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[PASSED] Repeal "Condemn The Black Riders"

Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:34 am

Repeal “Condemn The Black Riders”

Category: Repeal | Target: SC #127 | Proposed By: Kaboomlandia


The Security Council,

Acknowledging the former region of The Black Riders as one of the most feared raider organizations in the world in their day,

Recognizing that the region popularized the practice of tag raiding, committing thousands of these raids, and were condemned not once but twice by the Security Council, though the first of these has now been repealed,

Appalled, however, at the repeated underhanded actions taken by regional leadership in order to succeed at raiding,

Recalling the events of April 2015, in which two high-ranking officers of The Black Riders, General Halcones and Bob Moran, were obliterated instantly as sanction for recruitment methods that violated international law,

Noting The Black Riders' deliberate and frequent use of the Predator program, a dangerous raiding weapon found to violate international law,

Also remembering the events that happened just under a year later, when the Predator scandal resulted in both The Black Riders and DEN being carpet-bombed into permanent uninhability as a result,

Fully aware that raiders see condemnation resolutions as awards by the Security Council,

Completely disbelieving that a region such as The Black Riders that committed so many underhanded acts in order to succeed at raiding should have any sort of recognition by the Security Council,

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #127.



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The Security Council,

Acknowledging the former region of The Black Riders as one of the most feared raider organizations in the world in their day,

Recognizing that the region popularized the practice of tag raiding, committing thousands of these raids, and were condemned not once but twice by the Security Council, though the first of these has now been repealed,

Appalled, however, at the repeated underhanded actions taken by regional leadership in order to succeed at raiding,

Recalling the events of April 2015, in which two high-ranking officers of The Black Riders, General Halcones and Bob Moran, were obliterated instantly as sanction for recruitment methods that violated international law, and the subsequent invasion by dozens of disgruntled natives of the regions that had been mercilessly destroyed by The Black Riders,

Explaining the common use of the Predator program by members of The Black Riders, a raiding weapon developed by Halcones that gave raiders unfairly accurate information to assist them on raiding missions, and which was later found to violate international law,

Also remembering the events that happened just under a year later, when the Predator scandal resulted in both The Black Riders and DEN being carpet-bombed into permanent uninhability as a result,

Fully aware that raiders see condemnation resolutions as awards by the Security Council,

Completely disbelieving that a region such as The Black Riders that committed so many underhanded acts in order to succeed at raiding should have any sort of recognition by the Security Council,

Pointing to similar repeals of the condemnations of Gest, General Halcones, and Kknight, all for similar reasons,

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #127.


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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:41 am

As the author of SC#127, while I'll of course be sorry to see something I authored be repealed, I do support this repeal.
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:45 am

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Postby Wrapper » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:59 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:Also remembering the events that happened just under a year later, when the Predator scandal resulted in both The Black Riders and DEN being carpet-bombed into permanent uninhability as a result,

Dude, that's just beautiful IC stuff. :clap:

Explaining the common use of the Predator program by members of The Black Riders, a raiding weapon developed by Halcones that gave raiders unfairly accurate information to assist them on raiding missions, and which was later found to violate international law,

This, on the other hand, needs some subject noun rearrangement; as written, it states that The Black Riders, not Predator, were a raiding weapon. Also, "Explaining", meh, and everyone knows what Predator is by now. Instead of getting bogged down in such details, try something like this:

Noting The Black Riders' deliberate use of the Predator program, a dangerous weapon that was later found to be in contravention of international law,

Also, just my opinion, I'd get rid of the Pointing clause. These guys already have enough spilled ink devoted to them in these chambers, no need to give them anymore.

Full support, of course.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:39 pm

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:13 pm

"and the subsequent invasion by dozens of disgruntled natives of the regions that had been mercilessly destroyed by The Black Riders"

I wouldn't include this. 1) its not really about TBR and 2) that invasion was mostly ran by double-agents from The Black Hawks who eventually did lock the region down and kicked the retributive natives from the region.
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:29 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Also remembering the events that happened just under a year later, when the Predator scandal resulted in both The Black Riders and DEN being carpet-bombed into permanent uninhability as a result,

Dude, that's just beautiful IC stuff. :clap:

Explaining the common use of the Predator program by members of The Black Riders, a raiding weapon developed by Halcones that gave raiders unfairly accurate information to assist them on raiding missions, and which was later found to violate international law,

This, on the other hand, needs some subject noun rearrangement; as written, it states that The Black Riders, not Predator, were a raiding weapon. Also, "Explaining", meh, and everyone knows what Predator is by now. Instead of getting bogged down in such details, try something like this:

Noting The Black Hawks' deliberate use of the Predator program, a dangerous weapon that was later found to be in contravention of international law,

Also, just my opinion, I'd get rid of the Pointing clause. These guys already have enough spilled ink devoted to them in these chambers, no need to give them anymore.

