The Church of Satan wrote:Solorni wrote:In TRR's entire history, they have only averaged 19 posts per day. This is buoyed by the recent term underneath Catalyse where they have been the most active they have ever been in their history. Balder in comparison has had over 50 posts per day which is why it has a much larger forum despite being much younger than TRR.
As well, Catalyse has demonstrated that TRR has had historically weak delegates. Her endorsement count is much higher than previous delegates.
Thus, and I recall that Guy's term was a very inactive period that this is not something we should accept in the Sinkers. This not something we should be awarding people for. If TRR was a UCR it would have gone founderless and be empty by now considering how its past leaders simply used the position for their own benefit rather than the regions and how little they cared for it.
Every region has periods of low activity. Balder is no exception.
This is a very interesting and great point; both regions have had periods of very low activity. When Balder and Osiris were created, there was a lot of excitement because of how inactive TRR and Lazarus were. Both TRR and Lazarus were only relevant because of their status as GCRs. Balder's philosophy has always been slightly different. We have never wanted to simply be relevant because we are a Game Created Region. Rather, we wanted to be relevant because of our community and what that community accomplishes. In a similar way, most game created regions have also been relevant for reasons other than their status as a feeder or a sinker.
But for the vast majority of TRR's history, this has not been the case. This is similar to most of Lazarus' history. It is simply facts, if a UCR had been around since 2004 (TRRs forum creation year) and had posted 19 posts per day since then, it would not be a relevant UCR. In addition to the fact that the FRA held on to it as their claim to legitimacy for years during FRA's decline, that to me is what TRR has been. A region only relevant for the vast majority of its history because of the fact that it was a GCR and groups like the FRA used that fact for years as a source of legitimacy. Leader after leader just coasting by.
Why should we nominate people simply because TRR is a sinker when we could nominate people who have built up greater communities with greater care in regions that don't get that much attention here because their users have built such great communities they don't venture outside as much? Perhaps it's different today, but for the vast majority of TRR's history they had achieved as much and were as active and professional as a small sized UCR. In fact, when I speak of how building up a sinker is like fighting back a hopeless apathy that will eventually drain us all and that the sinker natural state is being completely dead... it was because of how TRR and Lazarus when Balder was created had accomplished nothing and were dead. When I got involved in Balder, I asked myself if we could escape this fate? The fate of TRR. TRR has always been a great inspiration to my efforts to build up Balder so that it would not be as dead as TRR has been throughout its history.
So I do not think that we should be commending people simply for being delegate of TRR. To me, that is like saying we should commend someone because they were able to win an election in a GCR which is often far easier than elections in the biggest UCRs!. Perhaps he was an extraordinary delegate for TRR, but as Fratt stated he was not even the delegate during the 'Golden ages' of TRR. The golden ages of a region which has been less than half as active as some of the other sinkers. Perhaps Guy was important to TRR, but that does not make him commend worthy and I can think of people who did far more to build up their communities than Guy did.
I am truly happy that TRR today is active, but this is simply not the case for the vast majority of its history. I'd be more happy to commend the people today who have defied over a decade of what people thought was the ceiling for what was possible in TRR.
