[PASSED] Commend Solorni

[Oakrugia]

You have my support, though this could use a bit more help.

[Fauxia]

Jeez, Uni you really sounded off on that.

[Unibot III]

Jeez, Uni you really sounded off on that.

I'm taking the proposal as seriously as the people who wrote it. r3n and McMasterdonia co-wrote a draft like it's an inside joke. Indeed, parts of it are psychedelically untrue. They're betting solely on the considerable power of WALL to pass this turd. It's an insult to both the World Assembly and the Security Council.

My hope is someone is able to block the proposal at the quorum stage where TNP can't save it.

[Jakker]

Jeez, Uni you really sounded off on that.

I'm taking the proposal as seriously as the people who wrote it. r3n and McMasterdonia co-wrote a draft like it's an inside joke. Indeed, parts of it are psychedelically untrue. They're betting solely on the considerable power of WALL to pass this turd. It's an insult to both the World Assembly and the Security Council.

My hope is someone is able to block the proposal at the quorum stage where TNP can't save it.

Unibot, you're just mad that Rachel never reciprocated your advances back in the day. We get that you both don't like each other.

[Unibot III]

We get that you both don't like each other.

I've got no particular issue with Rachel being commended, I do have a problem that the resolution as written is commending someone that's only faintly recognizable as the 'Rachel' any of us know. Does "diplomatic" really come to mind when you think of adjectives to describe Rachel? It's a ridiculous failure to draft a resolution that properly reflects the person they're commending.

Worse still, I presume it's all intentional. I can't imagine either of the draft's co-authors wrote this proposal unsatirically. The text is clearly meant to test the boundaries of what the writers can get away with - test how much TNP/Euro's bullcrap the SC will accept before it, as an assembly, comes to openly question the authority and influence of WALL.

Fortunately, I'm not an active writer so I don't mind being blacklisted by WALL to say what others here should have been saying all along: the Security Council forum is here to vet your resolution, to make it better - not to nod like a bloody seal at the awesome power of your ten thousand votes. The draft as it stands is false, hyperbolic, and frankly silly - if it were different circumstances, with a different nominee and different co-authors with different statures in the North Pacific and Europeia, the resolution would be opposed with laughter followed by acute abdominal pain. As it stands however, it should be the easiest resolution to pass in the history of the WA even if r3n and McMasterdonia were to submit a Rule IV compliant toaster oven as their argument.

[States of Glory]

if it were different circumstances, with a different nominee and different co-authors with different statures in the North Pacific and Europeia

...then it would be a different proposal entirely and thus there would be a justifiably different reaction.

[Unibot III]

if it were different circumstances, with a different nominee and different co-authors with different statures in the North Pacific and Europeia

...then it would be a different proposal entirely and thus there would be a justifiably different reaction.

I mean to say that if a player were to be commended with a text that did not reflect their character - for instance, Onder and myself being commended for our well-renowned tersity, JAL for his well-renowned trustworthiness etc. etc. etc. - and this nominee did not lead two powerful regions with co-authors of prominent stature in two of the most influential regions in the WA, that proposal would probably be laughed at and discarded. We're only taking it seriously now because we know it's going to pass even if the resolution used the lyrics to "I am the Walrus" in Japanese as its proposal text.

[States of Glory]

it's going to pass even if the resolution used the lyrics to "I am the Walrus" in Japanese as its proposal text.

If such a proposal weren't illegal, I'd totally vote for it.

[Jakker]

We get that you both don't like each other.

I've got no particular issue with Rachel being commended, I do have a problem that the resolution as written is commending someone that's only faintly recognizable as the 'Rachel' any of us know. Does "diplomatic" really come to mind when you think of adjectives to describe Rachel? It's a ridiculous failure to draft a resolution that properly reflects the person they're commending.

Worse still, I presume it's all intentional. I can't imagine either of the draft's co-authors wrote this proposal unsatirically. The text is clearly meant to test the boundaries of what the writers can get away with - test how much TNP/Euro's bullcrap the SC will accept before it, as an assembly, comes to openly question the authority and influence of WALL.

