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Commend Tsunamy

A chamber dedicated to the dissemination of inter-regional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary.

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:09 pm

NationHelper wrote:THIS IS NOT A BADGE HUNT. IF I WAS LOOKING FOR A BADGE, I WOULD HAVE DONE A LIBERATION.

The fact you have to say it again without anyone mentioning it (in red caps too) doesn't go over well to the average watcher ;)
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:10 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
NationHelper wrote:THIS IS NOT A BADGE HUNT. IF I WAS LOOKING FOR A BADGE, I WOULD HAVE DONE A LIBERATION.

The fact you have to say it again without anyone mentioning it (in red caps too) doesn't go over well to the average watcher ;)

I can confirm this, though I might not be an entirely average watcher.

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Postby NationHelper » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:27 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
NationHelper wrote:THIS IS NOT A BADGE HUNT. IF I WAS LOOKING FOR A BADGE, I WOULD HAVE DONE A LIBERATION.

The fact you have to say it again without anyone mentioning it (in red caps too) doesn't go over well to the average watcher ;)
Ridersyl wrote:This smells of badge hunt.

You're saying no one mentioned it?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:29 pm

NationHelper wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:The fact you have to say it again without anyone mentioning it (in red caps too) doesn't go over well to the average watcher ;)
Ridersyl wrote:This smells of badge hunt.

You're saying no one mentioned it?

Except that that mention was on the second page and a week and a day ago, which is not exactly recent for a thread/proposal that hasn't yet existed for two weeks.

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Postby NationHelper » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:31 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
NationHelper wrote:You're saying no one mentioned it?

Except that that mention was on the second page and a week and a day ago, which is not exactly recent for a thread/proposal that hasn't yet existed for two weeks.

Oh.... Your right..... Sorry......

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Postby Consular » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:20 pm

Ridersyl wrote:Here's some advice. The latest draft is very disjointed from a reader's perspective. Try to make the words flow better.

I did try to give him some advice on clarity of expression. He seems to have ignored it. :(

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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:37 am

NationHelper wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Understanding that Tsunamy always plays a major role in the WA, and has called the shots on some very close proposals, including:
-Condemn Elite Region of Global Command
-Repeal: Liberate Eternal Scholars,

Really? Please explain how they have called the shots.

They were very close resolutions.

Ok, so who has more influence on an outcome, a Delegate with 400 endos or one with 500 (TWP) or 600 (TP) or nearly 1300 (TNP) endos? To say that Tsu was calling the shots on these proposals is utter crap.
NationHelper wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Knowing that Tsunamy created TSP's Council on Regional Security. This has helped increase security, and honors respected members of TSP, who are the only ones that can join, based on the rules of the joining:
-World Assembly membership in The South Pacific;
-a Soft Power Disbursement Score of at least 50000
or an Influence Ranking of at least Vassal;
-at least 200 endorsements or half the endorsements of the Delegate;
-and six consecutive months of legislator status, or at least two terms in the Local Council;

Not sure if this is R4 compliant - makes it sound too much like a game.

Perhaps if I worded it differently?

Perhaps if you got rid of it all together. What extra does telling us the rules bring to this proposal? Nothing.

NationHelper wrote:THIS IS NOT A BADGE HUNT. IF I WAS LOOKING FOR A BADGE, I WOULD HAVE DONE A LIBERATION.

Statements like that are not going to help your cause.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby NationHelper » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:33 am

NationHelper wrote:The Security Council,

Acknowledging that Tsunamy has played a major role in TSP, and even created, The Local Council (LC), which expanded the scope of democracy by allowing more nations to vote,

Knowing that Tsunamy was the mastermind behind TSP council on Regional Security, which played a key role in stopping invasions in TSP, and also honors influential nations in TSP, who are the only nations that can participate,

Applauding that Tsunamy can run a strong, stable democracy without restricting rights, while leaving it fairly necrotic, so not to diminish the power of previous delegates,

Noting that Tsunamy has been active in TSP for 14 years, in which Tsunamy ensured stability, activity, and success, and has had a variety of positions in TSP, including:
-Minister of Foreign Affairs
-Director of Intelligence
-Delegate (Twice); In which Tsunamy created new flags, amended election laws, Endorsed everyone Tsunamy could, and reformed the government as well as Tsunamy could
-Member of TSP's Council on Regional Security; In Which Tsunamy stopped a coup in 2013, 2016, and
-Spearhead of The South Pacifician Journalism; In which Tsunamy devoted time to gain NS news and broadcast it publicly;
-Administrator of TSPs forums, a gathering place for nations to discuss matters diplomatically, after the coup,

