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Scratched 'Imperium Anglorum' off the list.

Unibot III wrote:Scratched 'Imperium Anglorum' off the list.

Well deserved.

I really think since rule 1 has become what it has for editors, CWA needs be removed from your list, as I see no legal avenue to getting him commended.

Ransium wrote:I really think since rule 1 has become what it has for editors, CWA needs be removed from your list, as I see no legal avenue to getting him commended.

Bah, rules never stopped authors in the past. Rules are made to be bent thoroughly.


One idea that comes to mind is that Rule I is focused on commending players for certain actions, but defining the intention of the commendation is far more nebulous than it might seem at first. For instance, citing the work of a nominee while dis-attributing it to the argument of the commendation runs roughshod over Rule I in an amusing way.

Also: CWA should found the region, Issue 478.

This list has been updated-ish. Some of the projects are on the go, some have stalled, some have come to fruition, others failed.

Nee + Dali. Something I may tackle

I know that I am a nobody in terms of the Security Resolution community aha (not really much of a Gameplay person aha...), but for extra information, Unibot (as the opening poster), The Macabees was the brain behind the second incarnation (and current version) of the NationStates Draftroom, which has really helped many roleplayers heaps since uhm, going by memory, 2005 [correction: 2007]?

I would also like to suggest someone to be condemned (I don't think that person would like to be commended aha, IC wise): New Aeyariss. The player behind that account has done many, many things behind the scene (not through his New Aeyariss account) that has truly made the NationStates and International Incidents alive (or at least help contribute to that). In saying that, to reassure people that will think 'this Yohannes player is only naming/putting forward names of her/his friends there; what a corrupt person!' By searching my forum posting history you will know that I have (in the past) disagreed and argued (argued very hard, in fact many roleplayers have seen me arguing with both of them at different times) with both The Macabees and New Aeyariss (so no, we are not 'close friends' or even in the same inner RPing circles; that is, we don't even interact regularly much at all). I am putting forward their names because I truly believe that they have done heaps for the community and if anyone (from the RPing community) should be rewarded for their contribution, then they are the most likely candidates

I will not comment about Maltropia being put there (because then it would be blatant cronyism... aha). But I can reassure people that the player behind that account is a level headed, objective person. Maybe IC wise Maltropia has not done much (in comparison to, say, Lyras, Questers (someone that should've been put there ages ago but sadly not), or many others), but OOC wise Maltropia has helped the community very much

However, I would like to say to Unibot: Be very careful about putting forward people's name there. You do not want to put people's names there just because they are OOC wise politically connected with the Gameplay community (that would be undeserving, as they should be commended/condemned purely for their RP OOC and IC record, not Gameplay connections)

If anyone would like to condemn/commend New Aeyariss or The Macabees, I am willing to help them with providing forum information/record and off-site information concerning the two players. I hope I have not offended anyone by posting here (as a roleplayer posting in a Gameplay thread aha...) Thank you and have a good day!

Edit: I am suggesting the above in light of the fact that Unibot is suggesting some more roleplayers should be rewarded for their efforts in contributing to NationStates (RP-wise). If, however, many in the Gameplay community are not interested with seeing more RPers be commended/condemned, then I would like to sincerely apologise (for posting here) and retract all the above aha...

Nations are commended, not players. “Behind the scenes?” You gotta be more specific

Fauxia wrote:Nations are commended, not players. “Behind the scenes?” You gotta be more specific

I am smiling right now aha. Would you like for me to reply to you seriously or uhm would you like for me to toy around with you just a wee bit more? [if you want my serious reply be prepared to accept that I will be blunt with you though]

Westwickport wrote:Would you like for me to reply to you seriously or uhm would you like for me to toy around with you just a wee bit more?

Yohannes, if you're going to respond with threats, as least have the courtesy to respond using the nation you originally posted with. I don't see a single thing in Fauxia's post that called for such an abrasive answer.

New Aeyariss seems like a fine nominee, Yohannes. Thanks for suggesting them.

Frisbeeteria wrote:

Westwickport wrote:Would you like for me to reply to you seriously or uhm would you like for me to toy around with you just a wee bit more?

Yohannes, if you're going to respond with threats, as least have the courtesy to respond using the nation you originally posted with. I don't see a single thing in Fauxia's post that called for such an abrasive answer.

That's true Frisbeeteria. I would like to apologise to the player behind the account of Fauxia for that. I will say something now that will probably get me warned (and I fully accept the fact that I will most likely be warned for saying what I am about to say). I fully accept the consequences of my actions aha

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But why should I respond with my main account when the player behind that account is probably playing around with his Fauxia account by replying to people's comments without thinking first?