Fortunately, I'm not an active writer so I don't mind being blacklisted by WALL to say what others here should have been saying all along: the Security Council forum is here to vet your resolution, to make it better - not to nod like a bloody seal at the awesome power of your ten thousand votes. The draft as it stands is false, hyperbolic, and frankly silly - if it were different circumstances, with a different nominee and different co-authors with different statures in the North Pacific and Europeia, the resolution would be opposed with laughter followed by acute abdominal pain. As it stands however, it should be the easiest resolution to pass in the history of the WA even if r3n and McMasterdonia were to submit a Rule IV compliant toaster oven as their argument.

The weakest part of the proposal is the last two paragraphs because it has more debatable evidence. The rest is all about her work in Balder and Euro. Regardless of what you think of Balder, it is secure and the region supports her. The unprecedented activity is an opinion and that is the weakest part of the Balder section. Other than that, hard to argue much else there.

[Unibot III]

it's going to pass even if the resolution used the lyrics to "I am the Walrus" in Japanese as its proposal text.

If such a proposal weren't illegal, I'd totally vote for it.

Me too, I don't know why I said that.

I've got no particular issue with Rachel being commended, I do have a problem that the resolution as written is commending someone that's only faintly recognizable as the 'Rachel' any of us know. Does "diplomatic" really come to mind when you think of adjectives to describe Rachel? It's a ridiculous failure to draft a resolution that properly reflects the person they're commending.

Worse still, I presume it's all intentional. I can't imagine either of the draft's co-authors wrote this proposal unsatirically. The text is clearly meant to test the boundaries of what the writers can get away with - test how much TNP/Euro's bullcrap the SC will accept before it, as an assembly, comes to openly question the authority and influence of WALL.

Fortunately, I'm not an active writer so I don't mind being blacklisted by WALL to say what others here should have been saying all along: the Security Council forum is here to vet your resolution, to make it better - not to nod like a bloody seal at the awesome power of your ten thousand votes. The draft as it stands is false, hyperbolic, and frankly silly - if it were different circumstances, with a different nominee and different co-authors with different statures in the North Pacific and Europeia, the resolution would be opposed with laughter followed by acute abdominal pain. As it stands however, it should be the easiest resolution to pass in the history of the WA even if r3n and McMasterdonia were to submit a Rule IV compliant toaster oven as their argument.

The weakest part of the proposal is the last two paragraphs because it has more debatable evidence. The rest is all about her work in Balder and Euro. Regardless of what you think of Balder, it is secure and the region supports her. The unprecedented activity is an opinion and that is the weakest part of the Balder section. Other than that, hard to argue much else there.

You seem to be under the impression that I believe this resolution draft is beyond salvage. I believe the co-writers have no reason to want to re-write, nor do I believe they actually have any interest in re-writing. I'm not sure this proposal is even written in good faith. I think the OP is just going through the motions here before submitting and this is a mostly cosmetic exercise.

At stake, of course is the neutrality of this Assembly which has always striven to vet with sincerity and clarity. Using the sheer strength of one's organization at the voting level as an excuse for a poor and partisan text, whether you're defenders, independents or invaders, compromises the best practices of this Assembly and ultimately, it will be grounds for repeal.

[Kylia Quilor]

This resolution is no more fundamentally fuzzy about the truth than any other that gets passed by this collection of angry cats on PCP.

[Unibot III]

This resolution is no more fundamentally fuzzy about the truth than any other that gets passed by this collection of angry cats on PCP.

"Dissociatively hallucinogenic" isn't the typical benchmark we strive for in the WASC, that's all I'm saying.

[Kylia Quilor]

This resolution is no more fundamentally fuzzy about the truth than any other that gets passed by this collection of angry cats on PCP.

"Dissociatively hallucinogenic" isn't the typical benchmark we strive for in the WASC, that's all I'm saying.

My point is that this resolution isn't 'Dissociatively hallucinogenic' - or rather, if it is, so are a great many other resolutions this meeting between the Mafia and the Yakuza hosted by the Outfit has passed.

