[ABANDONED] "Commend The Embassy"

[South Asians]

The Security Council,

Recognising The Embassy as the record holder for most embassies in Nationstates.

Impressed by it's initiative to help regions grow by providing them a platform to recruit for their respective regions in The Embassy's regional message board.

Noting that The Embassy acts as a chat region for more than thousands to communicate regardless their ideologies.

Applauding the efforts made by The Embassy to construct those embassies since 2015.

Knowing that an embassy is a symbol of peace and friendship between two regions.

Asserting that The Security Council should recognise those who help to spread world peace.

Acknowledging that The Embassy is spreading interregional peace by connecting regions through embassies.

Hereby commends The Embassy.

Submit your comments and suggestions. This is my first security council proposal.

[Oresland]

So the only real reason to commend this region is just "this region has a lot of embassies, commend them" and "with the region, smaller regions can promote themselves". Sorry, but no. It may be an impressive feat, but I don't think it's commendable.

[Imperium Anglorum]

"with the region, smaller regions can promote themselves".

I'll be honest, I don't believe that could possibly be true: there are so many regions on their lists that they'd absolutely be lost on it and have little promotion whatsoever.

[South Asians]

So the only real reason to commend this region is just "this region has a lot of embassies, commend them" and "with the region, smaller regions can promote themselves". Sorry, but no. It may be an impressive feat, but I don't think it's commendable.

My main motive to commend this region is that it has constructed a lot of embassies and it has provided a platform for thousands of people to communicate with each other. Security Council commends those regions/nations which spreads interregional peace and The Embassy has united more than 2000 regions and spread peace among them. So, i think The Embassy should be commended.

[Manaime]

So the only real reason to commend this region is just "this region has a lot of embassies, commend them" and "with the region, smaller regions can promote themselves". Sorry, but no. It may be an impressive feat, but I don't think it's commendable.

My main motive to commend this region is that it has constructed a lot of embassies and it has provided a platform for thousands of people to communicate with each other. Security Council commends those regions/nations which spreads interregional peace and The Embassy has united more than 2000 regions and spread peace among them. So, i think The Embassy must be commended.

Umm.. no. Embassies don't bring peace. Say if someone hates the other person from that other region and the Embassy are both at embassies with them. Then they would start arguing whether to remove the embassy or not. So... yeah. It's not commendable.

[The Atlae Isles]

The Embassy doesn't really spread interregional peace. They enable people to talk on the RMB. And sometimes that's not peaceful.

[Manaime]

The Embassy doesn't really spread interregional peace. They enable people to talk on the RMB. And sometimes that's not peaceful.

I already said that.

[Kermitus Primarius Schoolus]

The Security Council,

Recognising The Embassy as the record holder for most embassies in Nationstates.

Impressed by it's initiative to help regions grow by providing them a platform to recruit for their respective regions in The Embassy's regional message board.

Noting that The Embassy acts as a chat region for more than thousands to communicate regardless their ideologies.

Applauding the efforts made by The Embassy to construct embassies those since 2015.

Knowing that an embassy is a symbol of peace and friendship between two regions.

Asserting that The Security Council should recognise those who help to spread world peace.

Acknowledging that The Embassy is spreading interregional peace by connecting regions through embassies.

Hereby commends The Embassy.

Submit your comments and suggestions. This is my first security council proposal.

I can see the idea (cause nations and regions have been commended for exceptional feats like stats) but the Embassy has done 1 and only thing. And when they propose embassies, it gets annoying

By the way this is Honeydewistan

[South Asians]

The Embassy doesn't really spread interregional peace. They enable people to talk on the RMB. And sometimes that's not peaceful.

At least it provides a platform for people to talk in their RMB. I know sometimes it's not peaceful but i also know that we can bring peace by talking.

[South Asians]

I can see the idea (cause nations and regions have been commended for exceptional feats like stats) but the Embassy has done 1 and only thing. And when they propose embassies, it gets annoying

By the way this is Honeydewistan

Things get annoying when a person don't knows about it's benefits. We should focus on the positive side of a thing rather negative.

[Oresland]

I can see the idea (cause nations and regions have been commended for exceptional feats like stats) but the Embassy has done 1 and only thing. And when they propose embassies, it gets annoying

By the way this is Honeydewistan

Things get annoying when a person don't knows about it's benefits. We should focus on the positive side of a thing rather negative.

OOC: If we only focused on the positives, then we couldn't correctly critize movies, books, etc. Any actual constructive criticism that may come from looking at it negatively would be gone. If people only looked at say my new dress positively, then I wouldn't know if it doesn't really fit me. We should look at it in both ways, not just the positive.

