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Unibot III
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:37 am

Sedgistan wrote:That probably falls under the umbrella of Rule 3a - "In some circumstances rules violations may be legal to refer to in a proposal - you must always request a ruling prior to submission if you wish to do this."

Some things, like referring to Milograd's coups, or Cormac's delegacy of wherever, are innocuous and likely fine. Others, of which I'm sure we can all imagine plenty of examples, would get a firm "no chance" from Moderation.


Thanks Sedge, makes sense.
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Terra Animo
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Postby Terra Animo » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:13 am

Would a PSA pertaining to the well-being of nation’s citizens be appropriate for a SC declaration?

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Postby Rick Perry » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:42 pm

What is the point of condemning if it only gives the nation a badge?
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Postby Comfed » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:46 pm

Rick Perry wrote:What is the point of condemning if it only gives the nation a badge?

Recognition.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:46 pm

Rick Perry wrote:What is the point of condemning if it only gives the nation a badge?

It is recognition that a nation or region has managed to play the black hat for a long period of time.

Which is why the SC avoids rewarding players that have been puppet swept and had their main deleted.
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Thousand Branches
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Postby Thousand Branches » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:39 pm

Is there a separate list somewhere for the rules of SC declarations? Or is that just under the regular rules? I couldn’t find it if it is
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Postby Wayneactia » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:55 pm

Thousand Branches wrote:Is there a separate list somewhere for the rules of SC declarations? Or is that just under the regular rules? I couldn’t find it if it is

They follow the same standard rules as the Security Council.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:05 pm

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Thousand Branches wrote:Is there a separate list somewhere for the rules of SC declarations? Or is that just under the regular rules? I couldn’t find it if it is

They follow the same standard rules as the Security Council.

Ah thank you! Is there then a place that outlines what a declaration actually is in simple terms? Like what it does?
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Postby Wayneactia » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:07 pm

Thousand Branches wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:They follow the same standard rules as the Security Council.

Ah thank you! Is there then a place that outlines what a declaration actually is in simple terms? Like what it does?

None that I have seen. Sedge may be able to direct you further though as he has been handling the declarations side of things.
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:13 am

There isn't anything beyond the rules. I've been hoping someone might write a general (and unofficial) Guide to the SC, but the various attempts over the years haven't got anywhere.

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Postby Thousand Branches » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:16 pm

How do repeals work with declarations? How does relevant argument apply?
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Postby Wayneactia » Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:11 am

Thousand Branches wrote:How do repeals work with declarations? How does relevant argument apply?

You would argue the clauses of the declaration as any normal repeal?
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:09 am

Same as ever - "it must address the contents of the resolution it is repealing".

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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:24 pm

If I were to describe Big Jim P's marriage to a fellow NSer as:

Being the first nation that had an extra-dimensional alliance based on mutual love and understanding with another nation.

Would that be legal?
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:47 pm

I suspect there would be deep reluctance on the part of Moderators to allow anything that referred to personal characteristics of players and their personal lives. Same as when Tin's proposal Commending someone who had cancer got pulled.

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