[Consular]

Solorni has been a committed proponent of the ideology of Independence, advocating for a pragmatic approach to diplomacy that prioritizes regional interests.

"And here we see the r3n in its natural habit, feigning an appeal to reasonableness while thumping its Manifesto," whispers David Attenborough, peering through a pair of binoculars. "Researchers have long suspected these spontaneous utterances, inappropriately partisan for their environment, might be a herd habit like yawning that once gave this species a distinct evolutionary advantage."

Yeah I have to say, this clause makes me a tad uncomfortable. It's very blatantly pushing the author's personal political agenda inside the resolution.

[HMS Unicorn]

I’ll respond to the various points raised in groups, as a few of them are related to each other.

Excuse me while I piss myself laughing. Rach (Solorni) has been anything but diplomatic in her NS career. Look at her forums posts in GP. And before that she stirred shit with others on offsite forums.

Actually, I didn’t see that. From the bit of Solorni that I know, she ain’t such a diplomat... I can remember when a bunch of people were mocking her for “bad shitposting” or something.

Rachel is a competent diplomat between Balder and other independent regions (which I think r3n is hinting at in that clause), the issue is her 'diplomacy' with Lazarus and the South Pacific was quite honestly less constructive than if she had declared war on them outright.

A diplomat is not someone who behaves diplomatically all the time without exception. A diplomat is someone who represents one state in negotiations with another state, in order to achieve certain diplomatic objectives.

Rach has acted in this capacity in both Europeia and Balder for several years, and has achieved numerous agreements that have strongly affected numerous regions and the broader NS GP diplomatic sphere. The resolution lists several examples. This makes her an effective and world-renowned diplomat.

The fact that Rach can at times behave undiplomatically towards enemies of her regions does not take away from the fact that she has been one of the most impactful diplomats in recent NS GP history. And the resolution is not commending Rach for behaving in a courteous manner in all her posts in NS, but rather for the huge difference she has made on diplomatic affairs.

And unprecedented levels of deadness

The unprecedented activity is an opinion and that is the weakest part of the Balder section.

All regions go through cycles of activity and inactivity. And it is understandable that Rach at times, due to real time obligations, can’t contribute to Balder as much as during her most active periods.

This doesn’t change the fact that: 1) Most of Balder’s active periods were in large part the result of Rach’s personal efforts to reinvigorate the region. The two exceptions to this are the period of activity during Cerebella’s delegacy, and the one shortly after the creation of the region (when Rach was still among the main contributors, even if not the biggest). 2) At its most active, Balder was arguably fairing better than the other two sinkers at their most active. 3) When active, Balder tends to be a region with a large impact among GCRs, making this activity notable.

Given all these, I think the phrasing of the resolution is justified.

I’ll also point out that there is precedent for nations being commended for contributing to active periods of a region, despite also presiding over inactive periods of the same region. One example is Commend Harmoneia and her role in Lazarus.

Runes, we're talking about the Runes aren't we? Fuck my giddy unicorn. The Runes was the Rejected Times written in crayon and spite.

No, not just the Runes. Since at least 2012, Rach has been the editor or a regular contributor to several newspapers, including The Raven Post, The Globe, the Mockingbird, the Europeian Broadcasting Corporation.

As for the comparison to the NS version of Breitbart News, I don’t see how that’s relevant to this thread.

This isn't even semantically correct, the first constitutional convention formed a sovereign and democratic government that is clearly distinct from the government of today. They're different constitutional documents.

At least, I believe they are. The real truth is that Balder deliberately hides its laws from its own residents and outsiders, which I've pointed out many a time - to this day, there's no trace of the Basic Laws promulgated to residents of Balder. That's not the hallmark of a democratic government, it has no commitment to government transparency. It doesn't particularly behave as a democracy would.

On Feb 09, 2017, Rachel made a big show of it to 'open' the Basic Laws to the public when I called her on it again, before yet again withdrawing access to the laws of the region when nobody was watching.