[South Asians]

OOC: If we only focused on the positives, then we couldn't correctly critize movies, books, etc. Any actual constructive criticism that may come from looking at it negatively would be gone. If people only looked at say my new dress positively, then I wouldn't know if it doesn't really fit me. We should look at it in both ways, not just the positive.

Each and every thing has both positive side and a negative side. Recruitment is positive for the recruiter but sometimes negative for the receiver. An Optimists sees the positive side but an pessimist sees the negative side. You can see in the past SC commendation many defenders are commended. Most raiders have voted for their commendation although raiders are defender's enemies. https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=2 look at this resolution it commends a region which congratulates featured region if this is commendable then this resolution should be commendable.

[Oresland]

OOC: If we only focused on the positives, then we couldn't correctly critize movies, books, etc. Any actual constructive criticism that may come from looking at it negatively would be gone. If people only looked at say my new dress positively, then I wouldn't know if it doesn't really fit me. We should look at it in both ways, not just the positive.

Each and every thing has both positive side and a negative side. Recruitment is positive for the recruiter but sometimes negative for the receiver. An Optimists sees the positive side but an pessimist sees the negative side. You can see in the past SC commendation many defenders are commended. Most raiders have voted for their commendation although raiders are defender's enemies. https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=2 look at this resolution it commends a region which congratulates featured region if this is commendable then this resolution should be commendable.

A repeal for that resolution is being drafted.

[South Asians]

A repeal for that resolution is being drafted.

I know and i support that repeal. But i think we should commend the embassy because it takes more effort to build an embassy than messaging featured region. Congratulating featured doesn't spread interregional peace but constructing embassy creates interregional peace. The embassy has connected more than 2000 regions by constructing embassies.

[Kaboomlandia]

I am opposed to the commendation of a region for simply spamming embassy requests everywhere.

[South Asians]

I am opposed to the commendation of a region for simply spamming embassy requests everywhere.

I haven't written anywhere that SC is commending the embassy because it spams embassy requests. I have written the points which are commendable. Raiders and defenders also send mass api telegrams appealing people to join their organsation. We can call it spam too. But rather then calling it a spam we commend those organisations.

[Kenmoria]

I am opposed to the commendation of a region for simply spamming embassy requests everywhere.

I haven't written anywhere that SC is commending the embassy because it spams embassy requests. I have written the points which are commendable. Raiders and defenders also send mass api telegrams appealing people to join their organsation. We can call it spam too. But rather then calling it a spam we commend those organisations.

No, we commend those nations for defending, the mass API telegrams have nothing to do with it. Whereas the only thing the embassy has done is spam and that by itself is certainly not commendable.

[South Asians]

No, we commend those nations for defending, the mass API telegrams have nothing to do with it. Whereas the only thing the embassy has done is spam and that by itself is certainly not commendable.

If you are commending those nations for defending. I am commending The Embassy for connecting more than 2000 regions through embassies.

[Drasnia]

I haven't written anywhere that SC is commending the embassy because it spams embassy requests. I have written the points which are commendable. Raiders and defenders also send mass api telegrams appealing people to join their organsation. We can call it spam too. But rather then calling it a spam we commend those organisations.

No, we commend those nations for defending, the mass API telegrams have nothing to do with it. Whereas the only thing the embassy has done is spam and that by itself is certainly not commendable.

Lol, recruiting from GCRs is not spam.

Let's take a look at this resolution.

The Security Council,

Recognising The Embassy as the record holder for most embassies in Nationstates.

So the very first line is about them being embassy hoarders. Uh huh, okay.

Impressed by it's initiative to help regions grow by providing them a platform to recruit for their respective regions in The Embassy's regional message board.

So they're recruiter-friendly. That's nice enough, I suppose. I do wonder how much success people get by trying to recruit through y'alls embassies though. I'd guess it's near zero, but I don't know too much about the Embassy.

Noting that The Embassy acts as a chat region for more than thousands to communicate regardless their ideologies.

That isn't commendable at all. Just having an RMB chat is commendable now? Better get writing commends for all the school regions that send thousands of messages each day.

Applauding the efforts made by The Embassy to construct embassies those since 2015.

No. Just no. Their strategy is sending requests to literally every region in the game, disregarding any posted rules for embassy requests. It's disrespectful for sovereign regions, is what it is.

Knowing that an embassy is a symbol of peace and friendship between two regions.

Needless fluff, not to mention it feels out of place.

Asserting that The Security Council should recognise those who help to spread world peace.

No, collecting embassies does not spread world peace. There are ways to spread world peace in this game, but that is not one of them.

Acknowledging that The Embassy is spreading interregional peace by connecting regions through embassies.

See Above.

Hereby commends The Embassy.

Nope.