I have seen that account's [ forum posting history ]. Good contributions and suggestions in general (especially for Got Issues? and Gameplay things in general). But the player behind that account is also an arrogant person who like to post inaccurate suggestions (probably to show him/herself as some kind of an expert? Or he/she thinks the player he/she was correcting is a clueless person? I don't know). Two Examples (my history with Fauxia): (One and one)

There are more examples of course. And Fauxia's (or the player behind that account) post in this thread is proof of that. Why doesn't the player behind the account of Fauxia stop and think, before posting, that: 'Hey, maybe this Yohannes stranger already knows that nation is actually commended/condemned for stuff coming out from their nation's in-game or forum history/record, and not for what the player or person behind that account has done from many other nations/NationStates accounts? That perhaps 'Yohannes knows one plus one is two? That perhaps this complete stranger is not clueless concerning basic GA or SC matters? That perhaps more stuff should be put there but maybe Yohannes didn't do it because he/she doesn't want to be involved too much with SC politicking/matters? That he/she wants to stay out of it?

But, of course, Fauxia has got to do yet another one of his/her hastily written (without thinking) and frankly stupid corrections/suggestions. A complete waste of forum post in attempting to correct someone that he/she thinks is probably just some newbie who don't know much

Of course (as typical of that kind of player), the player behind Fauxia (the account) like to let those that he/she respect (for whatever reason) get away with things (clearly complete bias there; he/she will only act arrogantly/post 'suggestions without thinking first' so long as it won't affect his/her interests): Example one, example two

There are more examples of his/her forum posting history from that account, of course, but I don't think it's necessary to do that here.

That was the reason for my abrasiveness, Frisbeeteria. Why should I act nice to someone who probably is just playing around from one of his/her sock alternate/puppet accounts (especially considering that person is heavily involved with Gameplay, giving me the suspicion that that was just one of his/her many alternate accounts)? Niceties and respect must go both ways: If you are not nice to someone (as the player behind the account of Fauxia did to me since the very beginning that I have interacted with that account), then you should be prepared to accept the fact that others won't be nice also. And I am not someone to be pushed around. The player behind that account may think that I am clueless, and the player behind that account has every right to treat me (by posting pointless suggestions) as if I am a clueless person.

But then I have every right to publicly mock him/her too for his/her naivety. I have every right to have my fun with Fauxia. Or the player behind that account. I want to have fun with him/her whenever I see him/her replying to my post. I want to toy with him/her to show him/her that he/she should think twice before trying to treat me as if I am a clueless person next time. Aha. It is only fair.

As I have said niceties and politeness must go both ways.

Back to the topic:

Fauxia wrote:Nations are commended, not players.

I know that.

But I have no doubt that whoever is the controller behind the account of New Aeyariss also has other NationStates accounts that he used for roleplay/storytelling purpose on [ NationStates ] and [ International Incidents ]. Many Gameplayers (like you) should know this: That people post heaps from their alternate accounts. This includes for stuff like roleplaying; they will roleplay from other accounts. There are some roleplayers (of the old tradition) who still mainly use one account to roleplay (like me). But we are a dying breed. These days, I have seen many regular roleplayers (who have stopped posting from their old 'main' RPing accounts for whatever reason) and many regular Gameplayers (or previously active Gameplayers) actually roleplaying on NationStates (NationStates, International Incidents, Global Economics & Trade) using their alternate accounts. They have created fine RPing communities and have made good posts on NationStates and International Incidents. They have good politicking (OOC) skills. I can tell these people are not newbies (though their accounts are relatively new) but people, most likely, from the Gameplay community, RPing in forum.

So I know that if (and that's a big 'if', as I know hard it is for RPers to be recognised for their work, which is fair to me as I believe that Gameplay is and has always been more important for the game) there will be a 'Condemn New Ayeariss', only the storytelling/Rping record of New Ayeariss the account/nation itself will actually be recognised by the resolution itself.

But we must also OOC wise take into account/debate/see the achievements/record of the controller of that nation (from his other accounts)

So it seems you are either clueless about the above nature of the NationStates (forum) RPing community (that people RP from multiple accounts), or you are a troll (because you already know that many people [not just from the Gameplay communities but also many regular RPers even] like to roleplay from their alternate NationStates accounts; yet you have written the above silly post anyway?).

If you are simply a clueless person (to the way the RPing communities are like atm; and how players use different accounts), however (which I doubt you are), then I am sorry.

