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Unibot III wrote:Candlestick Archive

Unibot III wrote:

Lenlyvit wrote:The only thing with that is that I didn't save a copy of those completed :/. If you have a list still I'll certainly try to add it in!

I think I’m missing a few:

Zwangzug
Candlestick Archive
Tsunamy
Imperium Anglorum
Alasdair I Frosticus
Forest
The Macabees
Liberate The Communal Confederacy
Liberate Iran
Gay
Greater Dienstad
Common Territories
Pierconium
Vincent Drake
Roavin
Ransium
Guy
Frattastan
Deadeye Jack

That's a lot more than I thought there were. I'll work on it when I get a chance.

Unibot III wrote:

Lenlyvit wrote:The only thing with that is that I didn't save a copy of those completed :/. If you have a list still I'll certainly try to add it in!

I think I’m missing a few:

Zwangzug
Candlestick Archive
Tsunamy
Imperium Anglorum
Alasdair I Frosticus
Forest
The Macabees
Liberate The Communal Confederacy
Liberate Iran
Gay
Greater Dienstad
Common Territories
Pierconium
Vincent Drake
Roavin
Ransium
Guy
Frattastan
Deadeye Jack

I think we should amend your words slightly. Many of those drafts probably weren't inspired by this thread, even though the nominees were once on it (if they're worthy, multiple people oughta have the idea). How about "Passed Past Ideas" ?

Edit: As a side note, I'd also like to see some raiders come in here and give ideas.

Sedgistan wrote:From recollection, Todd was okay with #SC1 being replaced with a better written Condemnation of Macedon, so Goobs and Kandarin should be the same. They're historical resolutions from the formative days of the SC, but they're still recorded there even when repealed and replaced.

Sorry, just backreading.

Kandarin does not want a replacement of the commendation. I believe it was Manson who asked him.

Frankly, because of the inactivity discussed by Sedge and Unibot, I think his commendation would have to steer more towards roleplay. If I recall correctly, he did opine that up when talking to Manson.

Yes

Players should definitely start contemplating how they might use the Declaration category and start pre-drafting.

One obvious one is a new C.O.P.S open treaty against forum destruction.

The second obvious one would be a convention against queue raiding — which would be especially important for the WA to condemn and admonish.

Someone could also hold another conference on GCR-UCR relations, given recent discussions, for the purposes of formulating a new agreement to be submitted and recognized by the WA.

Another idea would be a text that codified the NSGE/NSWF that laid out some structure and process and recognized one, official regularly occurring event. This could be controversial since certain regions or players may want control over the international event. But without some kind of international protocol, you’ll never have regularity in the programming.

I believe the NSWC has a constitution but I’m not sure if the NS Sports community would be interested in the WASC recognizing the NSWC as an international sporting institution or not…

The traditional way that the NS mods have viewed resolutions is that they have to have contents which match their actual effects. The question turns into something like "do we follow that tradition or not". Which, if we don't, it becomes also interesting to see whether people actually use these declarations as legitimisation for military or diplomatic action.

I'll be getting back into updating this thread hopefully some time this weekend. With the advent of a new category I'll have to add a list for declarations.

on behalf of the Administrator of the Dominion, we suggest allowing clones the Right and Privilege to join the armed services.

Voxelios wrote:on behalf of the Administrator of the Dominion, we suggest allowing clones the Right and Privilege to join the armed services.

That would be for the GA rather than the SC to do, and in fact has already been covered as a side-effect of existing legislation there.

I kind of want to add more role players to the list of nominees, so if anyone has any suggestions please feel free to name some.

Voxelios wrote:on behalf of the Administrator of the Dominion, we suggest allowing clones the Right and Privilege to join the armed services.

Bears Armed is right.

