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Postby Yaak » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:23 pm

I have an idea... to make a proposal encouraging peace regarding the situation going on in the real world. Without mention of the real world.
Taiwan is a country, Tiananmen Square Protests happened, and free Tibet.

Ukraine is not Russia, and it will never be.

Russia and China cutting Ukraine and Taiwan like a cake.

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Postby Thousand Branches » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:15 pm

Yaak wrote:I have an idea... to make a proposal encouraging peace regarding the situation going on in the real world. Without mention of the real world.

That already exists, and almost everyone opposes it :p
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Postby Kasase » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:18 pm

I have an wholesome idea for when April fools comes around
called
"commend you"
basically:
"noting that YOU are / is a good person
happy that YOU have joined this community"
etc etc
this is for April fools though :)
why the hell am I thinking April fools in feburary
sorry for any spelling mistakes, English is not my first language :)
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Postby Thousand Branches » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:02 pm

Kasase wrote:I have an wholesome idea for when April fools comes around
called
"commend you"
basically:
"noting that YOU are / is a good person
happy that YOU have joined this community"
etc etc
this is for April fools though :)
why the hell am I thinking April fools in feburary
sorry for any spelling mistakes, English is not my first language :)

Actually, some of the folks wrote that during the TRR SC thingie :p Alas, it’s also illegal under the new SC rules, it’d have to be a declaration!
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:29 pm

Thousand Branches wrote:
Kasase wrote:I have an wholesome idea for when April fools comes around
called
"commend you"...

Actually, some of the folks wrote that during the TRR SC thingie :p Alas, it’s also illegal under the new SC rules, it’d have to be a declaration!

1. The only Commend You I can remember was the one that Todd McCloud wrote in 2015. October, not April.
2. Rule 4c, as far as I'm concerned, only prohibits symbolic proposals inasmuch as they express a "view on matters beyond Commendations/Condemnations/Liberations of nations/region." Syl's Liberate Ukraine is legal. I have no idea if Declaration on You could ever be.

(Kasase's original post partially snipped by me for conciseness.)
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Postby Kasase » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:38 pm

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Tinhampton wrote:
Thousand Branches wrote:Actually, some of the folks wrote that during the TRR SC thingie :p Alas, it’s also illegal under the new SC rules, it’d have to be a declaration!

1. The only Commend You I can remember was the one that Todd McCloud wrote in 2015. October, not April.
2. Rule 4c, as far as I'm concerned, only prohibits symbolic proposals inasmuch as they express a "view on matters beyond Commendations/Condemnations/Liberations of nations/region." Syl's Liberate Ukraine is legal. I have no idea if Declaration on You could ever be.

(Kasase's original post partially snipped by me for conciseness.)

Ok then. im not a master of the WA so I guess I agree with you.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:46 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Thousand Branches wrote:Actually, some of the folks wrote that during the TRR SC thingie :p Alas, it’s also illegal under the new SC rules, it’d have to be a declaration!

1. The only Commend You I can remember was the one that Todd McCloud wrote in 2015. October, not April.
2. Rule 4c, as far as I'm concerned, only prohibits symbolic proposals inasmuch as they express a "view on matters beyond Commendations/Condemnations/Liberations of nations/region." Syl's Liberate Ukraine is legal. I have no idea if Declaration on You could ever be.

(Kasase's original post partially snipped by me for conciseness.)

I wasn’t even arguing about the legality of the Ukraine proposal o.O And a commendation of the region or nation of “You” would absolutely fall afoul of 4c. The rules explanation clearly uses this example:

“Therefore, if you want to Condemn Hippopotamuses but you're actually trying to Condemn the really quite large semi-aquatic mammal rather than the NationStates region -- you now cannot; use a Declaration instead.”

In this case, you’re not trying to commend the region or the nation but rather the NationStates community as a whole, and therefore that would not be legal. A declaration celebrating the NationStates community, while odd, could probably be possible.

Also to your first point, it was written during the silly little proposal competition at the TRR convention back in… idk like November? It’s the same place I got the idea for my WA diversity prop ironically xD It never went beyond just being a silly draft that a couple of folks wrote though :p
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Postby Obvious Shortcomings » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:30 pm

here's the draft I have, although this was the first draft when we wrote it - don't have the final one we fixed up on me

The Security Council,

Recognizing that against all odds, therein exists an entity known as you.

Noting that there are many possible circumstances in which the benevolent entities that guide the universe may have placed you,

Understanding that although these circumstances sometimes may be harsh and forbidding, the notions of strength and determination which lie within you has helped you thrive in these unwelcoming situations,

Lauding the passion invested into a multitude of projects and goals undertaken by you, whether the execution of these objectives occurs in the known multiverse or elsewhere,

Believing that upon the timely completion of these integral objectives, all areas of the multiverse will be made a better place in some way, shape, or form thanks to you,

Praising the many gracious interactions nations have experienced upon wholeheartedly communicating in various matters with you,

Hailing the steadfast compassion and care which others have thankfully received from you,

Observing that for many entities, therein subsists nothing more valuable and beautiful than you,

Celebrating that no matter what, the Security Council shall always hold eternal respect and awe for the sheer blessing that is the existence of you,

Hereby commends You for simply being awesome.


