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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:37 pm

OOC: Added a cluster bomb clause, and made the land mine one more specific
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Postby Willania Imperium » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:38 pm

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It doesn't matter if it's legal or not. I don't see it as something worthy for the SC to step in and declare one side is behaving badly and condemning them. I personally think that RP can be as easy as pulling it from one's ass and claiming it's real, even if it's not.

Atkemri recognizes it as an official RP


You can easily do that. Does anyone else of importance recognize it?

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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:38 pm

Will someone in the war give feedback?
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:39 pm

Willania Imperium wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Atkemri recognizes it as an official RP


You can easily do that. Does anyone else of importance recognize it?

Well, the SC recognixes all R&I rp's as official so 8)
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Postby Autarchist Hinodia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:41 pm

I’m one of the nations in the war against Atkemri. While I was one of the ones to point out their numerous war crimes and initially supported this condemnation, it’s beginning to seem more than a little unimportant to the rest of the game’s players in hindsight...
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:42 pm

Autarchist Hinodia wrote:I’m one of the nations in the war against Atkemri. While I was one of the ones to point out their numerous war crimes and initially supported this condemnation, it’s beginning to seem more than a little unimportant to the rest of the game’s players in hindsight...

However, Condemnations will stop (meybe) further illegal actions by Atkemri.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:43 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
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You can easily do that. Does anyone else of importance recognize it?

Well, the SC recognixes all R&I rp's as official so 8)


That's standard. Anyone else recognizes this?

Autarchist Hinodia wrote:I’m one of the nations in the war against Atkemri. While I was one of the ones to point out their numerous war crimes and initially supported this condemnation, it’s beginning to seem more than a little unimportant to the rest of the game’s players in hindsight...


Well, considering that it doesn't really affect much in the NS community, I would say your hindsight is quite appropriate.

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Autarchist Hinodia wrote:I’m one of the nations in the war against Atkemri. While I was one of the ones to point out their numerous war crimes and initially supported this condemnation, it’s beginning to seem more than a little unimportant to the rest of the game’s players in hindsight...

However, Condemnations will stop (meybe) further illegal actions by Atkemri.


Do you really think it has any effect? It's like giving someone a badge. It has nothing.

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Postby Autarchist Hinodia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:45 pm

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Autarchist Hinodia wrote:I’m one of the nations in the war against Atkemri. While I was one of the ones to point out their numerous war crimes and initially supported this condemnation, it’s beginning to seem more than a little unimportant to the rest of the game’s players in hindsight...

However, Condemnations will stop (meybe) further illegal actions by Atkemri.

They can’t really commit many more illegal actions when their nation is in total collapse. Not to mention neither condemnations nor commendations do much. It’s like giving a kid a gold star or a dunce hat. It draws attention to him, but little else.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:46 pm

Autarchist Hinodia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:However, Condemnations will stop (meybe) further illegal actions by Atkemri.

They can’t really commit many more illegal actions when their nation is in total collapse. Not to mention neither condemnations nor commendations do much. It’s like giving a kid a gold star or a dunce hat. It draws attention to him, but little else.

That's why it's here
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Postby Willania Imperium » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:46 pm

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Autarchist Hinodia wrote:They can’t really commit many more illegal actions when their nation is in total collapse. Not to mention neither condemnations nor commendations do much. It’s like giving a kid a gold star or a dunce hat. It draws attention to him, but little else.

That's why it's here


But you do realize it has little to no effect, right? It won't do anything to stop them.

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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:08 pm

Willania Imperium wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:That's why it's here


But you do realize it has little to no effect, right? It won't do anything to stop them.

That's not even my goal. It's just to recognize his bad choices.
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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:19 pm

Commendations and condemnations are one of the highest honors in NationStates. Condemnations are a reward for players who are great at being evil IC, and RP condemnations are only given to the best role-players. Atkemri is less than a year old, and their RP does not seem to be above-average or extraordinary. Their RP does not merit a condemnation.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:42 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
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But you do realize it has little to no effect, right? It won't do anything to stop them.

That's not even my goal. It's just to recognize his bad choices.


But why recognize them? They don't seem to be truly important to realize.

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:30 am

I'll submit soon
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Aureumterra wrote:I'll submit soon

OOC: Please - not yet! Proposals should be simmering in the forum for a few weeks before being submitted.
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Aureumterra wrote:I'll submit soon


This proposal is not even ready to be considered for submission. You still have many problems left in it.

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Postby Kenmoria » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:16 am

The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:Commendations and condemnations are one of the highest honors in NationStates. Condemnations are a reward for players who are great at being evil IC, and RP condemnations are only given to the best role-players. Atkemri is less than a year old, and their RP does not seem to be above-average or extraordinary. Their RP does not merit a condemnation.

^this. Condemnations are rewards for being good at raiding, or being extremely good at role playing as an evil nation. They are not badges awarded to average role players who have been moderately evil. Do not submit this.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:17 am

Willania Imperium wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:I'll submit soon


This proposal is not even ready to be considered for submission. You still have many problems left in it.

Like what?
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:20 am

Aureumterra wrote:Like what?

The main problem is that you've had this thread open for less than 24 hours, and on a weekend. Most players haven't even seen this thread, much less had the time to absorb it, consider the consequences, and comment on improvements.

Patience. Writing resolutions is a marathon, not a sprint.

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Frisbeeteria wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Like what?

The main problem is that you've had this thread open for less than 24 hours, and on a weekend. Most players haven't even seen this thread, much less had the time to absorb it, consider the consequences, and comment on improvements.

Patience. Writing resolutions is a marathon, not a sprint.

Ok, i’ll leave it up for a few weeks
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Postby Drasnia » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:00 pm

I concur with everything Marsupial said. Unless we keep the standard for RP condemns high, any Joe Schmoe could "earn" a condemn.
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Postby Autumns » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:03 pm

Willania Imperium wrote:Considering this is from an RP that I doubt holds any real value, I’m against this completely.

My opinion exactly.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:22 am

I will wait a few weeks before submitting
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Postby Feux » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:23 pm

Aureumterra wrote:I will wait a few weeks before submitting

Here is a good example of someone getting condemned for roleplaying. Reviewing it and others like it may help you make edits to your draft.
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Postby The First German Order » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:16 am

Aureumterra wrote:OOC: No, you can condemn nations

So you're condemning someone for roleplay? Also I'm fairly sure you only condemn regions, but okay.
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