothing but a Puppet Script holder, hoarding a good region name.

Even if this region "gets raided", it'll be more activity than three years of nothingness. But with proper gameplay planning, that region won't necessarily get raided, it could also be built into a successful region by Iran-enthusiasts. You wouldn't know the outcome without giving it a chance, but it's better than leaving the region locked up for another decade of zero RMB posts. And probably only 1 person with 18 puppets in there.

I think I'd support this Liberation.

[Vando0sa]

I will say yes i'm likely gunna try and raid this region after it's liberated.. But passwords lead to slow death of regions. Japan was in a similar situation and seems to be doing well now after finally removing the password even with a few raids to the face.

Better to be a raided region than a dead one.. I should poke my delegates to approve this one..

[La Navasse]

I don't quite believe that one or two natives is sufficient enough for a Liberation of Iran - otherwise, we should have had a Liberation of The Bee Lands.

EDIT 1: In essence, I don't see "the community of Iran". It's "the empty dead husk" of Iran.

EDIT 2: If you have the belief that the region itself should be saved, not for its community but for its name and potential as a result, then go for it. Otherwise, this Liberation has nothing to stand up on.

[Drop Your Pants]

The last page of their history section is a great blast from the past. Sedge, Hadi, Tupe were all there. So even 8 years ago in was a R/D hotspot. Don't fancy seeing it again. Also, raider puppets with 3+ years influence? No one is going to kick them for a while.

[Feux]

I don't quite believe that one or two natives is sufficient enough for a Liberation of Iran - otherwise, we should have had a Liberation of The Bee Lands.

EDIT 1: In essence, I don't see "the community of Iran". It's "the empty dead husk" of Iran.

EDIT 2: If you have the belief that the region itself should be saved, not for its community but for its name and potential as a result, then go for it. Otherwise, this Liberation has nothing to stand up on.

There is no weight behind the "not enough natives" argument. The Security Council's missions is not spreading peace and goodwill "if you have x natives." That is an elitist argument that ignores the little guys.

The last page of their history section is a great blast from the past. Sedge, Hadi, Tupe were all there. So even 8 years ago in was a R/D hotspot. Don't fancy seeing it again. Also, raider puppets with 3+ years influence? No one is going to kick them for a while.

We have all the time in the world.

[Drop Your Pants]

We have all the time in the world.

So if it passes you'll move your WA to the region to kick all the raider puppets? Or will you make an excuse?

[Feux]

We have all the time in the world.

So if it passes you'll move your WA to the region to kick all the raider puppets? Or will you make an excuse?

An excuse for something I never said I would do? No need, older fart.

My WA goes were Pacifica needs it.

[La Navasse]

I don't quite believe that one or two natives is sufficient enough for a Liberation of Iran - otherwise, we should have had a Liberation of The Bee Lands.

EDIT 1: In essence, I don't see "the community of Iran". It's "the empty dead husk" of Iran.

EDIT 2: If you have the belief that the region itself should be saved, not for its community but for its name and potential as a result, then go for it. Otherwise, this Liberation has nothing to stand up on.

There is no weight behind the "not enough natives" argument. The Security Council's missions is not spreading peace and goodwill "if you have x natives." That is an elitist argument that ignores the little guys.

The last page of their history section is a great blast from the past. Sedge, Hadi, Tupe were all there. So even 8 years ago in was a R/D hotspot. Don't fancy seeing it again. Also, raider puppets with 3+ years influence? No one is going to kick them for a while.

We have all the time in the world.

There is no use trying to liberate a dead region named after a controversial country that has literally been locked down for the past three years. There's almost no one to liberate, and practically every contraindication not to. I'm not making the elitist argument - how practical is this Liberation to the natives in the first place, and do they actually have potential to completely rebuild the region?

EDIT: For political correctness.

