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Postby Drasnia » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:46 am

Commend Ransium
Category: Commendation | Nominee: Ransium | Proposed by: Drasnia


The Security Council,

Asserting that many nations in the multiverse are drawn to regional office, but few truly excel and thrive while in it;

Believing Ransium to be one of those select few who has surpassed every expectation and effected great change in the world through exceptional and extraordinary leadership;

Observing that Ransium has been Forest's World Assembly Delegate for over ten years and during that time has overseen and led much of its growth;

Noting that upon Ransium becoming Delegate, Forest had a population of under 20 nations, an order of magnitude smaller than the present population;

Extolling Ransium for recognizing Forest's susceptibility to attack from outside forces and taking necessary measures to ensure the community's future security;

Amazed at Ransium's leadership in Forest through fostering a community that attracts many great nations and which led to the region's commendation in SC# 219;

Impressed at the Regional Constitution Ransium drafted for Forest at the behest of other region members in order to formalize and standardize the regional government structure and produce more stability for the region;

Awed at the Forest Greenness Index Ransium created for Forest and subsequently released for all nations in the multiverse to use, which compares the policies of nations and how they affect the environment;

Applauding Ransium for their efforts in drafting and passing GAR#403 "Trade of Endangered Species" which sought to stop the illegal smuggling of endangered organisms in World Assembly member nations;

Recognizing that Ransium has sought to bring international attention to other worthy individuals and regions through the passing of SC#221 "Commend Yggdrasil," SC#224 "Commend Drasnia," and SC#233 "Commend Zwangzug";

Lauding Ransium for bringing four issues of national importance to attention:
  • Wildfire prevention through Only Leader Can Prevent Forest Fires;
  • Bird migration patterns and population decline through Songbirds' Decline Ruffles Feathers;
  • International counter-terrorism through A Cloak and Syringe Operation; and
  • Vaccination education and disease awareness through A Sickening Dilemma;
Convinced that Ransium is one of the brightest and longest-lasting examples of leadership in the whole of NationStates and that all nations should strive to be like it;

Hereby commends Ransium
Commend Ransium
Category: Commendation | Nominee: Ransium | Proposed by: Drasnia


The Security Council,

Asserting that many nations in the multiverse are drawn to regional office, but few truly excel and thrive while in it;

Believing Ransium to be one of those select few who has surpassed every expectation and effected great change in the world through exceptional and extraordinary leadership;

Observing that Ransium has been Forest's World Assembly Delegate for over ten years and during that time has overseen and led much of its growth;

Noting that upon Ransium becoming Delegate, Forest had a population of under 20 nations, an order of magnitude smaller than the present population;

Bittersweet that one of Ransium's first major acts as Delegate was to lead a fractured region that was susceptible to attack from outside militaries into temporarily dissolving formal governance and realigning permanent administration in order to create a more secure and healthier community;

Amazed at Ransium's leadership in Forest through fostering a community that attracts many great nations and which led to Forest's commendation in SC# 219;

Impressed at the Regional Constitution Ransium drafted for Forest at the behest of other region members in order to formalize and standardize the regional government structure and produce more stability for Forest;

Awed at the Forest Greenness Index Ransium created for Forest and subsequently released for all nations in the multiverse to use, which compares the policies of nations and how they affect the environment;

Applauding Ransium for their efforts in drafting and passing GAR#403: Trade of Endangered Species which sought to stop the illegal smuggling of endangered organisms in World Assembly member nations;

Lauding Ransium for bringing four issues of national importance to attention, which include:
  • Wildfire prevention through Only Leader Can Prevent Forest Fires;
  • Bird migration patterns and population decline through Songbirds Decline Ruffles Feathers;
  • International counter-terrorism through A Cloak and Syringe Operation; and
  • Vaccination education and disease awareness through A Sickening Dilemma;
Convinced that Ransium is one of the brightest and longest-lasting examples of leadership in the whole of NationStates and that all nations should strive to be like it;

Hereby commends Ransium
Commend Ransium
Category: Commendation | Nominee: Ransium | Proposed by: Drasnia


The Security Council,

Asserting that many nations in the multiverse are drawn to regional office, but few truly excel and thrive while in it;

Believing Ransium to be one of those select few who has surpassed every expectation and effected great change in the world through exceptional and extraordinary leadership;

Observing that Ransium has been Forest's World Assembly Delegate for over ten years and during that time has overseen and led much of its growth;

Noting that upon Ransium becoming Delegate, Forest had a population of under 20 nations, an order of magnitude smaller than the present population;

Bittersweet that one of Ransium's first major acts as Delegate was to lead regionmates in temporarily disbanding Forest in order to rejoin with a more active and secure administration;

Amazed at Ransium's leadership in Forest through fostering a community that attracts many great nations and which led to Forest's commendation in SC# 219;