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Postby Yaak » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:48 pm

I have an idea to encourage the stability of Warzones.
Taiwan is a country, Tiananmen Square Protests happened, and free Tibet.

Ukraine is not Russia, and it will never be.

Russia and China cutting Ukraine and Taiwan like a cake.

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Postby Emodea » Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:40 pm

Yaak wrote:I have an idea to encourage the stability of Warzones.

What are you exactly thinking about? Like something similar to this?
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Postby Yaak » Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:30 pm

Emodea wrote:
Yaak wrote:I have an idea to encourage the stability of Warzones.

What are you exactly thinking about? Like something similar to this?


Yes, but to also throw in a line encouraging others to protect a Warzone's government and culture.
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Any Ideas? Im bad at coming up with good ones!

Postby Fachumonn » Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:02 pm

Okay, so recently, I've had to scrap 3 proposals due to feedback and I realize my ideas were not the best in touch with the SC, just on what I thought/think.
So I wanted to ask everyone for ideas, because as I stated earlier mine were doomed to fail. Thanks, -Fachumonn
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Postby Yaak » Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:41 pm

Commend Ponderosa? For his factbook.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:07 pm

Fachumonn wrote:Okay, so recently, I've had to scrap 3 proposals due to feedback and I realize my ideas were not the best in touch with the SC, just on what I thought/think.
So I wanted to ask everyone for ideas, because as I stated earlier mine were doomed to fail. Thanks, -Fachumonn

There’s a list of ideas on the op of this thread. Besides that, just actually do research on the nominees
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:22 pm

Fachumonn wrote:Okay, so recently, I've had to scrap 3 proposals due to feedback and I realize my ideas were not the best in touch with the SC, just on what I thought/think.
So I wanted to ask everyone for ideas, because as I stated earlier mine were doomed to fail. Thanks, -Fachumonn

Maybe read some advice pinned on the top of the SC forums to help you know what to expect and get started.
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Postby Yaak » Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:46 pm

A proposal saying that condemnations are not a badge of honor, but something to be ashamed about.

Yaak wrote:Commend Ponderosa? For his factbook.


Can someone answer this too?
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Ukraine is not Russia, and it will never be.

Russia and China cutting Ukraine and Taiwan like a cake.

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Postby Thousand Branches » Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:50 pm

Yaak wrote:A proposal saying that condemnations are not a badge of honor, but something to be ashamed about.

Actually the opposite has been suggested before, by me principally :p If you did want to pursue it, I would research the history of early condemnations that were for bad regions. Maybe contact some folks that were around back then to learn about it. Also, the official name for shame condemnations is “black condemns”.

You would have a lot of difficulty passing your idea though, because nobody really does those anymore or believes in that ideology anymore
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:27 pm

Thousand Branches wrote:
Yaak wrote:A proposal saying that condemnations are not a badge of honor, but something to be ashamed about.

Actually the opposite has been suggested before, by me principally :p If you did want to pursue it, I would research the history of early condemnations that were for bad regions. Maybe contact some folks that were around back then to learn about it. Also, the official name for shame condemnations is “black condemns”.

You would have a lot of difficulty passing your idea though, because nobody really does those anymore or believes in that ideology anymore

Worth noting it’s also really hard to write one that the target will actually take as a badge of shame.

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Postby Penguin Dictators » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:11 pm

Yaak wrote:A proposal saying that condemnations are not a badge of honor, but something to be ashamed about.


I mean, theoretically they aren't badges of honor since they're called Condemnations (in other words disown/disavow, shame, throw pineapples at this person/region because they're terrible).

But there's always going to be folks that take them with pride, and writing what would basically just amount to the literary version of the Walk of Shame isn't going to suddenly change that.

Overall, it'd be a completely pointless proposal.
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Postby Fachumonn » Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:03 pm

Does anybody think that TCB is commendable? I'm not not sure it is but just thought of it.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:19 pm

Penguin Dictators wrote:
Yaak wrote:A proposal saying that condemnations are not a badge of honor, but something to be ashamed about.


I mean, theoretically they aren't badges of honor since they're called Condemnations (in other words disown/disavow, shame, throw pineapples at this person/region because they're terrible).

But there's always going to be folks that take them with pride, and writing what would basically just amount to the literary version of the Walk of Shame isn't going to suddenly change that.

Overall, it'd be a completely pointless proposal.

They’re badges of IC dishonor, which is an OOC honor :p
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:10 pm

Warzones, and the rules of engagement in them, still are emerging as a hot topic. Might time for some competitive drafting. :)
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Postby Hulldom » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:18 pm

Well now I'm almost curious as to when that particular bit was added :shock:

In all seriousness, if you're adding me, I would add Luca as well....

Edit: Also thinking aloud here, Fauxia maybe?
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Postby Quebecshire » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:19 pm

I'd second adding Luca/Refuge Isle as a commend option. I presume a Refugi would be the most likely author, but in any case, they are certainly commendable.
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Postby Guess and Check » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:32 pm

Luca and Fauxia would be good options to add.
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