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Catlander
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Postby Catlander » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:07 am

nasis sucks :evil:

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:30 am

Currently on track to be at vote by major. Approvals have gone far easier than for my last proposal!

Edit: And officially in queue.
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The color or what?..

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:00 pm

We are now at vote!
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Aexnidaral » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:14 pm

:D Here we go!
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Postby Crantaolo » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:09 pm

Before I begin I would like to commend you on this draft which it think is around about 99.9% correct according to my countries and nations beliefs in capitalism. It includes the fact that nations can't show off too much which I think is good as it pushes out extreme forms of nationalism. However you mention the right to a free trial which was repealed not all that long ago. If other members of the assembly were willing to bring back the right to a fair trial which is a very important part of civil rights and capitalism you would certainly have my vote.

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:10 pm

Crantaolo wrote:Before I begin I would like to commend you on this draft which it think is around about 99.9% correct according to my countries and nations beliefs in capitalism. It includes the fact that nations can't show off too much which I think is good as it pushes out extreme forms of nationalism. However you mention the right to a free trial which was repealed not all that long ago. If other members of the assembly were willing to bring back the right to a fair trial which is a very important part of civil rights and capitalism you would certainly have my vote.


I...think you have the wrong thread? Maybe the wrong forum section?
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The color or what?..

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Crantaolo
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Postby Crantaolo » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:13 pm

I think we should have a vote also so we can see these Europeans apologise for all their invasions then I will consider voting on this topic I think it is a very nationalistic view point to glorify your own country to the rest of the assembly although I do applaud the nation for their great work they do for the assembly and the council

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Postby Freederickia » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:52 pm

NAY, The president of Europe has a poor track record of political and personal freedom and has no concern for the environment. I cannot support a region that has chosen this person to represent them.

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Postby Willania Imperium » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:56 pm

Freederickia wrote:NAY, The president of Europe has a poor track record of political and personal freedom and has no concern for the environment. I cannot support a region that has chosen this person to represent them.


We don't vote based on stats. Very few of us recognize them. We mostly focus on more empirical things, like achievements, feats, accomplishments, etc. And I think they have it. So, FOR.

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Postby Wrapper » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:12 am

Freederickia wrote:NAY, The president of Europe has a poor track record of political and personal freedom and has no concern for the environment. I cannot support a region that has chosen this person to represent them.

Europe is not Europeia.

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Postby Aclion » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:57 am

I can't in good conscious support this when Europeia is occupying one of our embassy regions.
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Postby Solorni » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:32 am

Voted yes because Europeia is awesome. I would have voted right at major if I wasn't running on 5 hours of sleep and had to work early the next day. If only it had come out in minor.
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Postby Agadar » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:18 am

Voted no because, as harsh as it might sound, the only thing I know Europiea from is from their weekly spam dispatch that always taints the dispatch list. It would be best to stick to a single dispatch. No need to create a new one every week and make your residents vote them up the list. But that is a discussion for another time and another thread.
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With all due respect

Postby FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:20 am

With all due respect, as we understand that stats are not a perfect reflection of intent, we notice that Europeia has one of the lowest rates of freedom from taxation in the NS world.

FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever most respectfully vote against the resolution.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:23 am

Agadar wrote:Voted no because, as harsh as it might sound, the only thing I know Europiea from is from their weekly spam dispatch that always taints the dispatch list. It would be best to stick to a single dispatch. No need to create a new one every week and make your residents vote them up the list. But that is a discussion for another time and another thread.


I believe that is for national news. It’s really informative.

FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever wrote:With all due respect, as we understand that stats are not a perfect reflection of intent, we notice that Europeia has one of the lowest rates of freedom from taxation in the NS world.

FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever most respectfully vote against the resolution.


What does this have to do with the resolution? You’re voting based on stats? When you have a proposal on accomplishments?

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Postby Agadar » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:28 am

Willania Imperium wrote:
Agadar wrote:Voted no because, as harsh as it might sound, the only thing I know Europiea from is from their weekly spam dispatch that always taints the dispatch list. It would be best to stick to a single dispatch. No need to create a new one every week and make your residents vote them up the list. But that is a discussion for another time and another thread.


I believe that is for national news. It’s really informative.

FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever wrote:With all due respect, as we understand that stats are not a perfect reflection of intent, we notice that Europeia has one of the lowest rates of freedom from taxation in the NS world.

FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever most respectfully vote against the resolution.


What does this have to do with the resolution? You’re voting based on stats? When you have a proposal on accomplishments?


I don't find them informative at all, seeing as they never contain information I find relevant or interesting. For me, it's just a permanent, wasted spot taken up in the dispatch list. There is no reason at all why it can't all be compiled in a single dispatch except for farming likes and gaining attention. Well, they got my attention, and it's not positive attention. But I digress: this thread is not about the specifics of my annoyance, it's about the proposal at vote.
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Postby Brunhizzle » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:48 am

Agadar wrote:Voted no because, as harsh as it might sound, the only thing I know Europiea from is from their weekly spam dispatch that always taints the dispatch list. It would be best to stick to a single dispatch. No need to create a new one every week and make your residents vote them up the list. But that is a discussion for another time and another thread.

I've tried, but I honestly can't think of a worse reason to vote against this commendation. Even the NS-Stats argument is better than this.
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Postby Agadar » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:58 am

Brunhizzle wrote:
Agadar wrote:Voted no because, as harsh as it might sound, the only thing I know Europiea from is from their weekly spam dispatch that always taints the dispatch list. It would be best to stick to a single dispatch. No need to create a new one every week and make your residents vote them up the list. But that is a discussion for another time and another thread.

I've tried, but I honestly can't think of a worse reason to vote against this commendation. Even the NS-Stats argument is better than this.


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Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:59 am

FOR

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:51 am

Agadar wrote:
Willania Imperium wrote:
I believe that is for national news. It’s really informative.



What does this have to do with the resolution? You’re voting based on stats? When you have a proposal on accomplishments?


I don't find them informative at all, seeing as they never contain information I find relevant or interesting. For me, it's just a permanent, wasted spot taken up in the dispatch list. There is no reason at all why it can't all be compiled in a single dispatch except for farming likes and gaining attention. Well, they got my attention, and it's not positive attention. But I digress: this thread is not about the specifics of my annoyance, it's about the proposal at vote.

We have two dispatches in the top 20: this week's update and last week's. That really isn't "spammy" in my opinion.

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Postby The Stalker » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:59 am

Support, I think they've earned a Commending.
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:24 pm

The Stalker wrote:Support, I think they've earned a Commending.


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Postby Trinnien » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:12 pm

Nicely done work, Souls.

Europeia has its detractors of course, but I think they've earned this commendation over the course of their decade-long existence.
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Postby Iyanden » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:28 am

How could you support a vile man that supports communists the most evil people present and in history that killed way more than any other ideology. This "anti fascism" BS has gone too far. Not to mention how he occupies innocent regions because muh fascism because they don't agree with his vile ideology. I cant believe so many people support this vile nation. Shows how far leftist the WA is now. Fascist regions have a right to exist and gather round together without being harassed.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:37 am

Iyanden wrote:How could you support a vile man that supports communists the most evil people present and in history that killed way more than any other ideology. This "anti fascism" BS has gone too far. Not to mention how he occupies innocent regions because muh fascism because they don't agree with his vile ideology. I cant believe so many people support this vile nation. Shows how far leftist the WA is now

“Ya da ya da blah blah ‘commie lover’ blah blah ‘anti-fascist’ blah blah. If you’re going to not support someone, at least don’t base it entirely on ideology.

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