"In any case, I'm not sure what that has to do with [Balder] not being democratic. Particularly when we've had a stable democracy for longer than Lazarus and TSP with far less of the issues they have had with corruption and what have essentially amounted to gangster type politics" - Rachel, Feb 06 2017. Yet another example of her well-renowned diplomacy.

There is legal continuity between the current government of Balder, and the original government created by the constitutional convention. Has the system of government evolved into different forms since then? Sure. But throughout all of this forms, this system of government has remained sovereign and democratic, in large part thanks to Rach’s efforts.

Many other GCRs have gone through multiple constitutional documents while maintaining legal continuity. TSP today is very different from TSP of 2014, and very different from TSP of 2003. And yet we recognize it as the same government, the Coalition, that has remained sovereign and democratic through all these years and through all its various versions. The same goes for TNP. And the same goes for Balder.

The word you're looking for is stability, stability dammit. My bowels are more active than Balder.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will add stability to the list. I’d rather not hear any more about your bowel activity though.

We're commending someone for forming their own monarchy. When did the WA become the Monarchist League? Are we commending Prince Charles next? What is not mentioned in this clause, of course, is she formed monarchical institutions that she herself has led, not just been a member of - it's her royal family. Surely that's slightly self-serving.

Should we not commend Eluvatar for spearheading TNP’s Security Council because they later joined it? Yes, Rach is part of the Monarchy, and that does not change the fact that this institution helped make Balder secure. Which is what the proposal commends.

As for this being self-serving, by becoming the monarch, Rach also had to give away essentially all executive power she could previously exercise as Delegate. If self-interest was what she was after, then she could have easily transformed herself into an absolute monarch, ensuring both permanency in the delegacy and continued control of the executive.

"And here we see the r3n in its natural habit, feigning an appeal to reasonableness while thumping its Manifesto," whispers David Attenborough, peering through a pair of binoculars. "Researchers have long suspected these spontaneous utterances, inappropriately partisan for their environment, might be a herd habit like yawning that once gave this species a distinct evolutionary advantage."

Yeah I have to say, this clause makes me a tad uncomfortable. It's very blatantly pushing the author's personal political agenda inside the resolution.

First of all, how is it pushing my own personal agenda into the resolution? Rach is arguably one of the founders of Independence, and I know from my discussions with her that she views promoting Independence as integral to her diplomatic work and as an achievement she is proud of. The only "agenda" I am pushing is the agenda that Rach, the subject to the commendation, promoted during her long diplomatic career.

Second, this is no different than any other ideology that the Security Council has recognized, which includes at least defenderism, sovereigntism, and raiderism (indirectly, through commendations that are badges of honor), and possibly others (I did not go through all SC resolutions searching for mentions of ideologies). If it is acceptable to commend others for promoting these ideologies on the sole ground that they are widespread and have had a strong impact on NS GP, then it is perfectly acceptable to commend a player for being a key promoter of Independence, another widespread and impactful within NS GP. In fact, this is not even new, given that there is already precedent for Independence being commended, see Commend Renaissancistic People and Commend Europeia. This just follows up on this precedent.

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As for the rest of Unibot’s tirade about how this proposal is written as an “inside joke”, is “untruthful”, is "dissociatively hallucinogenic", puts the SC’s neutrality “at stake”, and so on, I will offer a short response.

This is a proposal that I believe accurately represents the nominee, her achievements, the impact she has had in NS, her playing style, and her character. Every single one of the statements made in the proposal can be verified to be accurate.

Should you listen to me or to Unibot when judging this resolution? I will leave this up to you to decide. Read the draft, read the commentary, and once this goes to vote you can make up your mind about how to vote.

I will simply point out that Unibot is a player who has thrived on spreading misinformation and misrepresenting events in ways that suit him. He used to do this when he was running the UDL and distributing their regular updates; he used to do this when he was writing The Rejected TImes; and he continues to do this now from the fringes of NS GP that he has been pushed to, at every opportunity he gets. He will not hesitate to post accounts of events so blatantly false, that even his former colleagues have to call him out for lying.