Fauxia wrote:You gotta be more specific “Behind the scenes?”

Yet another one of your stupid suggestions. Didn't you see this part of my post?

Yohannes wrote:If anyone would like to condemn/commend New Aeyariss or The Macabees, I am willing to help them with providing forum information/record and off-site information concerning the two players. I hope I have not offended anyone by posting here (as a roleplayer posting in a Gameplay thread aha...) Thank you and have a good day!

You should know from there that I was here only to give a general nudge/to let those who may be interested in being author to commend the above people know, that they can always contact me. They can telegram me if they want to have a try at commending The Macabees or condemning New Aeyariss. I can provide any prospective SC author to commend/condemn The Macabees and New Aeyariss with a boatload of forum posting history (and especially years of offsite record for The Macabees). In saying that, once again, if you (Fauxia) or anyone here think that 'this Yohannes person is just here to put forward names of his/her friends'. You only need to check my forum posting history and see that I have OOC-wise argued very hard (in the past) with both The Macabees and New Aeyariss.

However I wouldn't post all of them here now. Why? Because you see this is only a suggestion thread by Unibot. We don't even know yet whether any of the above will happen. I am not willing to browse hundreds of forum posts for the sake of something that probably won't even be there.

So now, to the player behind the account of Fauxia, you know why I didn't do this:

Fauxia wrote:You gotta be more specific

Edit:

Unibot III wrote:New Aeyariss seems like a fine nominee, Yohannes. Thanks for suggesting them.

Thanks Unibot! Just a note that New Aeyariss used other accounts to roleplay with also. If you ever need the names of these accounts (in future), flick me a telegram and I will be more than happy to help! Aha

Yohannes, I never intend to come off arrogantly. I also sometimes misread or miss things.

Also, don’t quote my ambassador and say it’s me. My ambassador is meant to be extremely rude.

Just a question, Yohannes - but have you ever thought of drafting a commendation / condemnation for Macabees or New Aeyariss yourself? You're a strong writer and the SC forum vets resolutions well, in my opinion. With your intimate understanding of II's roleplay events, I bet you're better qualified than most folks in NS to write these resolutions.

I'd be happy to offer advice and vet where I can - as I'm sure others will too.

Unibot III wrote:Just a question, Yohannes - but have you ever thought of drafting a commendation / condemnation for Macabees or New Aeyariss yourself? You're a strong writer and the SC forum vets resolutions well, in my opinion. With your intimate understanding of II's roleplay events, I bet you're better qualified than most folks in NS to write these resolutions.

I'd be happy to offer advice and vet where I can - as I'm sure others will too.

Thank you for the kind comment, Unibot. Sadly, I know my weaknesses. Gameplay and Security Resolution are two (and I am not the type who like to do something controversial/daring - like writing a GA or SC resolution - without carefully learning the ropes first [ I like to secretly watch the regulars of GA and SC [as well as Gameplayers] debate with another aha; but that's about it. I prefer to just watch Gameplayers or SCers debate with one another; I don't want to be involved in SC/Gameplay matters aha ]

Uhm, so. Yeah. I don't think I am ready yet (I was serious when I say that I am a nobody in Gameplay/GA/SC -- I am not ready yet). There are many wonderful and talented Gameplayers and SCers who I am sure will be able to write SC resolutions far better than I can ever write one aha

However, The Macabees has done many good things since 2005 (and I am saying this as someone who used to openly criticise him in front of a lot of people, uhm, I think back in 2015? Going by memory). And I would be more than happy to assist/help those who are interested (in future) with trying to commend The Macabees. Other than that, I think this will be my last post (here) as I don't want to stray away from the main topic of this thread (Ideas for SC Resolutions). Thank you!

Yohannes wrote:

Unibot III wrote:Just a question, Yohannes - but have you ever thought of drafting a commendation / condemnation for Macabees or New Aeyariss yourself? You're a strong writer and the SC forum vets resolutions well, in my opinion. With your intimate understanding of II's roleplay events, I bet you're better qualified than most folks in NS to write these resolutions.

I'd be happy to offer advice and vet where I can - as I'm sure others will too.

