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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:17 am
by Insignificance
Wrapper wrote:Yes, you can have someone else submit it for you. They can credit you as the author at the end of the text; e.g. "Authored by Insignificance." Just remember that they, not you, will get the SC Author badge on their nation's page.


Ah, okay then. Thanks for clarifying that.

Wrapper wrote:If we're talking from a legality standpoint, that's not correct. The SC can be (and has been) used to condemn actions taken in an RP. That said, such condemnations aren't too popular nowadays; it looks like none have passed in at least the last four years.

If you want to give it a shot, take a look at this post and scroll down to "Role-Playing as an Evil Nation" to see such previous condemnations, and get an idea of what goes into such a condemnation. Just, you know, don't copy from them, of course.


I'll take a look when I get some free time. Thanks again!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:44 am
by Privilege Check
Does the Security Council ever do anything besides recommending nations be Condemned or Commended?

If not, can we recommend the Security Council be permanently disbanded?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:19 am
by Drasnia
Privilege Check wrote:Does the Security Council ever do anything besides recommending nations be Condemned or Commended?

It can "liberate" a region - strike down a password implemented by a delegate (but not a founder). There's been a bit of a lull in that area of the game for a while so there hasn't been a need for any liberations lately.

EDIT: Quoted the wrong part.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:20 am
by Wrapper
Privilege Check wrote:Does the Security Council ever do anything besides recommending nations be Condemned or Commended?

Yes, it can Commend/Condemn regions, as well as Liberate regions (remove a delegate-imposed password).

Privilege Check wrote:If not, can we recommend the Security Council be permanently disbanded?

I'll go out on a limb and say, no, not happening.

SC Judgement

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:40 pm
by Corruptius
what are the judgments for SC commendations/condemnations? what do you have to do to be commended/condemned?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:14 pm
by Frisbeeteria
Corruptius wrote:what are the judgments for SC commendations/condemnations? what do you have to do to be commended/condemned?

It's up to the players. Read the Passed Resolutions to see what worked. Read the [DEFEATED] proposals in the WA Archives to see what didn't work.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:21 pm
by Ransium
Frisbeeteria wrote:
Corruptius wrote:what are the judgments for SC commendations/condemnations? what do you have to do to be commended/condemned?

It's up to the players. Read the Passed Resolutions to see what worked. Read the [DEFEATED] proposals in the WA Archives to see what didn't work.


In addition, this might also be helpful.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:32 am
by Ever-Wandering Souls
Since when did the SC have a gen-sec like legal/illegal thing going on? I just noticed there were 4 proposals, then was confused to only see three....then saw this illegal tab? Did I miss an announcement? Is it automated? Are illegal ones sorted over there rather than just deleted now? Why does the "total" tab only say "3" when it says there are 3 "legal" and one "illegal" - the GA count is a sum, so I assume this should be too.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:24 am
by Frisbeeteria
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Since when did the SC have a gen-sec like legal/illegal thing going on?

The part that is visible to players is new, but SC enforcement is unchanged. Basically this new feature allows all moderators (not just Game Mods) to indicate when SC proposals are illegal. Since I was doing most of the removal work, assisted by Forum Mods Ransium and Wrapper in the Illegal SC proposals thread, [violet] agreed to port the GA tools over to the SC.

The SC rules are pretty simple, so we don't need a GenSec equivalent in this chamber. However, we thought it would be beneficial to proposal writers to see why SC proposals were being removed.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:34 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls
So does that mean they’re going to get a little explanation box on them?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:32 pm
by Wrapper
We've already asked Violet to provide the explanation box, but she hasn't gotten around to it yet. Holidays, you know. :)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:58 pm
by United Massachusetts
Now we can hold the global mod conspiracy accountable for their actions.

:p

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:50 pm
by Frisbeeteria
Wrapper wrote:We've already asked Violet to provide the explanation box, but she hasn't gotten around to it yet.

Looks like it's been implemented.

United Massachusetts wrote:Now we can hold the global mod conspiracy accountable for their actions.

In this one tiny corner of our duties, yes.

Elsewhere? .... muahahaHaHaHAHAHA!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:36 pm
by Corruptius
Why would you condemn nations for roleplaying evil? isn't that a bit unfair?
also, what counts as a "hateful ideology" if improperly defined, we would have a bias in an ideally unbiased body.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:54 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls
Corruptius wrote:Why would you condemn nations for roleplaying evil? isn't that a bit unfair?
also, what counts as a "hateful ideology" if improperly defined, we would have a bias in an ideally unbiased body.


Condemnations have, perhaps amusingly, evolved into more of a badge of honor than an actual OOC condemnation. Most condemnations are awarded to those who are "good at being bad." This goes for Gameplay-based condemnations as well. Generally, whether you're a raider or a roleplayer, you appreciate the condemnation, because it's recognizing you for being great at what you do. We've even seen repeal efforts to remove the condemnation of players found to be doing things like breaking site rules, because they no longer deserve to be recognized.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:34 pm
by He Qixin 2
" You cannot refer to the game, or events or actions in it, as part of a game."
What does this SC proposal rule mean?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:37 pm
by Lenlyvit
He Qixin 2 wrote:" You cannot refer to the game, or events or actions in it, as part of a game."
What does this SC proposal rule mean?

It means you can't refer to anything being part of a game, so you have to write a proposal as if its real life. You can't put "NationStates the game", or refer to anything technology that relates to the game like the servers.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:40 pm
by He Qixin 2
Lenlyvit wrote:
He Qixin 2 wrote:" You cannot refer to the game, or events or actions in it, as part of a game."
What does this SC proposal rule mean?

It means you can't refer to anything being part of a game, so you have to write a proposal as if its real life. You can't put "NationStates the game", or refer to anything technology that relates to the game like the servers.

yeah, but surely creating embassies isn't a violation of the rules right? or chatting in the game.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:43 pm
by Wrapper
Take a look at this guide to Rule 4. It goes into more detail about what terms are legal and illegal under Rule 4.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:02 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls
He Qixin 2 wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:It means you can't refer to anything being part of a game, so you have to write a proposal as if its real life. You can't put "NationStates the game", or refer to anything technology that relates to the game like the servers.

yeah, but surely creating embassies isn't a violation of the rules right? or chatting in the game.


Not violations of site rules - illegal to include in the text of an SC proposal.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:00 pm
by Industrial West Virginia
Can we refer to the forums inside of a proposal?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:10 pm
by Lenlyvit
Industrial West Virginia wrote:Can we refer to the forums inside of a proposal?

You can, but you need to be careful how you word it. Usually its just like "forum", "regional forum", stuff like that. But if you want to add flair, you could say "The regions Hallowed Halls" or some such thing.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:42 pm
by West Leas Oros
Is it legal to liberate a region solely on ideological grounds?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:51 am
by Wrapper
West Leas Oros wrote:Is it legal to liberate a region solely on ideological grounds?

There's nothing in the rules that says you can't.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:32 am
by Divitalia
Can a nation or region have a commendation repealed for a reason not related to the reason they were commended?