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The Sigometh Dynasty wrote:

Outer Sparta wrote:If you want to make a draft, then go ahead. However, I don't think your nominee is rather commendable unless you elaborate on what he did in card trading. Also, having a pleasant experience with someone else is not a proper ground for a commend.

Well, because of him the market lit up as he was selling hundreds of high quality cards for fractions of their worth so he presumably made a lot of peoples days.

That's not really commendable. Plenty of traders do that on a daily basis and they aren't commended.

Comfed wrote:

The Sigometh Dynasty wrote:
Well, because of him the market lit up as he was selling hundreds of high quality cards for fractions of their worth so he presumably made a lot of peoples days.

That's not really commendable. Plenty of traders do that on a daily basis and they aren't commended.

Who does it on a daily basis, and is it at the scale Axixic has done it?

Comfed wrote:

The Sigometh Dynasty wrote:
Well, because of him the market lit up as he was selling hundreds of high quality cards for fractions of their worth so he presumably made a lot of peoples days.

That's not really commendable. Plenty of traders do that on a daily basis and they aren't commended.

Not like what Axixic did in the slightest. However, although it made certain legs easier to get, it also cost lots of people loads of deck value because of the deflation.

The Sigometh Dynasty wrote:

Outer Sparta wrote:If you want to make a draft, then go ahead. However, I don't think your nominee is rather commendable unless you elaborate on what he did in card trading. Also, having a pleasant experience with someone else is not a proper ground for a commend.

Well, because of him the market lit up as he was selling hundreds of high quality cards for fractions of their worth so he presumably made a lot of peoples days.

Not commendable in any way.

Outer Sparta wrote:

The Sigometh Dynasty wrote:
Well, because of him the market lit up as he was selling hundreds of high quality cards for fractions of their worth so he presumably made a lot of peoples days.

Not commendable in any way.

How is it not commendable in any way? Why so dismissive?

Honeydewistania wrote:

Outer Sparta wrote:Not commendable in any way.

How is it not commendable in any way? Why so dismissive?

Unless they or someone else makes a draft, I'll be open-minded. Right now, just don't see anything commendable in that nominee.

I've added Twobagger to the list of nominees. Perhaps someone will take up the challenge like Jakker wanted?

Some ideas:
- Commending Jamie/Chimes
- Commending Drop Your Pants
- Condemning Big bad Badger
- Commending Falconias
- Commending Jean Rowe
- Condemning Red Back
- Condemning Wickedly Evil People

The Python wrote:Some ideas:
- Commending Jamie/Chimes
- Commending Drop Your Pants
- Condemning Big bad Badger
- Commending Falconias
- Commending Jean Rowe
- Condemning Red Back
- Condemning Wickedly Evil People

All good suggestions, and I'll keep them in mind. As an update, I'm still working on formatting. I know I'm being a little slow, but I've been putting RL ahead of NS.

WEP is certainly worth a Condemn, though it’s all ancient (to you young uns) history now. However, his numerous usurpations of power in TWP should be immortalised.

Not sure why you put Badger on the Condemn list - he was a good TWP Delegate.

Unibot III wrote:I'm digging the table. But might be helpful to have a more visible font colour - something distinctive.

I'll also suggest Pope Hope for the Legacy category. I didn't put on the list intially because a draft was underway - and drafts keep being proposed and no one ever goes through with it - it's pure silliness. Someone should commit to getting it done.

I tried to convince an old ADNer who recently rejoined NS (not saying their name because I don't want to put them on the spot) to take a stab at it, and they seemed interested, so it might finally get done.

I have a feeling a lot of the legacy nominees are never going to get done. GBM doesn't want it; Sunset just has so much content to go through; Commend Northrop-Grumman failed recently; and there are the obvious problems of condemning Myrth. I would also suggest that Commend PH and Red Dusk may never get done, seeing as they still haven't been done and every day that passes makes it more difficult to research.

I would put Equilism in the same category of Pope Hope. Everyone seems to try it and it never seems to go through. I may revive my Equilism draft, but FRA defenders seemed to have a problem with Equilism (for becoming independent? I've been told that they were involved in coups in TEP and TNP— probably Empire and Westwind's) and suggested commending Equilism for its prominent nations (Naivetry). I think that's completely different from commending Equilism, and future authors could potentially try both.

The Holy Principality of Saint Mark should be added to the need commended list, almost everyone who voted for the repeal of his initial commend commented that he still deserved a commend just one that was more well written.

Nova Vandalia wrote:The Holy Principality of Saint Mark should be added to the need commended list, almost everyone who voted for the repeal of his initial commend commented that he still deserved a commend just one that was more well written.

Yes but Rahl bad. Also as condemn Auphelia has proven, you can put commendable things in a condemn (e.g. serving as a 4x local councillor was included as "condemnable" in that example).

EDIT: https://nationstates.news/vote-stacking ... halo/3210/ Helping in the Lazarus coup is not commendable.

Nova Vandalia wrote:The Holy Principality of Saint Mark should be added to the need commended list, almost everyone who voted for the repeal of his initial commend commented that he still deserved a commend just one that was more well written.

Agreed.

