[FAILED THEN PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Dank Memes"

[RiderSyl]

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Why do you persist?

[Tim-Opolis]

We're live. Looking forward to hopefully getting this to vote

[Wallenburg]

Full support for this.

[Willania Imperium]

We're now on the vote!

[Tim-Opolis]

I'd like to thank TNP for the rough start with this

[The Atlae Isles]

I'd like to thank TNP for the rough start with this

I read their opinion, and it's because you were "crediting" the regions and bringing attention to them, and that the repeal could have been improved and taken a lot more time. "We're in no hurry," they seemed to say.

[Altmoras]

I'd like to thank TNP for the rough start with this

I read their opinion, and it's because you were "crediting" the regions and bringing attention to them, and that the repeal could have been improved and taken a lot more time. "We're in no hurry," they seemed to say.

Yeah I don't really agree with that line of thought. Naming Nazi Europa and HYDRA Command in this particular resolution serves to differentiate the fact that while they both are (or were in HYDRA's case) invader regions, they aren't exactly pals. What would you call them without names, "raiders, and other raiders"? "occupying invaders and fascists"?

I certainly agree with the merit of not advertising for invading powers, my resolution SC #210 never names the invading power at all. However for this particular resolution I think it has its uses.

On another note, I've heard some concerns about this resolution concerning the less than positive light in which it portrays La Navasse. Normally I might take exception to calling the author out in such a fashion, but La Navasse names himself multiple times in the original resolution so I see no reason why the repeal shouldn't at least address him.

[Shemiki]

I admit, I do wonder why this resolution is failing. It seems perfectly fine.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I admit, I do wonder why this resolution is failing. It seems perfectly fine.

TNP's early stomp against may have influenced the individual vote. I've passed on my recommendations to BBB to put the TWP vote "For" the repeal.

[McMannia Times Six]

I read their opinion, and it's because you were "crediting" the regions and bringing attention to them, and that the repeal could have been improved and taken a lot more time. "We're in no hurry," they seemed to say.

Yeah I don't really agree with that line of thought. Naming Nazi Europa and HYDRA Command in this particular resolution serves to differentiate the fact that while they both are (or were in HYDRA's case) invader regions, they aren't exactly pals. What would you call them without names, "raiders, and other raiders"? "occupying invaders and fascists"?

I certainly agree with the merit of not advertising for invading powers, my resolution SC #210 never names the invading power at all. However for this particular resolution I think it has its uses.

On another note, I've heard some concerns about this resolution concerning the less than positive light in which it portrays La Navasse. Normally I might take exception to calling the author out in such a fashion, but La Navasse names himself multiple times in the original resolution so I see no reason why the repeal shouldn't at least address him.

I take offence at that "were"

[Benevolent Thomas]

I take offence at that "were"

Do you take it times six?

[The Normandian Empire]

I fully agree and support the Repealing of "Liberate Dank Memes"

[Consular]

I'd like to thank TNP for the rough start with this

I read their opinion, and it's because you were "crediting" the regions and bringing attention to them, and that the repeal could have been improved and taken a lot more time. "We're in no hurry," they seemed to say.

Yeah, that's nonsense ofc, like most of TNP's opinions.

Nobody will ever read the appeal again once it has passed. It's hardly an advertisement.

And this was not even remotely rushed. It had a full drafting discussion then Tim literally just left it sitting here for ages.

[Check-o-slow-vakki-uh]

What I'm most confused about is why no one seems to be bothering to argue against this bill in this thread. Obviously people don't like it, but no one's putting forward arguments to explain why in the place where it would be most relevant.

[Tim-Opolis]

Having spoken to TNP and knowing what changes would gain their vote, I'm confident we can get this with ease on a Take II

[Praetor00]

I don't usually post here but I shall considering that I am somewhat being discussed.

I simply choose not to post my arguments here but I do read the threads in their entirety. Should there be a resolution I find that I would support but I object to the contents I do my best to ensure my concerns are known to the author.

That being said, I have had a discussion with Tim and while I have not seen his draft should this resolution fail, my concerns have been assuaged and he has suggested wording I personally find acceptable.

[The Boorah Tribe]

If this really is a stop to the original owner reclaiming it and it isnt actually liberation. Im voting for if it actually is a liberation movement im voting against.

[Altmoras]

Yeah I don't really agree with that line of thought. Naming Nazi Europa and HYDRA Command in this particular resolution serves to differentiate the fact that while they both are (or were in HYDRA's case) invader regions, they aren't exactly pals. What would you call them without names, "raiders, and other raiders"? "occupying invaders and fascists"?

I certainly agree with the merit of not advertising for invading powers, my resolution SC #210 never names the invading power at all. However for this particular resolution I think it has its uses.

On another note, I've heard some concerns about this resolution concerning the less than positive light in which it portrays La Navasse. Normally I might take exception to calling the author out in such a fashion, but La Navasse names himself multiple times in the original resolution so I see no reason why the repeal shouldn't at least address him.

I take offence at that "were"

A simple glance at the region page is enough to remember that HYDRA Command is a thing of the past.

[Tim-Opolis]

I take offence at that "were"

A simple glance at the region page is enough to remember that HYDRA Command is a thing of the past.

I would request you folks take discussion about a long-dead organization, outside of matters specifically related to its mention in the draft, to the Gameplay forum. Perhaps McMannia can find Hydra's thread somewhere around Page 20.

[Altmoras]

A simple glance at the region page is enough to remember that HYDRA Command is a thing of the past.

I would request you folks take discussion about a long-dead organization, outside of matters specifically related to its mention in the draft, to the Gameplay forum. Perhaps McMannia can find Hydra's thread somewhere around Page 20.

I didn't want to gravedig.

[McMannia Times Six]

A simple glance at the region page is enough to remember that HYDRA Command is a thing of the past.

Wasnt talking about Hycom

I would request you folks take discussion about a long-dead organization, outside of matters specifically related to its mention in the draft, to the Gameplay forum

Will do

[La Navasse]

I am directing Oroqus to vote "Yes" for this Repeal.

Simply put, there is no reason for a Liberation of a essentially trophy region to hold.

I do not mind the less-than-positive light the Repeal puts me in - it is true I was instrumental in causing the need for such a Liberation. >_>

A further explanation: if I hadn't not listened to TGW on how to refound DankMemes, they would've helped, and the Liberation would've most likely been unnecessary. Instead, I didn't listen, I was shunned by defenders, and I went to write the Liberation as a last resort.

[Indo-Malaysia]

What I'm most confused about is why no one seems to be bothering to argue against this bill in this thread. Obviously people don't like it, but no one's putting forward arguments to explain why in the place where it would be most relevant.

Well, there aren't any valid arguments to post.

[Abhichandra]

"Repeal "Liberate Dank memes"" was defeated 9,265 votes to 5,098.

[Tim-Opolis]

We'll be back in a few weeks with a draft that TNP will vote for. I could re-up it right now, but I like to give the delegates some time between being battered by my campaign telegrams.