Thank you for the kind comment, Unibot. Sadly, I know my weaknesses. Gameplay and Security Resolution are two (and I am not the type who like to do something controversial/daring - like writing a GA or SC resolution - without carefully learning the ropes first [ I like to secretly watch the regulars of GA and SC [as well as Gameplayers] debate with another aha; but that's about it. I prefer to just watch Gameplayers or SCers debate with one another; I don't want to be involved in SC/Gameplay matters aha ]

Uhm, so. Yeah. I don't think I am ready yet (I was serious when I say that I am a nobody in Gameplay/GA/SC -- I am not ready yet). There are many wonderful and talented Gameplayers and SCers who I am sure will be able to write SC resolutions far better than I can ever write one aha

However, The Macabees has done many good things since 2005 (and I am saying this as someone who used to openly criticise him in front of a lot of people, uhm, I think back in 2015? Going by memory). And I would be more than happy to assist/help those who are interested (in future) with trying to commend The Macabees. Other than that, I think this will be my last post (here) as I don't want to stray away from the main topic of this thread (Ideas for SC Resolutions). Thank you!

I think this is nonsense btw. You're a very capable writer. None of us think we're WA authors until we do it. Then we are WA authors. Simple as that. If you were to write a first draft at some point and posted it here, you would get all the feedback you needed (and probably some you didn't.)

Yohannes, why do you needlessly punctuate your sentences with "aha" so often?

Also you're twice as qualified as half the people who submit SC resolutions so the whole "I'm not ready to write a resolution myself" thing is garbage.

Frisbeeteria wrote:

Westwickport wrote:Would you like for me to reply to you seriously or uhm would you like for me to toy around with you just a wee bit more?

Yohannes, if you're going to respond with threats, as least have the courtesy to respond using the nation you originally posted with. I don't see a single thing in Fauxia's post that called for such an abrasive answer.

To be fair Fauxia's post was silly. We commend players all the time

Yohannes wrote:

Unibot III wrote:Just a question, Yohannes - but have you ever thought of drafting a commendation / condemnation for Macabees or New Aeyariss yourself? You're a strong writer and the SC forum vets resolutions well, in my opinion. With your intimate understanding of II's roleplay events, I bet you're better qualified than most folks in NS to write these resolutions.

I'd be happy to offer advice and vet where I can - as I'm sure others will too.

Thank you for the kind comment, Unibot. Sadly, I know my weaknesses. Gameplay and Security Resolution are two (and I am not the type who like to do something controversial/daring - like writing a GA or SC resolution - without carefully learning the ropes first [ I like to secretly watch the regulars of GA and SC [as well as Gameplayers] debate with another aha; but that's about it. I prefer to just watch Gameplayers or SCers debate with one another; I don't want to be involved in SC/Gameplay matters aha ]

Uhm, so. Yeah. I don't think I am ready yet (I was serious when I say that I am a nobody in Gameplay/GA/SC -- I am not ready yet). There are many wonderful and talented Gameplayers and SCers who I am sure will be able to write SC resolutions far better than I can ever write one aha

However, The Macabees has done many good things since 2005 (and I am saying this as someone who used to openly criticise him in front of a lot of people, uhm, I think back in 2015? Going by memory). And I would be more than happy to assist/help those who are interested (in future) with trying to commend The Macabees. Other than that, I think this will be my last post (here) as I don't want to stray away from the main topic of this thread (Ideas for SC Resolutions). Thank you!

If you know Aeyariss’ achievements, I agree with Unibot and Consular. You could write the commendation/condemnation yourself, and if you are as bad as you say (which I doubt) you hand it off to someone else. Why not give it a try though?

Hey, Unibot - I don't really think I belong on this list, but would you kindly switch the mention of 'Cerian Quilor' to 'Kylia Quilor' if you're going to keep me on the list?

Thanks.

On the NS Sports side of things, Electrum and Kelssek deserve a commendation.

Kylia Quilor wrote:Hey, Unibot - I don't really think I belong on this list, but would you kindly switch the mention of 'Cerian Quilor' to 'Kylia Quilor' if you're going to keep me on the list?

Thanks.

I'm so stubborn I will.

Unibot III wrote:

Kylia Quilor wrote:Hey, Unibot - I don't really think I belong on this list, but would you kindly switch the mention of 'Cerian Quilor' to 'Kylia Quilor' if you're going to keep me on the list?

Thanks.

I'm so stubborn I will.

I appreciate the list change.

Scratching "Commend Candlewhisper Archive" off the list, happily. And adding a "progress" sign to "Commend The Macabees" thanks to Yohannes! ^^

With the passage of "Commend the Macabees," that brings the count up to seven passed, two defeated. Muhahahaha. *strikes Macabees off the list*

Sunset hasn't been Commended, yet?

If it hasn't been done, and no one else is, I'm willing to take up a Commendation of Sunset. I have interacted with Sunset and found them a very capable and helpful roleplayer and mentor. Very deserving of a Commend.