Amazed at Tsunamys dedication to settle debates diplomatically and rationally,

Noting that Tsunamy has been in TSP since 2003 and has spread democracy throughout the world,

Appalled that Tsunamy hasn't even been attempted to be commended yet, and the WA should recognize those who ensure world piece,

Hereby commends Tsunamy for inclusiveness, kindness, and bravery

Reworded.
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Postby Roavin » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:52 am

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Postby Zombogo » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:34 am

World piece? :clap:
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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:36 am

Consular wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:Here's some advice. The latest draft is very disjointed from a reader's perspective. Try to make the words flow better.

I did try to give him some advice on clarity of expression. He seems to have ignored it. :(

You know what? I'm going to agree with Consular. You keep getting advice but you keep ignoring it.

That's it as far as I'm concerned. White flag raised.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby NationHelper » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:53 am

Acknowledging that Tsunamy has played a major role in TSP, and even created, The Local Council (LC), which expanded the scope of democracy by allowing more nations to vote,

Knowing that Tsunamy was the mastermind behind TSP council on Regional Security, which played a key role in stopping invasions in TSP, and also honors influential nations in TSP, who are the only nations that can participate,

Applauding that Tsunamy can run a strong, stable democracy without restricting rights, while leaving it a necrocracy, so not to diminish the power of previous delegates,

Noting that Tsunamy has been active in TSP for 14 years, in which Tsunamy ensured stability, activity, and success, and has had a variety of positions in TSP, including:
-Minister of Foreign Affairs;
-Director of Intelligence;
-Delegate (Twice);
-Member of TSP's Council on Regional Security; In Which Tsunamy played a major roll in helping stop the XYZ Affairs coup(2003), The Milograd coup (2013), and the Hileville coup (2016)
-Spearhead of The South Pacifician Journalism; In which Tsunamy devoted time to gain NS news and broadcast it publicly;
-Administrator of TSPs forums, a gathering place for nations to discuss matters diplomatically, after the coup,

Amazed at Tsunamys dedication to settle debates diplomatically and rationally,

Noting that Tsunamy has been in TSP since 2003 and has spread democracy throughout the world,

Appalled that Tsunamy hasn't even been attempted to be commended yet, and the WA should recognize those who ensure world piece,

Hereby commends Tsunamy for inclusiveness, kindness, and bravery

Changed a little.
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:55 am

Japan strongly is against this.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:15 am

NationHelper wrote:Applauding that Tsunamy can run a strong, stable democracy without restricting rights, while leaving it fairly necrotic, so not to diminish the power of previous delegates,

Honestly I'm super confused on how to write a good SC commendation....


Well you've learnt how to write one that's dead and rotting! How did I miss that before....
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:21 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
NationHelper wrote:Applauding that Tsunamy can run a strong, stable democracy without restricting rights, while leaving it fairly necrotic, so not to diminish the power of previous delegates,

Honestly I'm super confused on how to write a good SC commendation....


Well you've learnt how to write one that's dead and rotting!

Pretty sure having a dead resolution requires one that was living in the first place... :p

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Postby NationHelper » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:50 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
NationHelper wrote:Applauding that Tsunamy can run a strong, stable democracy without restricting rights, while leaving it fairly necrotic, so not to diminish the power of previous delegates,

Honestly I'm super confused on how to write a good SC commendation....


Well you've learnt how to write one that's dead and rotting! How did I miss that before....

Oh.... Shoot a meant to say necrocracy.....

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:51 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Well you've learnt how to write one that's dead and rotting!

Pretty sure having a dead resolution requires one that was living in the first place... :p

I should have let him submit it with "necrotic" in it LD. I'm sure it would have caused a giggle or two. Or five.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:53 am

NationHelper wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Well you've learnt how to write one that's dead and rotting! How did I miss that before....

Oh.... Shoot a meant to say necrocracy.....

