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[Rejected] Condemn Mourinholand

Postby Catlander » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:22 am

Condemn Mourinholand


Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Mourinholand | Proposed By: Catlander


The Security Council,

UNDERSTANDING that all the nations could to have reason to do extreme policies againts their population and treats to their region.

NOTING that Mourinholand violated the following Human & Civil rights Resolutions solved in General Assembly:

#4 Restrictions on Child Labour
#7 Workplace Safety Standard Act
#9 Torture
#23 Ban of Slavery Traffic

FURTHER NOTING that Mourinholand executes the poets and homeless people, the life expectancy is less 30 years old, their leader spreads napalm to clean the forest or treat to use nuclear arms againts their neighbours and many other cruelties.

BELIEVING that Mourinholand should not continue in the World Assembly like as a member by their horrible acts.

HEREBY Condemns Mourinholand
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:04 pm

RP condemnations are very difficult to pass, though not inpossible, but this needs work if you want it to go somewhere
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Postby Catlander » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:24 am

I have read all the resolutions on human rights (noticed above) that every nation must contemplate to stand like WA member.

I appeal to rest of the SC nations to abide by these passed resolutions to condemn the accused. I remember to everybody that those Human Rights resolutions of SC are compulsory for all.

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Postby Willania Imperium » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:26 am

I'm sorry to say this, but I just don't see the reason why? It's mostly RP where it violates the proposals, but it's a small RP that very few actually recognize. Plus, one clause is basically a rip-off a nation's results to the Issues. That is something very few really give a damn about. Plus, the idea of condemnations is quite different in the eyes of most voters than in your eyes. Most of us see them as "badges if Honor" given out to those whose actions are starkingly amazing but can't be commended through normal means. As such, I don't see the target of doing anything bad that can get it. As such, I am fiercely "Against" it.

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Postby Catlander » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:45 am

But... no one is going to take seriously the violation of the our laws of SC?. How we will going to take our passed resolutions seriously then?

This is an intolerable shame!. I demand an explanation from the WA authorities.

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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:52 am

If you gave an SC condemnation to mourinland it would seriously devalue every other condemnation. Almost every single condemnation has been given for raiding and the system can be summed as being "bad with style". If someone wants to play as a dictatorship why should we stop them? Doing this sort of thing would alienate the many players who enjoy being tyrannical and wish to play in the WA.
Catlander wrote:But... no one is going to take seriously the violation of the our laws of SC?. How we will going to take our passed resolutions seriously then?

This is an intolerable shame!. I demand an explanation from the WA authorities.

I admit I am not the WA authorities but violating GA laws is not grounds for a condemnation. Once I misclicked on an issue and made divorce illegal. This is against a resolution but I doubt anyone would see it as grounds to permanently mark my nation as condemned.
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Postby Catlander » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:34 am

@kenmoria

All resolutions passed are the result of our GA democracy. All member nations solemnly voted to abide by them (too its effects). If some nation doesn't like a resolution ever can to try change it.

Thus, If we do not do this... what is the WA for?
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:39 am

ICly, Tinhampton is for due to the arguments made right over here back in August.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:48 am

Catlander wrote:@kenmoria

All resolutions passed are the result of our GA democracy. All member nations solemnly voted to abide by them (too its effects). If some nation doesn't like a resolution ever can to try change it.

Thus, If we do not do this... what is the WA for?

The WA is for role playing and creating international laws for fun. It is not to go around condemning everyone due to what they want to do with their nation.
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Postby Catlander » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:08 pm

@Tinhampton your link failed

@Kenmoria I understand it, but that's not right.

Since that you agree to become a member of the WA, the passed resolutions will affect your nation. Consider that if many nations can do bad things without control, we will also let them vote as much as they want in the WA in resolutions that will affect our nations. Think about it.

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Postby Manaime » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:01 pm

Catlander wrote:Condemn Mourinholand


Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Mourinholand | Proposed By: Catlander


The Security Council,

UNDERSTANDING that all the nations could to have reason to do extreme policies againts their population and treats to their region.

NOTING that Mourinholand violated the following Human & Civil rights Resolutions solved in General Assembly:

#4 Restrictions on Child Labour
#7 Workplace Safety Standard Act
#9 Torture
#23 Ban of Slavery Traffic

FURTHER NOTING that Mourinoland executes the poets and homeless people, the life expectancy is less 30 years old, their goverment spreads napalm to clean the forest or treat to use nuclear arms againts their neighbours and many other cruelties.

