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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:56 am

Isn't this the second time he has submitted the same illegal proposal? doesn't that warrant expulsion from the WA?

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Postby Wrapper » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:54 am

No, we don't eject for illegal proposals anymore, unless it's plagiarism, spamming the queue or some other OSRS violation. Besides, it's not the same proposal; the first submission violated R1, the second one R4.

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Postby Carmine » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:11 am

This is ridiculous. The only thing “damaging your reputation” is your own posts and behavior. No libel necessary.

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Postby Xmara » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:16 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:What do you guys think of the proposed resolution below?:

A resolution to condemn The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria for the following reasons is hereby resolved:

A: The The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria has made its mission to impede the pro life work of The Federation of Pro-Life 2017.

B: The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria has done this by spreading lies and libelous stories about The Federation of Pro Life 2017.

C: The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria have abuse their power and respect in the community to degrade the standing of The Federation of Pro Life 2017, by spreading libelous story's, Frisbeeteria has abused his power as a respected member of the community. Frisbeeteria has influence, respect, and standing in the community, which he is using to degrade the standing of The Federation of Pro Life 2017, via spreading libelous story's.

Therefore, The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria is hereby condemned.

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1. Where is your proof? These are baseless accusations unless you can provide proof that Frisbeeteria slandered you.

2. The only purpose of this condemnation is because someone said something you didn’t like about you. You’re blowing this way out of proportion.

3. We all have said this a thousand times: THE PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM IS TO SUBMIT DRAFTS AND GET FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE, NOT TO ADVERTISE YOUR ALREADY-SUBMITTED PROPOSAL. This is like asking a tutor what you need to change to improve a school essay despite already turning it into the teacher.
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Postby Serrus » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:44 pm

Xmara wrote: This is like asking a tutor what you need to change to improve a school essay despite already turning it into the teacher.

Although I have seen something like that before.
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Postby Pro Life-2017 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:59 pm

Xmara wrote:
Pro Life-2017 wrote:What do you guys think of the proposed resolution below?:

A resolution to condemn The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria for the following reasons is hereby resolved:

A: The The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria has made its mission to impede the pro life work of The Federation of Pro-Life 2017.

B: The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria has done this by spreading lies and libelous stories about The Federation of Pro Life 2017.

C: The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria have abuse their power and respect in the community to degrade the standing of The Federation of Pro Life 2017, by spreading libelous story's, Frisbeeteria has abused his power as a respected member of the community. Frisbeeteria has influence, respect, and standing in the community, which he is using to degrade the standing of The Federation of Pro Life 2017, via spreading libelous story's.

Therefore, The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria is hereby condemned.

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Or here is the link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1513126718


1. Where is your proof? These are baseless accusations unless you can provide proof that Frisbeeteria slandered you.

2. The only purpose of this condemnation is because someone said something you didn’t like about you. You’re blowing this way out of proportion.

3. We all have said this a thousand times: THE PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM IS TO SUBMIT DRAFTS AND GET FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE, NOT TO ADVERTISE YOUR ALREADY-SUBMITTED PROPOSAL. This is like asking a tutor what you need to change to improve a school essay despite already turning it into the teacher.


Here is what Frisbeeteria said about me:

"Folks, the OP is a hit-and-run poster who doesn't return to these 'drafting' threads. There's no point in detailing the failures of this or any of their proposals, as they aren't reading your comments. You might was well stop wasting everyone's time by responding."

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Postby Willania Imperium » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:03 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:
Xmara wrote:
1. Where is your proof? These are baseless accusations unless you can provide proof that Frisbeeteria slandered you.

2. The only purpose of this condemnation is because someone said something you didn’t like about you. You’re blowing this way out of proportion.

3. We all have said this a thousand times: THE PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM IS TO SUBMIT DRAFTS AND GET FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE, NOT TO ADVERTISE YOUR ALREADY-SUBMITTED PROPOSAL. This is like asking a tutor what you need to change to improve a school essay despite already turning it into the teacher.


Here is what Frisbeeteria said about me:

"Folks, the OP is a hit-and-run poster who doesn't return to these 'drafting' threads. There's no point in detailing the failures of this or any of their proposals, as they aren't reading your comments. You might was well stop wasting everyone's time by responding."


But it seemed to be the truth. You did leave proposals in their infancy without coming back for a long time. Even those you've "revived" have received very little changes made according to our critiques. It's true, plain and simple. There were no lies in them.
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Postby Pro Life-2017 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:06 pm

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Ransium wrote:Moved to the SC. I don’t think this is legal from an R1 and R2c from your third point.