A system of government whereby the people are governed by the dead. Yeah, brilliant!
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Kitzerland » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:00 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
NationHelper wrote:Oh.... Shoot a meant to say necrocracy.....

A system of government whereby the people are governed by the dead. Yeah, brilliant!

Tsunamy is dead? I didn't even know he was sick...
terrible takes plz ignore

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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:01 am

Kitzerland wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:A system of government whereby the people are governed by the dead. Yeah, brilliant!

Tsunamy is dead? I didn't even know he was sick...

He would be if this passed. :)
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby NationHelper » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:06 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Kitzerland wrote:Tsunamy is dead? I didn't even know he was sick...

He would be if this passed. :)

Guess that's you saying it's still bad.....

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Postby NationHelper » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:37 am

Acknowledging that Tsunamy has played a major role in TSP, and even created, The Local Council (LC), which expanded the scope of democracy by allowing more nations to vote,

Knowing that Tsunamy was the mastermind behind TSP council on Regional Security, which played a key role in stopping invasions in TSP, and also honors influential nations in TSP, who are the only nations that can participate,

Applauding that Tsunamy can run a strong, stable democracy without restricting rights, while leaving it a necrocracy, so not to diminish the power of previous delegates,

Noting that Tsunamy has been active in TSP for 14 years, in which Tsunamy ensured stability, activity, and success, and has had a variety of positions in TSP, including:
-Minister of Foreign Affairs;
-Director of Intelligence;
-Delegate (Twice);
-Member of TSP's Council on Regional Security; In Which Tsunamy played a major roll in helping stop the XYZ Affairs coup(2003), The Milograd coup (2013), and the Hileville coup (2016)
-Spearhead of The South Pacifician Journalism; In which Tsunamy devoted time to gain NS news and broadcast it publicly;
-Administrator of TSPs forums, a gathering place for nations to discuss matters diplomatically, after the coup,

Amazed at Tsunamys dedication to settle debates diplomatically and rationally,

Noting that Tsunamy has been in TSP since 2003 and has spread democracy throughout the world,

Appalled that Tsunamy hasn't even been attempted to be commended yet, and the WA should recognize those who ensure world piece,

Hereby commends Tsunamy for inclusiveness, kindness, and bravery

Changed a little.

Please tell me what's bad about it.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:52 am

NationHelper wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:He would be if this passed. :)

Guess that's you saying it's still bad.....

Right, last bit of serious advice. You have two options as I see it.

Option 1: Submit as is and either watch it sink without trace or if by some miracle it reached quorum, see it get shot down in flames. As written it will not pass. I can't imagine Tsu voting for this, it is that badly written.

Option 2: Go away for a week, leave it be and then come back to it with some fresh ideas. At the moment you keep coming back to it like a scab. And like a scab if you pick at it, it won't get better. It will still be here, we'll still be here, Tsu will still be here.

Writing any WA proposal is a marathon, not a sprint.
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The West Pacific's Official Welshman, Astronomer and Old Fart
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby NationHelper » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:57 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
NationHelper wrote:Guess that's you saying it's still bad.....

Right, last bit of serious advice. You have two options as I see it.

Option 1: Submit as is and either watch it sink without trace or if by some miracle it reached quorum, see it get shot down in flames. As written it will not pass. I can't imagine Tsu voting for this, it is that badly written.

Option 2: Go away for a week, leave it be and then come back to it with some fresh ideas. At the moment you keep coming back to it like a scab. And like a scab if you pick at it, it won't get better. It will still be here, we'll still be here, Tsu will still be here.

Writing any WA proposal is a marathon, not a sprint.

I'm thinking option two, Although, I'd like to see a miracle......

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Postby NationHelper » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:59 am

NationHelper wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Right, last bit of serious advice. You have two options as I see it.

Option 1: Submit as is and either watch it sink without trace or if by some miracle it reached quorum, see it get shot down in flames. As written it will not pass. I can't imagine Tsu voting for this, it is that badly written.

Option 2: Go away for a week, leave it be and then come back to it with some fresh ideas. At the moment you keep coming back to it like a scab. And like a scab if you pick at it, it won't get better. It will still be here, we'll still be here, Tsu will still be here.

Writing any WA proposal is a marathon, not a sprint.

I'm thinking option two, Although, I'd like to see a miracle......

Yes.... I'll occupy myself with RP......

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