Impressed at the Regional Constitution Ransium drafted for Forest at the behest of other region members in order to formalize and standardize the regional government structure and produce more stability for Forest;

Awed at the Forest Greenness Index Ransium created for Forest and subsequently released for all nations in the multiverse to use, which compares the policies of nations and how they affect the environment;

Applauding Ransium for their efforts in drafting and passing GAR#403: Trade of Endangered Species which sought to stop the illegal smuggling of endangered organisms in World Assembly member nations;

Lauding Ransium for bringing four issues of national importance to attention, which include:
  • Wildfire prevention through Only Leader Can Prevent Forest Fires;
  • Bird migration patterns and population decline through Songbirds Decline Ruffles Feathers;
  • International counter-terrorism through A Cloak and Syringe Operation; and
  • Vaccination education and disease awareness through A Sickening Dilemma;
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Convinced that Ransium is one of the brightest and longest-lasting examples of leadership in the whole of NationStates and that all national leaders should strive to be like it;

Hereby commends Ransium

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Postby Wrapper » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:49 am

Drasnia wrote:Since R1 has been changed to allow for C&Cing IEs for things that happened before they joined the editing team, I didn't want really worthy people like Ransium to be honored by low effort and low quality badge hunters.

I did confirm, all four issues you mentioned were pre-IE-hood.

What I haven't looked at (no time, sorry) is, have you made sure you didn't duplicate anything listed in SC#219? The Amazed clause itself is fine, I'm talking about any other clauses about what Ransium's done for the region.

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Postby Consular » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:54 am

Instead of listing precisely four could you not say something vague like "many"? Or would that be interpreted as potentially including illegal content?

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Postby Wrapper » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:08 am

Consular wrote:Instead of listing precisely four could you not say something vague like "many"? Or would that be interpreted as potentially including illegal content?

Something that vague would likely be illegal under the ruling because it could apply to work done while an IE.

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Postby Drasnia » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:38 am

Wrapper wrote:
Consular wrote:Instead of listing precisely four could you not say something vague like "many"? Or would that be interpreted as potentially including illegal content?

Something that vague would likely be illegal under the ruling because it could apply to work done while an IE.

Definitely. If I listed those four and used a word like "Including," that would imply that there are more, but the only ones left are after becoming an IE. I'd rather

Wrapper wrote:
Drasnia wrote:Since R1 has been changed to allow for C&Cing IEs for things that happened before they joined the editing team, I didn't want really worthy people like Ransium to be honored by low effort and low quality badge hunters.

I did confirm, all four issues you mentioned were pre-IE-hood.

What I haven't looked at (no time, sorry) is, have you made sure you didn't duplicate anything listed in SC#219? The Amazed clause itself is fine, I'm talking about any other clauses about what Ransium's done for the region.
Here's the only clause that specifically mentions him in SC#219:
Amazed that though they lost their original founder early in their existence, they persevered under the leadership of Ransium, and have been a bastion of democracy for others,


Everything else is extremely vague (most likely quite intentionally), so I don't see much of a problem with duplication.
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Postby Aclion » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:20 pm

I probably don't need to tell you that I support this; on to proposal.

Bittersweet that one of Ransium's first major acts as Delegate was to lead regionmates in temporarily disbanding Forest in order to rejoin with a more active and secure administration;

This is awkwardly worded. The issue is that the subject, the security council, is not bittersweet here. It would be the act that is bittersweet. I would use some variation of
Applauding Ransium's leadership and foresight in temporarily disbanding Forest in order to rejoin with a more active and secure administration

Convinced that Ransium is one of the brightest and longest-lasting examples of leadership in the whole of NationStates and that all national leaders should strive to be like it;

It's strange to me to suggest that national leaders should be asked to follow the example of a nation.

Drasnia wrote:Everything else is extremely vague (most likely quite intentionally), so I don't see much of a problem with duplication.

I do see a reference to the greenness index in forests commendation, but no reference to it being made by Ransium.
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Postby Mount Seymour » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:24 pm

The Greenness Index was originally developed by Ransium on the Forest RMB, and is now maintained here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=835348 However, I don't believe it was ever officially "released to the world", though of course if anyone finds it they're welcome to use it :P

Also: is there a more straightforward (or at least less misleading) way to talk about refounding? To me right now it sounds as if Ransium closed down Forest (not good) only to later bring the community back together... Sorry I can't think of any alternate suggestions right now :p
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Postby Consular » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:24 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Consular wrote:Instead of listing precisely four could you not say something vague like "many"? Or would that be interpreted as potentially including illegal content?

Something that vague would likely be illegal under the ruling because it could apply to work done while an IE.