BELIEVING that Mourinholand should not continue in the World Assembly like as a member by their horrible acts.

HEREBY Condemns Mourinholand


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Postby Oresland » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:22 pm

Manaime wrote:
Catlander wrote:Condemn Mourinholand


Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Mourinholand | Proposed By: Catlander


FURTHER NOTING that Mourinoland executes the poets and homeless people, the life expectancy is less 30 years old, their goverment spreads napalm to clean the forest or treat to use nuclear arms againts their neighbours and many other cruelties.

Fix your spelling errors before even making an action on the WA page.


"Neighbour" is correctly spelled, at least for the British.

On the other hand, this is all RP'ing. If the WA stripped nations of their membership because of "violating" some resolutions (even accidentally), then condemnations would really lose their value. Our nation will be Against this proposal.
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Postby Manaime » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:25 pm

Oresland wrote:
Manaime wrote:Fix your spelling errors before even making an action on the WA page.


"Neighbour" is correctly spelled, at least for the British.

On the other hand, this is all RP'ing. If the WA stripped nations of their membership because of "violating" some resolutions (even accidentally), then condemnations would really lose their value. Our nation will be Against this proposal.


Apparently, "neighbour" is not even a word. The correct spelling is "neighbor". Understand the difference?

{BTW, my computer is going too crazy as for underlining the word "neighbour" in red. >_>]
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Postby Oresland » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:34 pm

Manaime wrote:
Oresland wrote:
"Neighbour" is correctly spelled, at least for the British.

On the other hand, this is all RP'ing. If the WA stripped nations of their membership because of "violating" some resolutions (even accidentally), then condemnations would really lose their value. Our nation will be Against this proposal.


Apparently, "neighbour" is not even a word. The correct spelling is "neighbor". Understand the difference?

{BTW, my computer is going too crazy as for underlining the word "neighbour" in red. >_>]


Oxford dictionary says it's a word:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/neighbour
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Postby Catlander » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:50 am

I have already made all the necessary corrections, but not in relation to the term "neighbours"

We the nations we shall change all resolutions we need (repealing too) into the World Assembly democratic rules ever we want, indeed.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:17 am

Catlander wrote:We the nations we shall change all resolutions we need (repealing too) into the World Assembly democratic rules ever we want, indeed.

IC: What will these "World Assembly democratic rules" entail?
OOC: Hmmm... you are aware that you have to repeal WA laws to replace them, right?
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Postby Catlander » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:41 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Catlander wrote:We the nations we shall change all resolutions we need (repealing too) into the World Assembly democratic rules ever we want, indeed.

IC: What will these "World Assembly democratic rules" entail?
OOC: Hmmm... you are aware that you have to repeal WA laws to replace them, right?

1. I told before that all WA resolutions need to do by members who will respect it; otherwise the WA will be unable seriously.
2.Abso!utely. That's the democracy.

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Postby The Atlae Isles » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:10 pm

Condemnations are usually more reserved for regional/world contributions (or the opposite thereof), not enforcing compliance. That's what the WACC is for.

Also, the SC cannot eject anybody from the WA. Only mods can do that.
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I'm going to have to echo the opinions of the others in this discussion. Answering issues is hardly special. If you would like to condemn a nation for flagrantly disregarding the laws of the World Assembly, I'd like to see an extensive history of doing so, with rich in-character (RP) examples of how they've decided to flaunt their treachery.
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Postby Catlander » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:29 am

Right now you can to agree the CP in the Security Council

We need to save the mourinhists children !

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=catlander_1505899372

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Postby Catlander » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:33 am

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Ahhhhm, alright!. alright!. Pay attention please: maybe Mourinholand break 4 resolutions ONLY it could be considered a legal nonsense, a silly joke, a knick-knack legal snack pack, etc. etc. but a man need to be part of all Humanity and the rights of one need to be preserve by the right of the others. Listen the words of the judge Dan Haywood about this matter:

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Postby The Atlae Isles » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:05 pm

Condemnations only give people a shiny badge. It does not kick them out of the WA. (R3)

Did you read any of the criticism? They are simply not condemnable.
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Postby Ransium » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:14 pm

I think it's legal, it doesn't say the target nation will be removed from the WA, just that the WASC believes they should be.

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Postby Aclion » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:27 pm

Ransium wrote:I think it's legal, it doesn't say the target nation will be removed from the WA, just that the WASC believes they should be.

Its sort of absurd though from an IC pov, since theres no way for members to be removed.
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