Commendations are for people or regions who have affected great change in the game - people who have shaped and changed the landscape(s) of communities for the better through their actions. Simply having embassies and allowing people to chat and recruit through them isn't really changing things much at all. It's insignificant, really. The Embassy does not deserve to be commended, plain and simple.

[South Asians]

Commendations are for people or regions who have affected great change in the game - people who have shaped and changed the landscape(s) of communities for the better through their actions. Simply having embassies and allowing people to chat and recruit through them isn't really changing things much at all. It's insignificant, really. The Embassy does not deserve to be commended, plain and simple.

With the help of The Embassy many regions have been liberated by defenders. Many victims of raided regions have asked for help in The Embassy's RMB and they have got help. You are saying that embassies is not a symbol of peace in NS, tell me the name of two regions which are enemies but they have embassies constructed between them. If you don't know much about The Embassy you shouldn't criticize it.

[The Atlae Isles]

I am opposed to the commendation of a region for simply spamming embassy requests everywhere.

I haven't written anywhere that SC is commending the embassy because it spams embassy requests. I have written the points which are commendable. Raiders and defenders also send mass api telegrams appealing people to join their organsation. We can call it spam too. But rather then calling it a spam we commend those organisations.

That's literally all it does. Not exactly commendable.

Commendations are for people or regions who have affected great change in the game - people who have shaped and changed the landscape(s) of communities for the better through their actions. Simply having embassies and allowing people to chat and recruit through them isn't really changing things much at all. It's insignificant, really. The Embassy does not deserve to be commended, plain and simple.

With the help of The Embassy many regions have been liberated by defenders. Many victims of raided regions have asked for help in The Embassy's RMB and they have got help. You are saying that embassies is not a symbol of peace in NS, tell me the name of two regions which are enemies but they have embassies constructed between them. If you don't know much about The Embassy you shouldn't criticize it.

Clearly you also don't know

You probably shouldn't blame raiding for the Embassy's "commendability." The Embassy did not liberate them, the Defenders did. Still not commendable.

Take regions that will accept any embassy request that comes their way. That nullifies the meaning of the embassy, so it's not peaceful at all.

[Vincent Drake]

In my opinion, having "the most" of something in the game is a commendable line item...but that's all it is, one line item. The Embassy is a one-trick pony in this regard, it's their only significant and unique accomplishment.

Impressed by it's initiative to help regions grow by providing them a platform to recruit for their respective regions in The Embassy's regional message board.

A quick look at their RMB shows that they actively suppresses regional recruitment posts, despite the region carrying the "Recruiter-Friendly" tag:

Post by Hybera suppressed by Embassy Master.
Post by The Democratic Commonwealth suppressed by Embassy Master.
Post by The Third Empire Of China suppressed by Embassy Master.

So, this line item is simply not true.

tell me the name of two regions which are enemies but they have embassies constructed between them.

Almost any founderless region with an embassy with an org that raids. There are hundreds upon hundreds of such embassy pairs.

Knowing that an embassy is a symbol of peace and friendship between two regions.

Embassies are just a game mechanic, they don't necessarily convey amicable or even voluntary associations. Embassies are often just a symbol of how actively a region tag raids. An org conquers a region, that org can use embassies to signify its addition to their empire.

With the help of The Embassy many regions have been liberated by defenders. Many victims of raided regions have asked for help in The Embassy's RMB and they have got help.

More likely detagged than liberated, and not many. Looking through the RMB again, I see only a couple examples of success after going back many pages, and they're detags. A pair of defenders can detag more regions in one update than those detagged off The Embassy's RMB in months and months. That region is a decent place to see recent tag hits, but the activity page and raider happenings are far more useful. Your argument is basically that the region serves as a utility, and it's not as good as the other utilities the game itself provides. One plus is that actual natives post those help requests...but they could just contact defender orgs directly or detag themselves. There's no particular reason to go to The Embassy for that.

Noting that The Embassy acts as a chat region for more than thousands to communicate regardless their ideologies.

Again, you're treating the region as a utility. This forum allows for the same thing, and better, since you don't need an embassy with them to post here. A common utility function is not commendable. Also, the quality of chat on that RMB is pretty low/average. Look at the players posting one liners in all caps, the huge mod-bomb spam a while back, etc. It's pretty much just ordinary game banter that you'd find on any other RMB.

The Embassy is just not commendable.

[Kanglia]

Basically what Vinny & everyone else above said.
The Embassy is not really worth commending, they only do one thing & I wouldn't say that it's all that impressive.

[Pollaetorian]

The Bar on the corner of every region does most of the things The Embassy does but better but the number of embassies 1188 to 1993 embassies matters little at those numbers.

[South Asians]

I think i should find an another region which is more commendable rather than The Embassy. I abandoned this draft.
Thank you for your comments and suggestions....
Farewell....