A few ideas for declarations:
- Official stance on region griefing (of course, #bashdafash and ooc bad regions are big exceptions)
- Official stance on offensive liberation resolutions (only use them on fash and ooc bad regions)
- Cards etiquette?? (nobody wants to be heisted, blocking pull events bad)

The Python wrote:Cards etiquette?? (nobody wants to be heisted, blocking pull events bad)

I think an international cards trading norms resolution could be interesting

The Python wrote:A few ideas for declarations:
- Official stance on region griefing (of course, #bashdafash and ooc bad regions are big exceptions)
- Official stance on offensive liberation resolutions (only use them on fash and ooc bad regions)
- Cards etiquette?? (nobody wants to be heisted, blocking pull events bad)

Alrighty, I've added these in to the thread OP. Thanks for the suggestions .

HumanSanity wrote:

The Python wrote:Cards etiquette?? (nobody wants to be heisted, blocking pull events bad)

I think an international cards trading norms resolution could be interesting

I agree, and it could also provide more legitimacy to proposals like “Condemn Koem Kab.”

Aivintis wrote:

HumanSanity wrote:I think an international cards trading norms resolution could be interesting

I agree, and it could also provide more legitimacy to proposals like “Condemn Koem Kab.”

Yep, I started drafting one actually (I posted it in the NS cards discord)

Goobergunchia wrote:

Bormiar wrote:I would put Equilism in the same category of Pope Hope. Everyone seems to try it and it never seems to go through. I may revive my Equilism draft, but FRA defenders seemed to have a problem with Equilism (for becoming independent? I've been told that they were involved in coups in TEP and TNP— probably Empire and Westwind's) and suggested commending Equilism for its prominent nations (Naivetry). I think that's completely different from commending Equilism, and future authors could potentially try both.

I can't really speak to the FRA position in detail (and as of 2009 there was still at least operational cooperation on defense missions) but yes, Equilism did ruffle a bunch of feathers on the defender side (Nasicournia cut off relations in 2007) via the Schism, by declaring the "post-defender age", and probably for a couple other things I don't remember anymore. I more or less view this as water under the bridge by now but I can't speak for everybody.

Nope. Equilism never apologized for it. So it can't be water under the bridge for me.

Apparently I do this now. I will endeavor to keep it updated and to review organization systems for the OP when relevant.

Drew Durrnil wrote:There is now a Commend PS2 proposal that is currently in the drafting stage.

Anywhoozle, that's updated.

HumanSanity wrote:Apparently I do this now. I will endeavor to keep it updated and to review organization systems for the OP when relevant.

Drew Durrnil wrote:There is now a Commend PS2 proposal that is currently in the drafting stage.

Anywhoozle, that's updated.

Congratulations on taking on the OP! There can only be one. ;p

An idea for the OP for a Declaration would be a kind of heritage preservation listing for “naturally” founderless regions — UCRs that predate founders. They’re an increasingly rare specimen.

Perhaps future resolutions could build on the heritage preservation system, by declaring historical preservation status to additional regions. Hilariously, I think Gatesville would be a good candidate.

I also wonder if a Declaration could address warzones — discuss their history, raise awareness of their existence …, perhaps a declaration declaring their free use?

I know some warzones were trying to create a multilateral agreement/constitution at one point.

Or the WA could go full imperialist/peacebuilding and call on a coalition of the willing to bring peace to the warzones, intervene, and hold one of them down as WA international territory. Future WASC HQ? A neutral international territory for diplomacy and stateless peoples?

I think there should be a general declaration of what the community considers as 'winning' in NS. Max might think there is no way to 'win' the game, but that shouldn't mean the community does not have its own ideas.

There are too many arguments where people boast about something and it isn't really meaningful or significant at all.

Warzone Codger wrote:I think there should be a general declaration of what the community considers as 'winning' in NS. Max might think there is no way to 'win' the game, but that shouldn't mean the community does not have its own ideas.

There are too many arguments where people boast about something and it isn't really meaningful or significant at all.

Victory is what you make it.

Warzone Codger wrote:I think there should be a general declaration of what the community considers as 'winning' in NS.

Which "community"? There are several, after all, and their ideas on the subject of winning seem unlikely to be identical...

What the bear said