[Liagolas]

Liberate Iran

Noting Iran has a treasured history that is important to the international community, however, the natives were subverted and the region was closed off by a password,

Understanding a native at the time, Iramerica, attempted to save the region from an invasion with a liberation proposal on May 12 2014, but the author was temporarily removed from the World Assembly for plagiarizing Security Council proposal # 29, “Liberate Greece,” putting the community at a further disadvantage,

Believing this honored council has failed the community of Iran and should do everything in its power to promote growth, stability, and security in the region to correct this mistake,

Bringing to the attention of the international community the risks involved with liberating a region for a particular purpose – a lesson learned by Security Council proposal # 132, “Liberate Nazi Europe,”

Therefore encouraging regions and defender organizations to ensure the security of the region upon the passing of this resolution so that a community can develop,

Hereby Liberates Iran.

It still needs a few things. I have sent telegrams to old Iran natives and have been waiting to hear back for more information. If there is anything you can provide to make the draft better, post below. If you are here to say "NAY NAY NAY," get ready to be ignored. Players being constructive get my attention. I'll probably wait to see if any old natives hit me back before submitting. If you are really helpful, I have no problem listing co-authors. Thanks, guys.

"Invasions!" The Mouth of the Dominion shakes its head sadly. "Tragic, awful things. Liagolas was invaded* once, and it is the will of the Dominion that such unjust subjugation be thwarted whenever possible. Thus, it is the offering of the Dominion to provide some textual edits that it believes will improve the draft. These edits include matters of word choice, phrasing, and grammar, as well as one clause it suggests to be added. The edits are in red, and a copy of the Dominion's version is provided in addition to the draft with edits itself."

Noting Iran has a treasured history that is important to the international community, however, the natives were subverted and the region was closed off by a password,

Regretting that the natives were subverted by an invasion which closed the region with a password,

Understanding Recognizing that a native at the time, Iramerica, attempted to save the region from an invasion with a liberation proposal on May 12 2014, but though the author was temporarily removed from the World Assembly for plagiarizing Security Council proposal # 29, “Liberate Greece,” putting the community at a further disadvantage,

Believing that this honored council has failed the community of Iran and should do everything in its power to promote growth, stability, and security in the region to correct this mistake,

Asserting that in order to do so, the region must be freed from outside control,

Bringing Acknowledging to the attention of the international community the risks involved with liberating a region for a particular purpose – a lesson learned by Security Council proposal # 132, “Liberate Nazi Europe,” and

Therefore encouraging regions and defender organizations to ensure the security of the region upon the passing passage of this resolution so that a community can develop,

Hereby Liberates Iran.

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Noting [region]Iran[/region] has a treasured history that is important to the international community,

Regretting that the natives were subverted by an invasion which closed the region with a password,

Recognizing that a native at the time, [nation]Iramerica[/nation], attempted to save the region from an invasion with a liberation proposal on May 12 2014, though the author was temporarily removed from the World Assembly for plagiarizing Security Council proposal # 29, “Liberate Greece,” putting the community at a further disadvantage,

Believing that this honored council has failed the community of Iran and should do everything in its power to promote growth, stability, and security in the region to correct this mistake,

Asserting that in order to do so, the region must be freed from outside control,

Acknowledging the risks involved with liberating a region for a particular purpose – a lesson learned by Security Council proposal # 132, “Liberate Nazi Europe,”  and

Therefore encouraging regions and defender organizations to ensure the security of the region upon the passage of this resolution so that a community can develop,

Hereby Liberates [region]Iran[/region].

The "invasion" in reference is a purely IC, lore thing; just me being a bit silly.

[The Marsupial Illuminati]

Security Council proposal # 29, “Liberate Greece,”

Should be Resolution, not proposal.

Security Council proposal # 132, “Liberate Nazi Europe,”

Change to:

Security Council Resolution # 109, “Liberate NAZI EUROPE,”

[Feux]

Security Council proposal # 29, “Liberate Greece,”

Should be Resolution, not proposal.

Security Council proposal # 132, “Liberate Nazi Europe,”

Change to:

Security Council Resolution # 109, “Liberate NAZI EUROPE,”

These are excellent grabs.

Thank you.

