(Draft) Condemn Everysee

[The Old German Government]

Everysee is a regional member of the much larger region, The Black Hawks. They are responsible for the dissolution and attempted destruction of many regions, with an odd determination on removing the natives from power, regardless of the orders of The Black Hawks

NOTING that they have invaded multiple regions in a matter of days without orders, including Hail Stalin Remade Backup Region, The Brotherhood of Ashlake, and Apsurdoland in a matter of less than 7 days,

RECOGNIZING that they have destroyed 1 region, The Brotherhood of Ashlake, in this amount of time, having been defeated in Hail Stalin Remade Back Up Region and is currently raiding Apsurdoland,

REMEMBERING that no orders from their home region, The Black Hawks or Violet Irises were ever publicly given by any member of said region, and all members of both regions were not involved in the attack, showing that the attack was not coordinated,

PROPOSES:

a. That the nation of Everysee be condemned for their actions against the multiple regions they have invaded in the short amount of time shown,

b. That the nation of Everysee's actions be acknowledged by the general populace of other prominent nations,

HEREBY Condemns Everysee

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

No, just no. Enough with trying to condemn a raiding puppet. Enough with trying to condemn tag raids. Two of the regions have Founders so they can't be described as having been destroyed.

Give it up - it's got a snowball's chance in Hell of going anywhere, so stop wasting people's time.

[Kaboomlandia]

"If this is a condemnation, where's the one for Kaboomlandia for pulling off several more raids than this guy did?"

No support.

[The Old German Government]

No, just no. Enough with trying to condemn a raiding puppet. Enough with trying to condemn tag raids. Two of the regions have Founders so they can't be described as having been destroyed.

Give it up - it's got a snowball's chance in Hell of going anywhere, so stop wasting people's time.

I just figured since nothing was at vote I'd give it a shot.

[Jakker]

Hey that's my puppet. The citizens of Everysee can't help that they have the moves.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

No, just no. Enough with trying to condemn a raiding puppet. Enough with trying to condemn tag raids. Two of the regions have Founders so they can't be described as having been destroyed.

Give it up - it's got a snowball's chance in Hell of going anywhere, so stop wasting people's time.

I just figured since nothing was at vote I'd give it a shot.

Ah, so you decided the time was right for a poorly researched badge hunt. Good to know.

[Southern Astrania]

Official Response:


"If this Draft turns into a bill, and begins to be deliberated within the security council, Southern Astrania will immediately show dismay, and disapproval of the bill itself; following will be the nations involved in the creation of such, a long with its 'for' voters. We believe this is nothing short of a complete waste of International resources, and time. We have much larger, and more domestic things to worry about rather than some regions of the world being Militarily invaded. Our official response practically relies on the fact that, due to us having one of the most massive, and technologically advanced Militaries on the planet, we fear none; as we are self reliant, so we will be unsupportive of this act, so long as no nation attacks us."

Signed, April Sapoznikov, speaker on behalf of His Majesty, King William Bassett IV, Of Southern Astrania, to the World Assembly Security Council

[The Old German Government]

Official Response:


"If this Draft turns into a bill, and begins to be deliberated within the security council, Southern Astrania will immediately show dismay, and disapproval of the bill itself; following will be the nations involved in the creation of such, a long with its 'for' voters. We believe this is nothing short of a complete waste of International resources, and time. We have much larger, and more domestic things to worry about rather than some regions of the world being Militarily invaded. Our official response practically relies on the fact that, due to us having one of the most massive, and technologically advanced Militaries on the planet, we fear none; as we are self reliant, so we will be unsupportive of this act, so long as no nation attacks us."

Signed, April Sapoznikov, speaker on behalf of His Majesty, King William Bassett IV, Of Southern Astrania, to the World Assembly Security Council

We can not simply continue to sit here and stockpile Security Counsel resources, as all WA member nations have sat idle and motionless, without any SC vote appearing in quite some time, and a lack of proposals. I see no reason why raider nations, small or not, should not be condemned when the SC motto is: "Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary". This motto, in itself, should protect my resolution, with my resolution having the intention to spread peace and goodwill. With no 'much larger, more important' resolutions or even proposals at hand, the people of the world should have something to vote on, even if the impact is minuscule. That result will still greatly help those regions in which the nation in question had invaded. While this boast of 'one of the most massive, and technologically advanced Militaries on the planet', is impressive, this alone should not be the reason to shoot down this proposal. Almost all people in the world are not as well protected as you, and we need SC resolutions to help us function. To be fair, 'so long as no nation attacks us', should be reason for me to become angry. For the problems of the few but important should never come and overpower the problems of the many but not important.

Signed,
Hans Fredliches, official delegate for The Old German Government, speaking on behalf of Prime Minister Mark Sucker Burg and his counsel.

[Crazy girl]

Guys, at least he's trying. Less negativity, more being nice and encouraging new players and guiding them would be nice. Thanks.

