[DEFEATED] Commend Auralia

[Fauxia]

Link?

I publicly apologized for attempting to commend myself about two and a half years ago.

Thank you

[Consular]

Question: Does the nation Auralia still have a policy of outright noncompliance with certain WA laws?

[Sciongrad]

Question: Does the nation Auralia still have a policy of outright noncompliance with certain WA laws?

GR has a similar policy and we commended him. Knoot has a similar, and much more extreme, policy and you haven't brought up this up in his commend thread.

[Liberal Rick]

Lmao Auralia tried to self-commend FOUR years ago? Who fucking cares.

Raiders and defenders and Parhe or anyone who owns more than 1000 nations thank Auralia for creating this: https://auralia.github.io/nslogin-web/build/


OP, keep working on this draft. Don't get discouraged. I'm bored sitting for weeks without anything to vote on in the Security Council or GA and I can't raid because I'm WA locked.

Wolfram and Hart has one that doesn't require downloading, but anyway I'm against.
You offered four four resolutions for the resolutions in general, but only two for the non-repeals. You need consistency. Two isn't enough anyway.
And I think you should delete the campaign part, it makes me cringe.
And fix "to these nationstates". It doesn't make sense. Please clarify or change it.
Lastly, Disapproved is spelled wrongly.

[Wrapper]

Dissapproving of the Auralian attempt to self-commend, an unfortunate lapse in the judgement of the typically upright Auralian delegation, attempts for which they have apologized,

Believing, however, that one mistake ought not to drown out the achievements of one of this Assembly's most prolific authors,

Hmmmmmm very very interesting. Tell you what, UM, I will agree that the time has come, and that Auralia has done more than enough in the GA to be commended, so I will support and vote for this commendation, but only if you keep these lines relatively intact.

[The New California Republic]

Dissapproving of the Auralian attempt to self-commend, an unfortunate lapse in the judgement of the typically upright Auralian delegation, attempts for which they have apologized,

Believing, however, that one mistake ought not to drown out the achievements of one of this Assembly's most prolific authors,

Hmmmmmm very very interesting. Tell you what, UM, I will agree that the time has come, and that Auralia has done more than enough in the GA to be commended, so I will support and vote for this commendation, but only if you keep these lines relatively intact.

OOC: I am glad that UM has decided to include them, as it had been suggested that a more up-front approach would perhaps sway people (including me) who were skeptical. The previous draft had made only an obscure reference to it, without saying exactly what mistake was being referred to. The new draft is much better, as it is much more honest, and gives people a more informed choice when deciding whether to vote for or against.

[Consular]

Question: Does the nation Auralia still have a policy of outright noncompliance with certain WA laws?

GR has a similar policy and we commended him. Knoot has a similar, and much more extreme, policy and you haven't brought up this up in his commend thread.

Irrelevant. It remains my policy that the Security Council should not commend a nation which thinks it has the right to pick and choose which General Assembly laws it wants to follow. IC it makes the nation uncommendable in my mind, and OOC it demonstrates rather poor etiquette.

I'm also always going to be opposed for very political reasons, namely that I'm not going to support commending someone who has spent their career trying very hard to impose an anti secular agenda upon the world.

[Fauxia]

GR has a similar policy and we commended him. Knoot has a similar, and much more extreme, policy and you haven't brought up this up in his commend thread.

Irrelevant. It remains my policy that the Security Council should not commend a nation which thinks it has the right to pick and choose which General Assembly laws it wants to follow. IC it makes the nation uncommendable in my mind, and OOC it demonstrates rather poor etiquette.

I'm also always going to be opposed for very political reasons, namely that I'm not going to support commending someone who has spent their career trying very hard to impose an anti secular agenda upon the world.

If the first part is true, would you support a repeal of Glen’s commendation on those grounds? And oppose Knoot’s?

[Lenlyvit]

Auralia's nation login script for mobile users is a godsend, and I don't think one bad mistake should stop someone who's accomplished so much for others from being commended. Ill support this when it gets to vote.

[Aclion]

GR has a similar policy and we commended him. Knoot has a similar, and much more extreme, policy and you haven't brought up this up in his commend thread.

Irrelevant. It remains my policy that the Security Council should not commend a nation which thinks it has the right to pick and choose which General Assembly laws it wants to follow. IC it makes the nation uncommendable in my mind, and OOC it demonstrates rather poor etiquette.

I'm also always going to be opposed for very political reasons, namely that I'm not going to support commending someone who has spent their career trying very hard to impose an anti secular agenda upon the world.

Well then you're either opposed to all commendations or you're picking and choosing when to apply that standard. It's impossible to comply with all the GARs, as some have disjointed mandates. It sounds to me like your opposed to the commendation because you dislike Auralia's politics. That's fine, but just own up to it instead of looking for excuses.

[United Massachusetts]

I've updated the draft.

[Shaqtan Islands]

I approve of the most recent unbiased draft.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Auralia's noncompliance thing is annoying and counter to the purpose of the GA etc, and the self commendation thing was an absolute mess, but I don't know how he can be denied a commendation after all the work he's put into the GA/his tools. Unless there is some recent debacle that he has kept under wraps, I'd be surprised if this doesn't pass.