I will also say that I will not provide any more responses to Unibot in this thread. I debated whether I should even respond to his previous comments. Maybe I shouldn’t have, but I thought it would be unfair to the nominee for me to not defend her accomplishments against Unibot’s “criticisms”. But I refuse to engage any longer someone who has been banned from the largest NS GP forums for a long history of misconduct towards players including the nominee.

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Comments on the proposal from anyone else are obviously welcome. I honestly appreciate all feedback provided in good faith.

[Consular]

I could have sworn there was a post by Cormac there. Was it deleted? Weird.

[Cormactopia Prime]

I could have sworn there was a post by Cormac there. Was it deleted? Weird.

I deleted it. I went back and reviewed previous SC resolutions and found that the issue to which I initially objected -- indirect commendation of independence as an ideology -- already has precedent in prior SC resolutions, as does the indirect commendation of other ideologies. So basically, having determined that my objection didn't make any sense in light of well established precedent, I removed my objection.

To be clear, I still don't love the indirect commendation of independence in this proposal, nor do I love the indirect commendation of independence or other ideologies such as defenderism in past resolutions. But if we've already done it, and if I'm not going to work to repeal all the other instances of it being done, it makes little sense to object to it in this proposal. Especially when I believe the proposal to be overall well written, and when I believe that Rach is deserving of commendation for her years of substantive contributions to Balder, Europeia, and overall gameplay.

[Kylia Quilor]

If we Commend Defenders for being defenders, this barely controlled exercise in psychedelic rage should commend Independents for being Independent.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

If one of those aforementioned "commendations of ideology" is "Commend Europeia" and the clause

Lauding Europeia's role at the forefront of the Independent ideology, notably including both being host to the pioneering Independent Convention and codifying the principles and values of Independentism in a landmark interregional document known as The Independent Manifesto;

(which I'm not sure if it is or not but oh well)...for what it's worth my intent behind the line was not necessary to commend the ideology itself, but rather the region's very active role in forming, formalizing, and leading the ideology, which I think personally can be a distinctly separate thing. I think you can commend someone for being a leader within a major/notable faction/ideology, without necessarily commending the idea itself - the point is to note their leadership/effort.

[Unibot III]

If one of those aforementioned "commendations of ideology" is "Commend Europeia" and the clause

Lauding Europeia's role at the forefront of the Independent ideology, notably including both being host to the pioneering Independent Convention and codifying the principles and values of Independentism in a landmark interregional document known as The Independent Manifesto;

(which I'm not sure if it is or not but oh well)...for what it's worth my intent behind the line was not necessary to commend the ideology itself, but rather the region's very active role in forming, formalizing, and leading the ideology, which I think personally can be a distinctly separate thing. I think you can commend someone for being a leader within a major/notable faction/ideology, without necessarily commending the idea itself - the point is to note their leadership/effort.

I'll add that I had no issue with Souls' wording and recall editing it. I see distinct differences between how Souls wrote that clause and how it's being approached in "Commend Solorni."

I'll have more of a response with regards to r3n's points later, but I'm busy with holidays stuff IRL.

[Unibot III]

Hello r3n, this is Mr Sprinkles - *points to a squirt bottle* - Mr Sprinkles, a very well known native here to the SC's forum who, I'm afraid, doesn't react well to partisanship.

I will also say that I will not provide any more responses to Unibot in this thread.

*squirt* Be warned, when Mr Sprinkles gets mad, he blows his gasket a bit. *squirt* *squirt*

The fact that Rach can at times behave undiplomatically towards enemies of her regions does not take away from the fact that she has been one of the most impactful diplomats in recent NS GP history.

But that's exactly the problem, r3n. Diplomacy is most commendable when it is with people you consider enemies. That's the hard work. That's why folks here have taken issue with Rachel being commended for being "diplomatic," it's not particularly true in the case where it matters the most: enemies of her regions.

Given all these, I think the phrasing of the resolution is justified.

You have justified the attribution of Balder's activity to Rachel, you have not justified the hyperbole used.