[Melqart]

But how can it work, if Jakker said it was his puppet? I like the fact he's trying, but wouldn't it just give TBH even more advertising/publicity if one of it's leaders is condemned twice? I agree that more nations should be condemned/commended, but not this one. Why do I agree that more nations should be commended or condemned? I don't have much SC experience, but I've seen how bad/easy to write the first SC proposals were, and now it's gotten harder. The first proposals are only still around because they're historical. People want more information, which makes sense because there is more information, but it's hard to dig up that info. New nations can no longer write proposals, because they don't have the experience or help. All the SC is is criticism. I'll end this with this: Shouldn't there be a much higher rate of proposals, considering we have much more information? (Ex: There's more inventions now a days then the past) Lower the standards, they already are gradually lowering. (See: Condemn Canterlot and Condemn TGW.) Do you understand what I mean?

[Drasnia]

But how can it work, if Jakker said it was his puppet? I like the fact he's trying, but wouldn't it just give TBH even more advertising/publicity if one of it's leaders is condemned twice? I agree that more nations should be condemned/commended, but not this one. Why do I agree that more nations should be commended or condemned? I don't have much SC experience, but I've seen how bad/easy to write the first SC proposals were, and now it's gotten harder. The first proposals are only still around because they're historical. People want more information, which makes sense because there is more information, but it's hard to dig up that info. New nations can no longer write proposals, because they don't have the experience or help. All the SC is is criticism. I'll end this with this: Shouldn't there be a much higher rate of proposals, considering we have much more information? (Ex: There's more inventions now a days then the past) Lower the standards, they already are gradually lowering. (See: Condemn Canterlot and Condemn TGW.) Do you understand what I mean?

The problem with the SC isn't that we have too high of standards. The SC is frequented by almost exclusively gameplayers and so nearly everybody in GP that should be C&Cd already has. There are tons of roleplayers, GAers, issue writers that probably should but there are so few people around the SC that have any interest in writing those resolutions. Instead of lowering our standards, we should instead be looking at broadening or horizons.

There are other considerations as well for why some people won't get C&Cd. For example, most worthy issue writers with enough pedigree that a resolution could be written end up getting snatched up by the editing team. This role then our ad nominees for anything to do with issues because of rule 1. I imagine there's a similar predicament in the GA because of the secretariat.

Condemn Canterlot was an awful resolution that didn't get any stacking against at the beginning and many people voted for ironically because of its quality and target. Condemn TGW was personally motivated legal flamebait that TGW took on their characteristic good humor.

You need to understand voting behavior. In both bodies of the WA most voters don't read the resolution or at least don't know much about what they read. In the GA these costs can at least vote with their ideology. In the SC, they're isn't nearly as much ideology other than defenders for and raiders evil, so a lot of voters think that of this made out to vote they're more likely to be worthy of the honor than not. Quality control is important in this situation. So while I agree more people need to be recognized, I don't think lowering our standards is the way to go. Instead, we should be reaching out to other parts of ns to see who there is well regarded by the community.

EDIT: Clarified a couple of poorly-constructed sentences, fixed grammar and spelling

[Melqart]

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You're right that we should open up our horizons, but also we need to work together more. If all the SC regulars were helping and co-authoring one resolution at a time. Think of what we could do! That would be amazing. Unibot's list of ideas for resolutions would be finished in no time. Remember The Security Council? That was "The Golden Age"! We need something like that! It could even be the SC forum! We've got to fix the SC. The last time a group of SC regulars got together to make a resolution was maybe Renaissancistic People (SC #214), and the time before that was maybe Condemn The Pacific. (SC 177) Yes, broaden on horizons, yes, be more inclusive, yes work together, MAKE THE SC GREAT AGAIN. CO-AUTHOR THINGS NOW!!!!

I used to not read resolutions, too, and I don't read GA resolutions.

This might be a bit off-topic, though.

[The Old German Government]

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Agreed. However I wont post this specific resolution to the SC.

[Melqart]

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You're right that we should open up our horizons, but also we need to work together more. If all the SC regulars were helping and co-authoring one resolution at a time. Think of what we could do! That would be amazing. Unibot's list of ideas for resolutions would be finished in no time. Remember The Security Council? That was "The Golden Age"! We need something like that! It could even be the SC forum! We've got to fix the SC. The last time a group of SC regulars got together to make a resolution was maybe Renaissancistic People (SC #214), and the time before that was maybe Condemn The Pacific. (SC 177) Yes, broaden on horizons, yes, be more inclusive, yes work together, MAKE THE SC GREAT AGAIN. CO-AUTHOR THINGS NOW!!!!

I used to not read resolutions, too, and I don't read GA resolutions.

This might be a bit off-topic, though.

I believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said, "I house divided against itself cannot stand", and we are certainly acting divided. It's war (Edit: Orginally said "was", not "war", and Abraham Lincoln was not around to post on the NS forums.) in the SC forum, in my opinion. Franklin drew this, too:



Might have gone as a threat to the colonists, now that I think about it.

[Unibot III]

I think the idea of a new region for SC authors is a great idea! People like Melqart who are interested in making one should do it (Perhaps he could co-found with someone?) 'The Security Council' was a fine community for vetting when it existed. I regret the Rule IV crisis breaking the community apart - that divide hurt the institution's development early on, imo.

EDIT: I suggest "The Three Walled Bar." Heh. Or you could ask Topid to revive the SC region. Or you could always make Confederation of Stars, a SC region. (I did that with Eastern Islands of Dharma back in the day. )

[Consular]

Poor three walled bar. It never gets any attention