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Catlander
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Postby Catlander » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:10 pm

Meanwhile in Mourinholand...

New legislation for crooks and people with too many kids are being kicked out of the country.

:eek: :eek: :shock: :eek: :blink:
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:15 pm

Catlander wrote:Meanwhile in Mourinholand...

New legislation for crooks and people with too many kids are being kicked out of the country.

:eek: :eek: :shock: :eek: :blink:

Oh no. Someone answered an issue that has no effect on anyone other nation or person and is mostly irrelevant. Clearly an SC condemnation is called for.

Seriously, there is no reason at all for Mourinholand to be condemned, it will never make quorum even with campaigning and if by some miracle it makes it to the vote it will be crushed by every delegate on the planet.
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Postby Manaime » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:50 pm

I thought you can't use NS stats and issue fallouts?
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:53 pm

Manaime wrote:I thought you can't use NS stats and issue fallouts?

While generally frowned upon (otherwise we'd be handing out condemnations to every psychotic dictatorship in the game), it's not against the SC rules.

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Postby The Atlae Isles » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:47 pm

Catlander wrote:Meanwhile in Mourinholand...

New legislation for crooks and people with too many kids are being kicked out of the country.

:eek: :eek: :shock: :eek: :blink:

Clearly that's not the worst, is it? Because if they get a condemnation, surely my more dystopian and bigger nation must be condemned! :P

Edit: given that the author and the nominee are in the same region and the proposal is being touted around the RMB, I'd wager this is a publicity stunt.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:14 pm

Catlander wrote:Meanwhile in Mourinholand...

New legislation for crooks and people with too many kids are being kicked out of the country.

:eek: :eek: :shock: :eek: :blink:


Gee whiz, an effect of an issue that has little to no effect according to the NS community. Listen, with proof like this, it will be a miracle to even get this thing reach quorum. Nobody in their right mind will vote for this. So just give it up. It's lost.

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Catlander wrote:Meanwhile in Mourinholand...

New legislation for crooks and people with too many kids are being kicked out of the country.

Clearly that's not the worst, is it? Because if they get a condemnation, surely my more dystopian and bigger nation must be condemned! :P

Edit: given that the author and the nominee are in the same region and the proposal is being touted around the RMB, I'd wager this is a publicity stunt.


I just think it's another bad egg that won't die.

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Postby Greater Gilead » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:19 am

The Atlae Isles wrote:Clearly that's not the worst, is it? Because if they get a condemnation, surely my more dystopian and bigger nation must be condemned! :P

Your logic is logical. (Yes, your nation is a dystopia) Now, if this passes, I have reason to worry. (A lot of people think mine is a dystopia for some reason.)

@catlander, when are you going to go around condemning nations like mine? You have your work cut out for you.
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Postby Catlander » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:08 am

@Greater Gilead where is it ?

If someone needs my support to comdemn him, you telegram me whenever you want :lol:

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Postby Greater Gilead » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:28 am

Catlander wrote:@Greater Gilead where is it ?

If someone needs my support to comdemn him, you telegram me whenever you want :lol:

Let's save the children of the NationStates

If you are planning to condemn every dystopia in Nationstates that is in the WA, like me, you have a lot of work to do.
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Postby Catlander » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:56 am

Greater Gilead wrote:
Catlander wrote:@Greater Gilead where is it ?

If someone needs my support to comdemn him, you telegram me whenever you want :lol:

Let's save the children of the NationStates

If you are planning to condemn every dystopia in Nationstates that is in the WA, like me, you have a lot of work to do.


Being peaceful and good nation is very boring... but to pacify to the others is very fun ! :lol:

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Postby Cheeksam » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:57 pm

Kenmoria wrote:If you gave an SC condemnation to mourinland it would seriously devalue every other condemnation. Almost every single condemnation has been given for raiding and the system can be summed as being "bad with style". If someone wants to play as a dictatorship why should we stop them? Doing this sort of thing would alienate the many players who enjoy being tyrannical and wish to play in the WA.

Not entirely true. Loads of nations have been condemned for dictatorships, even Milograd. See here.

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Postby Catlander » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:06 am

Dear members of World Assembly:

This condemnation proposal against a nation member of WA (which violated several resolutions on Civil and Human Rights, etc.etc.) has been rejected. And that allows this dictatorial nation to join efforts with other similar, so that all together reject and skip all the legality they want. Really this is becoming a "Sin City".

The immediate consequence is that whoever wants to make a resolution must know that nobody will watch over its compliance and, of course ... if it proves annoying to dictators tyrants to expel them from the WA, this proposal will simply be rejected (like mine).

So, the conclusion is clear:

You don't have to waste more time (it's not easy) to create new proposal, it's more easy to destroy them... because no one in NS will protect the law's complianced.

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Thank you very much for your attention.

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Postby Fauxia » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:42 am

Insulting those who don't support your proposal is a real good way of getting them to support
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Postby Willania Imperium » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:55 am

Catlander wrote:Dear members of World Assembly:

This condemnation proposal against a nation member of WA (which violated several resolutions on Civil and Human Rights, etc.etc.) has been rejected. And that allows this dictatorial nation to join efforts with other similar so that altogether reject and skip all the legality they want. Really this is becoming a "Sin City".

The immediate consequence is that whoever wants to make a resolution must know that nobody will watch over its compliance and, of course ... if it proves annoying to dictators tyrants to expel them from the WA, this proposal will simply be rejected (like mine).

So, the conclusion is clear:

You don't have to waste more time (it's not easy) to create a new proposal, it's easier to destroy them... because no one in NS will protect the law's complianced.

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All roleplay is virtual but it need rules to play it, and these rules need someone to protect it. This does not exist currently here.

Thank you very much for your attention.

Catlander


Oh, stop it with the hokey acting! It's not like we don't give a damn about the WA!

It's just that we use condemnations to "reward" those whose bad actions are extraordinary, like raiding.You were attempting to use it for effects of issues that very few of us see, using RP as your main focus, and utilizing weak and ineffective clauses in it, making it a shite proposal!

We have many people making good proposals, and many of them passing. However, yours were banking on RP, a shaky topic to place your proposal on, while others were using more sturdy topics to base their proposal on, which made them more likely to pass.

In summary, the reason yours didn't pass was not that we don't give a damn about the WA, but because you were utilizing a shaky topic that doesn't get proposals easy on a format that rarely truly does "condemn." And don't blame us for it! It will bite you in the long run and make you look like a bitter guy!

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Postby Catlander » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:37 am

Don't worry about it. Few things will happen to become myself a bitter guy. In spite of that this is a good game.

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