As for the comparison to the NS version of Breitbart News, I don’t see how that’s relevant to this thread.

*squirt* *squirt*

I’d rather not hear any more about your bowel activity though.

I think that that would be best for everyone, yes. *squirts himself*

Should we not commend Eluvatar for spearheading TNP’s Security Council because they later joined it?

Of course, Eluvatar spearheaded a Security Council, Rachel spearheaded a Royal Council.

The difference being the monarchical implications of the latter. Eluvatar would have been crucified in TNP if he had set up a monarchy and was instituted as King of TNP. Sure it's a popular arrangement in Balder, but the World Assembly has long been uncomfortable with commending non-republican governance - indeed, the "Advancement of Democracy" is a mission of the house opposite of us. I'm mostly voicing precedent here.

First of all, how is it pushing my own personal agenda into the resolution?

The clause reads as a rather uncritical introduction to Independence rather than a commendation of Rachel's efforts to promote Independence. Not everyone, after all, agrees that Independence is actually in the interests of the regions who pursue it as an ideology. We've commended people for being Independents, for being Defenders, and for being Invaders here in the WA, but we do try to be careful with the language we use. I helped edit that particular clause you cited in "Commend Europeia" and I think it's very distinct from the one you've written here.

Should you listen to me or to Unibot when judging this resolution?

That's the difference between one zealot and the other, but at least I have considerable experience editing, vetting, drafting and passing SC resolutions. I know when I see a resolution that needs work - and this one needs a rethink.

I will simply point out that Unibot is a player who has thrived on spreading misinformation and misrepresenting events in ways that suit him. He used to do this when he was running the UDL and distributing their regular updates; he used to do this when he was writing The Rejected TImes; and he continues to do this now from the fringes of NS GP that he has been pushed to, at every opportunity he gets.

*squirts* *squirts* *squirts* *squirts*

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Because I feel deeply appreciated for my input in this thread, I took the liberty of preparing an alternative text through some edits to your initial draft, including the proper SC formatting (taking into considering the right tense for preambalatory verbs), and less hyperbolic but arguably more intimate and compelling language. Feel free to bin or use what you like from it.

The World Assembly,

Acknowledging the nominee's great service over the years to Balder, Europeia, and Empires of Earth, and the leadership and advocacy they have demonstrated;

Noting for the sake of reference, Solorni also controls Swift Sure;

Admiring Solorni's contributions to the stability and security of Balder, where Solorni has served as the chief administrator for its regional forum and played a fundamental role in the establishment, and ultimately, the governance of Balder;

Bearing in mind when Balder was created in 2011, Solorni was instrumental in guaranteeing the security and success of the promising region in those early days. The nominee was one of the main organizers of the first constitutional convention of Balder, which established a sovereign and democratic government;

Further bearing in mind in their capacity as a popular WA Delegate and Queen of Balder, Solorni's service continued long after the region's origins. The nominee has always encouraged development and innovation in Balder, including the creation of a Royal Council, to ensure the region's governance is constantly evolving to better serve the needs of its community. Balder, whose strength and stability is evidenced by its record endorsement levels among other sinker regions, has become near synonymous with the nominee themselves and their tireless efforts to achieve even greater prosperity for the region;

Applauding Solorni's work in Europeia, where they served multiple times as President and Cabinet member. Solorni's second presidential term marked the foundation of a modern Europeian foreign policy that has resulted in increased interregional prominence for the region. As Grand Admiral of the Europeian Republican Navy, Solorni also instituted systematic training and recruitment programs, the result of which has been record deployment numbers and greater respect worldwide for the Navy. Likewise, the nominee has been one of the region's most prolific regional recruiters, introducing numerous nations to the Europeian community and, through transformative contributions to the Europeian Citizens' Assembly, encouraging their engagement;

Further applauding Solorni's contributions to the historic region of Empires of Earth, where they served in multiple cabinet offices. Solorni led the revival and refounding of the region as Queen and Empress, securing its history for future generations;