That was my gut reaction on first reading, but that is not necessarily the case. If the author believes that Fris has abused his power as a moderator then the proposal is illegal under Rules 1 and 2c, and the proper way to address such abuse is to file a GHR with all the pertinent evidence. If the author believes that the nation of Frisbeeteria has abused its “power” in some other manor, e.g. pushing a particular agenda while an influential political power in its region or elsewhere, then the proposal would be legal.

So, to the author, please provide some evidence to back up your claim in clause C.



Here is what Frisbeeteria said about me:

"Folks, the OP is a hit-and-run poster who doesn't return to these 'drafting' threads. There's no point in detailing the failures of this or any of their proposals, as they aren't reading your comments. You might was well stop wasting everyone's time by responding."

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Postby Pro Life-2017 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:13 pm

Willania Imperium wrote:
Pro Life-2017 wrote:
Here is what Frisbeeteria said about me:

"Folks, the OP is a hit-and-run poster who doesn't return to these 'drafting' threads. There's no point in detailing the failures of this or any of their proposals, as they aren't reading your comments. You might was well stop wasting everyone's time by responding."


But it seemed to be the truth. You did leave proposals in their infancy without coming back for a long time. Even those you've "revived" have received very little changes made according to our critiques. It's true, plain and simple. There were no lies in them.


I have just make major changes to "Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death" draft, check it out at this link: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=428925 or here is the text:

Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death
A resolution protecting unborn human life from conception to natural death

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

Preamble:

1. This resolution hereby condemns abortion in the strongest terms possible,
2. This resolution hereby protects unborn human life from conception to natural death,

Therefore:

3. This resolution hereby defines human life to start from the moment of conception,
4. This resolution hereby prohibits abortion in all nations,
5. This resolution prohibits abortion in all cases,
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Pro Life-2017 wrote:
Willania Imperium wrote:
But it seemed to be the truth. You did leave proposals in their infancy without coming back for a long time. Even those you've "revived" have received very little changes made according to our critiques. It's true, plain and simple. There were no lies in them.


I have just make major changes to "Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death" draft, check it out at this link: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=428925 or here is the text:

Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death
A resolution protecting unborn human life from conception to natural death

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

Preamble:

1. This resolution hereby condemns abortion in the strongest terms possible,
2. This resolution hereby protects unborn human life from conception to natural death,

Therefore:

2. This resolution hereby defines human life to start from the moment of conception,
3. This resolution hereby prohibits abortion in all nations,
4. This resolution prohibits abortion in all cases,

Major changes of which you did not get from constructive criticism. If you don't listen to other people, why bother?
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The Atlae Isles wrote:
Pro Life-2017 wrote:
I have just make major changes to "Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death" draft, check it out at this link: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=428925 or here is the text:

Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death
A resolution protecting unborn human life from conception to natural death

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

Preamble:

1. This resolution hereby condemns abortion in the strongest terms possible,
2. This resolution hereby protects unborn human life from conception to natural death,

Therefore:

2. This resolution hereby defines human life to start from the moment of conception,
3. This resolution hereby prohibits abortion in all nations,
4. This resolution prohibits abortion in all cases,

Major changes of which you did not get from constructive criticism. If you don't listen to other people, why bother?


OOC: 1. Now, that is not true, many nation brought up concerns that this resolution would outlaw meat eating, and that I did not make a difference between animals and humans, therefore, the changing of the language to specifically include only unborn humans, was due to peer feedback. 2. Also, nations also said that euthanasia clauses were more "insult added to injury" than anything eles and that they should be remove, so I did remove the euthanasia clauses due to peer feedback. So, you are wrong.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:14 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:
Willania Imperium wrote:
But it seemed to be the truth. You did leave proposals in their infancy without coming back for a long time. Even those you've "revived" have received very little changes made according to our critiques. It's true, plain and simple. There were no lies in them.


I have just make major changes to "Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death" draft, check it out at this link: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=428925 or here is the text:

Protecting Unborn Human Life from Conception to Natural Death
A resolution protecting unborn human life from conception to natural death

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

Preamble:

1. This resolution hereby condemns abortion in the strongest terms possible,
2. This resolution hereby protects unborn human life from conception to natural death,

Therefore:

3. This resolution hereby defines human life to start from the moment of conception,
4. This resolution hereby prohibits abortion in all nations,
5. This resolution prohibits abortion in all cases,


But why was Fris's comment libel? It was the truth in accordance with the time when it was posted. I see no attempt to slaughter your image.

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Enough with the threadjack. If you want to discuss your General Assembly proposal go do it in the appropriate GA thread. This is not the place to discuss it nor to try to garner support.