Bormiar wrote:I would put Equilism in the same category of Pope Hope. Everyone seems to try it and it never seems to go through. I may revive my Equilism draft, but FRA defenders seemed to have a problem with Equilism (for becoming independent? I've been told that they were involved in coups in TEP and TNP— probably Empire and Westwind's) and suggested commending Equilism for its prominent nations (Naivetry). I think that's completely different from commending Equilism, and future authors could potentially try both.

I can't really speak to the FRA position in detail (and as of 2009 there was still at least operational cooperation on defense missions) but yes, Equilism did ruffle a bunch of feathers on the defender side (Nasicournia cut off relations in 2007) via the Schism, by declaring the "post-defender age", and probably for a couple other things I don't remember anymore. I more or less view this as water under the bridge by now but I can't speak for everybody.

Equilism had a great community, some excellent people, and contributed a lot to the defender cause in earlier years - their members were key to the campaign that led to the Security Council being introduced, and even after their move away from defenderism they provided crucial assistance in missions like the liberation of Belgium. But there's also a lot of stuff they did that people aren't going to forget - the fake "let's drive some activity" schism, the involvement in various feeder coups, birthing the "Empire" group of players with some less than savoury characters like Biyah. They've probably done enough to warrant both a Commendation and a Condemnation, but the two sides undermine each other whenever anyone tries for one.

As a break from condemning fascist regions, how about condemning some of the hardline left-wing regions, ones that also glorify oppressive systems & regimes, for a change?

Bears Armed wrote:As a break from condemning fascist regions, how about condemning some of the hardline left-wing regions, ones that also glorify oppressive systems & regimes, for a change?

Meh. I don't support c/c based on ideology regardless.

Bears Armed wrote:As a break from condemning fascist regions, how about condemning some of the hardline left-wing regions, ones that also glorify oppressive systems & regimes, for a change?

Such as?

Bears Armed wrote:As a break from condemning fascist regions, how about condemning some of the hardline left-wing regions, ones that also glorify oppressive systems & regimes, for a change?

Hmm, I wonder which ones would qualify for a condemnation. I wouldn't really count the earlier Condemn TCB attempt since that one was a dumpster fire with nothing of substance.

Bears Armed wrote:As a break from condemning fascist regions, how about condemning some of the hardline left-wing regions, ones that also glorify oppressive systems & regimes, for a change?

C/Cs for irl ideology is a bad idea as it just draws attention. The region fascist regions were liberated is because it would make it easier to destroy the region if the founder CTEd.

Okay, so the reformatting of the OP is complete with the new tables in place and a little bit of color coding. I also linked to ongoing drafts and failed attempts to make them easier to find.

Sedgistan wrote:Equilism had a great community, some excellent people, and contributed a lot to the defender cause in earlier years - their members were key to the campaign that led to the Security Council being introduced, and even after their move away from defenderism they provided crucial assistance in missions like the liberation of Belgium. But there's also a lot of stuff they did that people aren't going to forget - the fake "let's drive some activity" schism, the involvement in various feeder coups, birthing the "Empire" group of players with some less than savoury characters like Biyah. They've probably done enough to warrant both a Commendation and a Condemnation, but the two sides undermine each other whenever anyone tries for one.

I agree with Sedge, but I’ll add that “Commend Equilism” has been tried once before — it was one the early Todd McCloud resolutions that failed.

Edit: It may be encouraging for new authors to see a list of the resolutions that have been successfully passed that originated from this thread. At the moment it only shows those that have failed. Perhaps a separate table at the end of the OP would add less clutter?

Unibot III wrote:

Sedgistan wrote:Equilism had a great community, some excellent people, and contributed a lot to the defender cause in earlier years - their members were key to the campaign that led to the Security Council being introduced, and even after their move away from defenderism they provided crucial assistance in missions like the liberation of Belgium. But there's also a lot of stuff they did that people aren't going to forget - the fake "let's drive some activity" schism, the involvement in various feeder coups, birthing the "Empire" group of players with some less than savoury characters like Biyah. They've probably done enough to warrant both a Commendation and a Condemnation, but the two sides undermine each other whenever anyone tries for one.

I agree with Sedge, but I’ll add that “Commend Equilism” has been tried once before — it was one the early Todd McCloud resolutions that failed.

Edit: It may be encouraging for new authors to see a list of the resolutions that have been successfully passed that originated from this thread. At the moment it only shows those that have failed. Perhaps a separate table at the end of the OP would add less clutter?

The only thing with that is that I didn't save a copy of those completed :/. If you have a list still I'll certainly try to add it in!

Lenlyvit wrote:

Unibot III wrote:
I agree with Sedge, but I’ll add that “Commend Equilism” has been tried once before — it was one the early Todd McCloud resolutions that failed.

Edit: It may be encouraging for new authors to see a list of the resolutions that have been successfully passed that originated from this thread. At the moment it only shows those that have failed. Perhaps a separate table at the end of the OP would add less clutter?

The only thing with that is that I didn't save a copy of those completed :/. If you have a list still I'll certainly try to add it in!

I think I’m missing a few:

Zwangzug
Candlestick Archive
Tsunamy
Imperium Anglorum
Alasdair I Frosticus
Forest
The Macabees
Liberate The Communal Confederacy
Liberate Iran
Gay
Greater Dienstad
Common Territories
Pierconium
Vincent Drake
Roavin
Ransium
Guy
Frattastan
Deadeye Jack