Aye I figured. Very well.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:23 am

Nice one. Though I was writing one myself....
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:24 am

And it almost looks like tit for tat. Ransom commend you,you commend ransom (you said that yourself)
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:37 pm

My only question is why Ransium's two SC resolutions haven't been mentioned.
With or without them mentioned, I support this

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Postby Willania Imperium » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:58 pm

Well, it seems to be written very well, and since you have written many successful SC proposals...

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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:45 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:My only question is why Ransium's two SC resolutions haven't been mentioned.
With or without them mentioned, I support this

I was wondering that too.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:50 pm

Drasnia wrote:I didn't want really worthy people like Ransium to be honored by low effort and low quality badge hunters.

huh.
Drasnia wrote:It's been a long time since I tried drafting something in the Security Council. Since R1 has been changed to allow for C&Cing IEs for things that happened before they joined the editing team,

No not really. You co-authored Repeal "Condemn Gest".
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:01 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Drasnia wrote:I didn't want really worthy people like Ransium to be honored by low effort and low quality badge hunters.

huh.
Drasnia wrote:It's been a long time since I tried drafting something in the Security Council. Since R1 has been changed to allow for C&Cing IEs for things that happened before they joined the editing team,

No not really. You co-authored Repeal "Condemn Gest".
Co-authoring doesn't usually count for much, that just means you influenced the draft enough to be recognized.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:08 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:huh.

No not really. You co-authored Repeal "Condemn Gest".
Co-authoring doesn't usually count for much, that just means you influenced the draft enough to be recognized.

Dras gave me some good tips on my proposal when I was first drafting it - enough that I felt justified putting their name on it.
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Postby Consular » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:50 am

I found no spelling/grammar/anythingelse errors. Support.

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Postby Drasnia » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:45 pm

Sorry for being gone so long! I promise I won't do it again.
Lord Dominator wrote:My only question is why Ransium's two SC resolutions haven't been mentioned.
With or without them mentioned, I support this

During the course of writing it, I had originally framed the second half to talk about all the ways he had promoted environmentalism - the Greenness Index, his GA work, and his first two issues. Eventually though, I wanted to include all four pre-editor issues and I didn't want to make people who don't care much about environmentalism to vote against it. However remnants of my original plan do still exist, like not mentioning the SC. I purposefully didn't add it in later on because I didn't want to make it look like a huge conflict of interest.

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Drasnia wrote:It's been a long time since I tried drafting something in the Security Council. Since R1 has been changed to allow for C&Cing IEs for things that happened before they joined the editing team,

No not really. You co-authored Repeal "Condemn Gest".
What happened was I gave a few suggestions on how to phrase some stuff IC'ly on the GP Discord server. I guess Kaboom thought it was enough to warrant a credit. I didn't really care either way.
Consular wrote:I found no spelling/grammar/anythingelse errors. Support.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:04 pm

Drasnia wrote:Sorry for being gone so long! I promise I won't do it again.
Lord Dominator wrote:My only question is why Ransium's two SC resolutions haven't been mentioned.
With or without them mentioned, I support this

During the course of writing it, I had originally framed the second half to talk about all the ways he had promoted environmentalism - the Greenness Index, his GA work, and his first two issues. Eventually though, I wanted to include all four pre-editor issues and I didn't want to make people who don't care much about environmentalism to vote against it. However remnants of my original plan do still exist, like not mentioning the SC. I purposefully didn't add it in later on because I didn't want to make it look like a huge conflict of interest.

Fair enough. I still support this regardless.

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Postby Drasnia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:13 am

Any more comments?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:39 pm

Drasnia wrote:Any more comments?

None that I can think of

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:03 am

Convinced that Ransium is one of the brightest and longest-lasting examples of leadership in the whole of NationStates and that all national leaders should strive to be like it;


Does this sound like Ransium is an individual leader rather than a nation?
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Postby Aclion » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:57 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Convinced that Ransium is one of the brightest and longest-lasting examples of leadership in the whole of NationStates and that all national leaders should strive to be like it;


Does this sound like Ransium is an individual leader rather than a nation?

It does

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Postby Drasnia » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:03 pm

Second draft is out.

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Convinced that Ransium is one of the brightest and longest-lasting examples of leadership in the whole of NationStates and that all national leaders should strive to be like it;


Does this sound like Ransium is an individual leader rather than a nation?
This has been addressed.

I also tried to rewrite the Bittersweet clause to make it sound less like refounding a region itself is commendable, but rather his leadership in those trying times and the reasons behind it are what's commendable. I feel it reads a bit awkwardly so comments and suggestions would be most appreciated.
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Postby Zaolat » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:28 pm

It looks good to me, except I feel there's too much Forest related content that's perhaps better served for a Commend Forest. My preference would to remove unnecessary Forest references and replace it. As it is though, I won't vote no.
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