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Postby Xmara » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:41 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:
Xmara wrote:
1. Where is your proof? These are baseless accusations unless you can provide proof that Frisbeeteria slandered you.

2. The only purpose of this condemnation is because someone said something you didn’t like about you. You’re blowing this way out of proportion.

3. We all have said this a thousand times: THE PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM IS TO SUBMIT DRAFTS AND GET FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE, NOT TO ADVERTISE YOUR ALREADY-SUBMITTED PROPOSAL. This is like asking a tutor what you need to change to improve a school essay despite already turning it into the teacher.


Here is what Frisbeeteria said about me:

"Folks, the OP is a hit-and-run poster who doesn't return to these 'drafting' threads. There's no point in detailing the failures of this or any of their proposals, as they aren't reading your comments. You might was well stop wasting everyone's time by responding."


1. That hardly counts as libel. You are blowing this way out of proportion.

2. Frisbeeteria made a valid point. You really don't seem to be listening to any constructive criticism; we have told you multiple times that your proposals are illegal and need heavy revision, yet you continue to submit them anyway without any feedback.

3. This still is not a valid reason for condemnation.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:24 am

Pro Life-2017 wrote:Here is what Frisbeeteria said about me:

"Folks, the OP is a hit-and-run poster who doesn't return to these 'drafting' threads. There's no point in detailing the failures of this or any of their proposals, as they aren't reading your comments. You might was well stop wasting everyone's time by responding."

OOC: And? And you thought that is good enough reason to condemn someone? It really isn't. Your primary motivation is misplaced OOC thirst for revenge.
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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:05 am

We should probably move on from this, but just in case pro-life 2017 doesn't I'm keeping an eye on his profile just to laugh and report any illegal proposals
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Holy crap, apparently I need to visit the Security Council more often. This is gold. Almost as good as when you telegrammed me asking how to sue Fris for libel. I think someone had a draft for an international court of civil claims at one point...

Anyway, support. Everyone needs to relax once in a while, and boisterous laughter is in the top three or four possible ways to do that as far as I'm concerned.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:20 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Anyway, support. Everyone needs to relax once in a while, and boisterous laughter is in the top three or four possible ways to do that as far as I'm concerned.


Do you want to encourage him to create more shit like this? This usn’t even funny! It’s pitiful and idiotic to see something so stupid being actually taken seriously. Supporting it encourage PL17 to not learn from its mistakes and keep making crap!

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Postby Mostly Benevolent Tyranny » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:53 pm

Willania Imperium wrote:
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Anyway, support. Everyone needs to relax once in a while, and boisterous laughter is in the top three or four possible ways to do that as far as I'm concerned.


Do you want to encourage him to create more shit like this? This usn’t even funny! It’s pitiful and idiotic to see something so stupid being actually taken seriously. Supporting it encourage PL17 to not learn from its mistakes and keep making crap!


Generally, people who write crap aren't very inclined to learn. After a certain point, one tends to stop trying.

And on the contrary, this is quite hilarious :p
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Postby Willania Imperium » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:57 pm

Mostly Benevolent Tyranny wrote:
Willania Imperium wrote:
Do you want to encourage him to create more shit like this? This usn’t even funny! It’s pitiful and idiotic to see something so stupid being actually taken seriously. Supporting it encourage PL17 to not learn from its mistakes and keep making crap!


Generally, people who write crap aren't very inclined to learn. After a certain point, one tends to stop trying.

And on the contrary, this is quite hilarious :p


I still don't see the humor in all of this. It's someone constantly making idiotic things and thinking they're so great. Excuse me if I seem so stone-walled and serious, but I have a different concept of humor.

I do see that the author is probably never gonna learn. And I do tire from it. Maybe it's best that we just leave him to his mess.

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Postby The Republic of Christiandom » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:59 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:What do you guys think of the draft resolution below?:

Condemn Frisbeeteria

Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

A resolution to condemn The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria for the following reasons is hereby resolved:

A: The The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria has made its mission to impede the pro life work of The Federation of Pro-Life 2017.

B: The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria has done this by spreading lies and libelous stories about The Federation of Pro Life 2017.

C: The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria have abuse their power and respect in the community to degrade the standing of The Federation of Pro Life 2017, by spreading libelous story's, Frisbeeteria has abused his power as a respected member of the community. Frisbeeteria has influence, respect, and standing in the community, which he is using to degrade the standing of The Federation of Pro Life 2017, via spreading libelous story's.

Therefore, The Dizzy Flying Saucers of Doom of
Frisbeeteria is hereby condemned.

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