Admiring the leadership and commitment that Solorni has shown in advancing the Independent ideology and its sphere of influence, wherein Solorni has negotiated and forged a number of long-lasting alliances between regions, including Balder, Europeia, Osiris, The Land of Kings and Emperors, The North Pacific, and The West Pacific. Also noteworthy is the nominee's active contributions to the successful multi-regional organizations of the World Assembly Legislative League (WALL) and the GCR Sovereignty Accords;

Praising Solorni's personable and charismatic style of leadership in the aforementioned regions, distinguished for its strong emphasis on community building and regular communication. In all regions they were involved in, the result of their contributions is best evidenced by the numerous members, many of them now leaders in their own right, whose integration and mentorship Solorni helped facilitated;

Hereby,

Commends Solorni.

Co-authored by McMasterdonia.

[Kylia Quilor]

The difference being the monarchical implications of the latter. Eluvatar would have been crucified in TNP if he had set up a monarchy and was instituted as King of TNP. Sure it's a popular arrangement in Balder, but the World Assembly has long been uncomfortable with commending non-republican governance - indeed, the "Advancement of Democracy" is a mission of the house opposite of us. I'm mostly voicing precedent here.

Since when was this house obligated to pay any attention to the other one? I mean, I may have unkind words to say about the Security Council, but we're a fucking basket of kittens compared to that digital hellscape. I mean, granted those kittens have claws and are ready to use them, but still.

[Unibot III]

The difference being the monarchical implications of the latter. Eluvatar would have been crucified in TNP if he had set up a monarchy and was instituted as King of TNP. Sure it's a popular arrangement in Balder, but the World Assembly has long been uncomfortable with commending non-republican governance - indeed, the "Advancement of Democracy" is a mission of the house opposite of us. I'm mostly voicing precedent here.

Since when was this house obligated to pay any attention to the other one? I mean, I may have unkind words to say about the Security Council, but we're a fucking basket of kittens compared to that digital hellscape. I mean, granted those kittens have claws and are ready to use them, but still.

I was raised in that hellscape. I was born in it, molded by it. Muhahaha.

More seriously, it's generally been regarded that the WA - both houses - is sympathetic to liberal democracy. The WA is, by design, a democratic institution. It has no King, no Queen, no Emperor, we make decisions by majority vote. We respect democratic principles and governance. We do allow for a diverse range of political systems within the framework of the WA, but we don't go around talking about how great or ideal monarchies or dictatorships are in resolutions. That's been a convention since forever; see, for example, the debate surrounding Commend Krulltopia.

It would be a departure from convention for either house of the WA to slip into language that appeared outright supportive of monarchical or authoritarian institutions.

[Kylia Quilor]

Since when was this house obligated to pay any attention to the other one? I mean, I may have unkind words to say about the Security Council, but we're a fucking basket of kittens compared to that digital hellscape. I mean, granted those kittens have claws and are ready to use them, but still.

I was raised in that hellscape. I was born in it, molded by it. Muhahaha.

More seriously, it's generally been regarded that the WA - both houses - is sympathetic to liberal democracy. We allow for a diverse range of political systems within the framework of the WA, but we don't go around talking about how great or ideal monarchies or dictatorships are in resolutions. That's been a convention since forever, see, for example, the debate surrounding Commend Krulltopia.

Krulltopia was an absolute monarch (though really, the NPO is more fascistic/Communistic than monarchist, the use of 'Emperor' has always seemed incongrous). Rachel is nearly as harmless as Queen Elizabeth II in terms of her power as a monarch.

[Unibot III]

Krulltopia was an absolute monarch (though really, the NPO is more fascistic/Communistic than monarchist, the use of 'Emperor' has always seemed incongrous). Rachel is nearly as harmless as Queen Elizabeth II in terms of her power as a monarch.

One person's benevolence is another's entitlement. I wouldn't suggest anyone write a WA resolution praising dear Queen Elizabeth II for the Crown either, if it were legal under RIV. Rather I would suggest said author commend Queen Elizabeth for her 'leadership and stewardship of the country through a period of great prosperity, modernization, stability etc. etc. etc.' In short, tone the monarchism down.