[Fauxia]

Auralia's noncompliance thing is annoying and counter to the purpose of the GA etc, and the self commendation thing was an absolute mess, but I don't know how he can be denied a commendation after all the work he's put into the GA/his tools. Unless there is some recent debacle that he has kept under wraps, I'd be surprised if this doesn't pass.

That seems overly optimistic

[Wallenburg]

Sorry, but I can't vote for this. If this gets passed, there are no standards for commendation.

[Fauxia]

Sorry, but I can't vote for this. If this gets passed, there are no standards for commendation.

Yes there will be. It will be that you can make a pretty big mistake and still be commended. Except that isn’t new seeing as how we have de facto commended certain raiders despite former use of the predator.

[United Massachusetts]

bump

[Attempted Socialism]

bump

OOC: You mention Auralias attempt at self-commending, but not their repeated and flagrant non-compliance with (And violation of) human rights resolutions. Non-compliance may not in itself be enough for a condemnation, but IMO it ought to make nations ineligible for commendations.
If you think Auralia is deserving of a commendation despite their many wrongdoings, why not mention the non-compliance and human rights violation alongside the self-recommendation attempt, and let the voters decide?

(And I know Auralia has some BS argument about a non-existent "moral law"; even if it existed, WA law would win in case of contradiction, as WA law is above both national and "moral" laws.)

[Fauxia]

bump

OOC: You mention Auralias attempt at self-commending, but not their repeated and flagrant non-compliance with (And violation of) human rights resolutions. Non-compliance may not in itself be enough for a condemnation, but IMO it ought to make nations ineligible for commendations.
If you think Auralia is deserving of a commendation despite their many wrongdoings, why not mention the non-compliance and human rights violation alongside the self-recommendation attempt, and let the voters decide?

(And I know Auralia has some BS argument about a non-existent "moral law"; even if it existed, WA law would win in case of contradiction, as WA law is above both national and "moral" laws.)

Glen-Rhodes has, according to Scion, a policy of non-compliance. It isn’t mentioned in his commendation

[Attempted Socialism]

OOC: You mention Auralias attempt at self-commending, but not their repeated and flagrant non-compliance with (And violation of) human rights resolutions. Non-compliance may not in itself be enough for a condemnation, but IMO it ought to make nations ineligible for commendations.
If you think Auralia is deserving of a commendation despite their many wrongdoings, why not mention the non-compliance and human rights violation alongside the self-recommendation attempt, and let the voters decide?

(And I know Auralia has some BS argument about a non-existent "moral law"; even if it existed, WA law would win in case of contradiction, as WA law is above both national and "moral" laws.)

Glen-Rhodes has, according to Scion, a policy of non-compliance. It isn’t mentioned in his commendation

OOC: Which, IMO, would be an argument for repealing that commendation*. However, it's not a good argument to begin with. "Someone else did something wrong as well!" is an argument I left behind in elementary school.
If UM believes Auralia deserves a commendation despite the non-compliance, why not acknowledge it and be confident that the other arguments outweigh this one?

*If someone else put in the effort to make a repeal, I would likely vote for a repeal on those grounds.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Glen-Rhodes has, according to Scion, a policy of non-compliance. It isn’t mentioned in his commendation

OOC: Which, IMO, would be an argument for repealing that commendation*. However, it's not a good argument to begin with. "Someone else did something wrong as well!" is an argument I left behind in elementary school.
If UM believes Auralia deserves a commendation despite the non-compliance, why not acknowledge it and be confident that the other arguments outweigh this one?

*If someone else put in the effort to make a repeal, I would likely vote for a repeal on those grounds.

I also just seems a poor reason to oppose a commendation. First, when Auralia and I argue for recognizing the existence of "non-compliance," we're not saying don't follow WA law. We're advocating for more realism in the GA. Second, and more importantly, it's a position adopted by GenSec and is now an official part of the GA rules case law. Whatever resolutions Auralia roleplays as being in noncompliance with, is really separate from this. Despite the SC rules, we're all talking about his accomplishments as a player. Can you not be a good player if you've roleplayed something disagreeable before?

[United Massachusetts]

bump. I plan on submitting this in the coming days.

[Prydania]

Against.

[Cute Puppies]

"You recognize how im-paw-per zis is?!" barks the short-tempered ambassador, Mr. Fluffers. "Ignoring ze gross, gross act of self-commendation with deceptive and sleezy tactics zat took place a couple years ago, Auralia has openly protested and gone against a number of GA resolutions. Yet even so, some around here 'ave been saying 'zis man has done so much for us zat his contributions outweigh his non-compliance' or 'well, nobody's perfect.' Seriously?!" Mr. Fluffers, in an agitated state, reaches for his vodka, takes a couple sips, and continues on. "I believe I speak for many when I say zis: we don't expect ze commended to be perfect. But ze commended are an example - a model of a good WA contributor that all other member nations should strive to be. We should expect zat all members follow ze rules and comply with all resolutions put out by the WA, let alone ze nations we choose to commend! Ze State of Cute Puppies is against zis commendation and will do everything in its power to prevent its passage!"

[The Sygian]

The man deserves it.