Full support, of course.
You meant TBR, not TBH, right? ;)
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Postby Digory Kirke » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:47 pm

Full support here. The Black Riders built their empire off of cheating and undermining the integrity of raiding as a whole. Happy to see this repealed.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:50 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:"and the subsequent invasion by dozens of disgruntled natives of the regions that had been mercilessly destroyed by The Black Riders"

I wouldn't include this. 1) its not really about TBR and 2) that invasion was mostly ran by double-agents from The Black Hawks who eventually did lock the region down and kicked the retributive natives from the region.

Changed. Thanks, I was mostly Noob Kaboom at that point so I'm not 100% sure of details.
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:52 pm

Fauxia wrote:You meant TBR, not TBH, right?

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. :p

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:00 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:"and the subsequent invasion by dozens of disgruntled natives of the regions that had been mercilessly destroyed by The Black Riders"

I wouldn't include this. 1) its not really about TBR and 2) that invasion was mostly ran by double-agents from The Black Hawks who eventually did lock the region down and kicked the retributive natives from the region.


A bit off there. I mean, I'm not going to go into the first point there, I'll leave that between you and the author, but on the latter -

Sleepers were part of the *3rd* regional government of TBR. The initial invasion was a wild mess of natives. Eventually, the first leader quit and turned it over to the second leader. At that point, there were a few of us haphazardly farting around as infiltrators. I was personally part of the security department, a relatively new member, and tasked with running a background check on the 2nd leader off the bat. I actually found some interesting stuff, and informed my superiors, with citations, that the 2nd leader might be a bit unstable in power. Shortly afterwards, he proved me right by effectively attempting to purge the rest of the government :P My nation happened to not be ejected, as a relative unknown, and ended up quite by chance being the point of the attempt by the ejected government to retake control. I was elected del, after a close call vs both the 2nd leader and some other not-disguised GP'ers attempting to butt in. Then, I gradually built a team and recruited more people, rigged constitutional voting to pick a favorable constitution to allow us to rig every new office election, and took all the offices too, eventually emptying the region and refounding it :P

...But point was, there were only a few of us haphazardly involved at the time of the 2nd government, and we had no hand in the creation of either the 1st or 2nd.

EDIT: And, to add, though I and kinda TBH as an extension took over to a degree after I ended up del/one of the more active infiltrators, I was recruited by Gerzam of all people initially, the initial group was definitely not hawk heavy, and the final group was still pretty well divided among many orgs.

EDIT2: Here's a list, top-most chunk is active infiltrators when the coup was tripped. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=443621
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:17 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Fauxia wrote:You meant TBR, not TBH, right?

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. :p
Did you mean what you meant and say what you said? :p
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:36 am

Planning to submit this after tonight's major.
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Postby Kanglia » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:12 pm

Full support. Will be voting on my WA
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:19 pm

I'd gladly vote for this. No sense in condemning something that, frankly, no longer exists.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:42 am

Has now been submitted.
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You have my full support.
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:30 pm

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:You have my full support.
I concur
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Postby The Stalker » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:54 pm

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:16 pm

Surprisingly, this one cruised to quorum easily.
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Postby Mombombu » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:52 am

It is the opinion of the Government of Mombombu that Security Council Resolution #127 should remain in place as a symbolic gesture to all regions and nations in the world; that the World Assembly will not tolerate raiders in any form.

We are voting against this repeal and encourage all nations who value the dignity of sovereignty to do the same.

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Postby Ulix » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:19 am

I agree with the idea to not condemn/repeal condemnation of Raider Areas. As this resolution (and vast others say) "Noting that raider regions see condemnations as badges of honor". To put it this way, if supporting Catholicism was worthy of condemnation, do you think the pope would care? (Sorry for the RL, it's just to demonstrate my point)
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Postby Otaku Stratus » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:26 am

I'll just never understand this attitude
if you tell someone bad 'we won't condemn you because you see it as an award' guess what they're going to do?
Of course bad people see acknowledgement of bad behavior as an award. That doesn't mean the rest of us have to 180 our response.

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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:27 am

Otaku Stratus wrote:I'll just never understand this attitude
if you tell someone bad 'we won't condemn you because you see it as an award' guess what they're going to do?
Of course bad people see acknowledgement of bad behavior as an award. That doesn't mean the rest of us have to 180 our response.


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