[Feux]

Liberate Iran

Noting Iran has a treasured history that is important to the international community, however, the natives were subverted and the region was closed off by a password,

Understanding a native at the time, Iramerica, attempted to save the region from an invasion with a liberation proposal on May 12 2014, but the author was temporarily removed from the World Assembly for plagiarizing Security Council proposal # 29, “Liberate Greece,” putting the community at a further disadvantage,

Believing this honored council has failed the community of Iran and should do everything in its power to promote growth, stability, and security in the region to correct this mistake,

Bringing to the attention of the international community the risks involved with liberating a region for a particular purpose – a lesson learned by Security Council proposal # 132, “Liberate Nazi Europe,”

Therefore encouraging regions and defender organizations to ensure the security of the region upon the passing of this resolution so that a community can develop,

Hereby Liberates Iran.

It still needs a few things. I have sent telegrams to old Iran natives and have been waiting to hear back for more information. If there is anything you can provide to make the draft better, post below. If you are here to say "NAY NAY NAY," get ready to be ignored. Players being constructive get my attention. I'll probably wait to see if any old natives hit me back before submitting. If you are really helpful, I have no problem listing co-authors. Thanks, guys.

"Invasions!" The Mouth of the Dominion shakes its head sadly. "Tragic, awful things. Liagolas was invaded* once, and it is the will of the Dominion that such unjust subjugation be thwarted whenever possible. Thus, it is the offering of the Dominion to provide some textual edits that it believes will improve the draft. These edits include matters of word choice, phrasing, and grammar, as well as one clause it suggests to be added. The edits are in red, and a copy of the Dominion's version is provided in addition to the draft with edits itself."

Noting Iran has a treasured history that is important to the international community, however, the natives were subverted and the region was closed off by a password,

Regretting that the natives were subverted by an invasion which closed the region with a password,

Understanding Recognizing that a native at the time, Iramerica, attempted to save the region from an invasion with a liberation proposal on May 12 2014, but though the author was temporarily removed from the World Assembly for plagiarizing Security Council proposal # 29, “Liberate Greece,” putting the community at a further disadvantage,

Believing that this honored council has failed the community of Iran and should do everything in its power to promote growth, stability, and security in the region to correct this mistake,

Asserting that in order to do so, the region must be freed from outside control,

Bringing Acknowledging to the attention of the international community the risks involved with liberating a region for a particular purpose – a lesson learned by Security Council proposal # 132, “Liberate Nazi Europe,” and

Therefore encouraging regions and defender organizations to ensure the security of the region upon the passing passage of this resolution so that a community can develop,

Hereby Liberates Iran.

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Noting [region]Iran[/region] has a treasured history that is important to the international community,

Regretting that the natives were subverted by an invasion which closed the region with a password,

Recognizing that a native at the time, [nation]Iramerica[/nation], attempted to save the region from an invasion with a liberation proposal on May 12 2014, though the author was temporarily removed from the World Assembly for plagiarizing Security Council proposal # 29, “Liberate Greece,” putting the community at a further disadvantage,

Believing that this honored council has failed the community of Iran and should do everything in its power to promote growth, stability, and security in the region to correct this mistake,

Asserting that in order to do so, the region must be freed from outside control,

Acknowledging the risks involved with liberating a region for a particular purpose – a lesson learned by Security Council proposal # 132, “Liberate Nazi Europe,”  and

Therefore encouraging regions and defender organizations to ensure the security of the region upon the passage of this resolution so that a community can develop,

Hereby Liberates [region]Iran[/region].

The "invasion" in reference is a purely IC, lore thing; just me being a bit silly.

These are also great. Give me some time to make some changes, comrade.

[La Navasse]

I suggest you add the clause "Observing the similarities between the invasion of Greece, which resulted in Security Council Resolution #29, and the invasion of Iran, and how both regions were likely invaded by the same force and with the same destructive technique;" after your "Noting" clause, which helps clarify why the older proposal to Liberate Iran plagiarized SCR #29 and the precedent this sort of slow invasion has had on invoking a SC Liberation.

[Drop Your Pants]

My WA goes were Pacifica needs it.

But it's a UCR, i'm surprised you care

[Feux]

My WA goes were Pacifica needs it.

But it's a UCR, i'm surprised you care

I missed your smartass. Lol.