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Postby Pluvie » Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:01 pm

Sorianora wrote:I’m considering starting a draft to commend Atlantian Oceania. Any suggestions on material or sources to find it?

Atlantian Oceania would be commended for their NS Sports achievements, so looking into both NS sports and the Atlantian Oceania residents who do NS sports would be a good start, as well as the NS sports discord (https://discord.gg/jHkfxHJ). There's a lotta folks there who know quite a bit about NS sports so they would be good people to ask about AO as well ^-^
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Postby Sorianora » Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:26 pm

Pluvie wrote:
Sorianora wrote:I’m considering starting a draft to commend Atlantian Oceania. Any suggestions on material or sources to find it?

Atlantian Oceania would be commended for their NS Sports achievements, so looking into both NS sports and the Atlantian Oceania residents who do NS sports would be a good start, as well as the NS sports discord (https://discord.gg/jHkfxHJ). There's a lotta folks there who know quite a bit about NS sports so they would be good people to ask about AO as well ^-^

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Postby Unibot III » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:14 am

Pluvie wrote:
Sorianora wrote:I’m considering starting a draft to commend Atlantian Oceania. Any suggestions on material or sources to find it?

Atlantian Oceania would be commended for their NS Sports achievements, so looking into both NS sports and the Atlantian Oceania residents who do NS sports would be a good start, as well as the NS sports discord (https://discord.gg/jHkfxHJ). There's a lotta folks there who know quite a bit about NS sports so they would be good people to ask about AO as well ^-^


Yes, I would strongly recommend popping into their Discord room - there's a lot of helpful people there that could help you flesh out what AO does, and its longstanding contribution to the NS Sports world.

Good luck, Sorianora!!
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Postby Sorianora » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:44 am

Unibot III wrote:
Pluvie wrote:Atlantian Oceania would be commended for their NS Sports achievements, so looking into both NS sports and the Atlantian Oceania residents who do NS sports would be a good start, as well as the NS sports discord (https://discord.gg/jHkfxHJ). There's a lotta folks there who know quite a bit about NS sports so they would be good people to ask about AO as well ^-^


Yes, I would strongly recommend popping into their Discord room - there's a lot of helpful people there that could help you flesh out what AO does, and its longstanding contribution to the NS Sports world.

Good luck, Sorianora!!

I’ve hit a small rut, the discord people told me to go talk to the RO’s of AO, unfortunately none of them have been online to answer my telegrams.
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:59 am

Sorianora wrote:
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Yes, I would strongly recommend popping into their Discord room - there's a lot of helpful people there that could help you flesh out what AO does, and its longstanding contribution to the NS Sports world.

Good luck, Sorianora!!

I’ve hit a small rut, the discord people told me to go talk to the RO’s of AO, unfortunately none of them have been online to answer my telegrams.


I think I would just wait it out! In the meantime you should be able to get some helpful insight from some of the newer members of AO, and begin your preliminary research.
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Postby 95X » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:18 am

My own personal opinion follows which is not that of any region or its inhabitants.

Sorianora wrote:I’ve hit a small rut, the discord people told me to go talk to the RO’s of AO, unfortunately none of them have been online to answer my telegrams.
To be quite honest, I'm not surprised that was the result of attempting to join the NS Sports Discord for that reason.

Additionally, 95X isn't interested in participating in commendation discussions for "political reasons". (Both IC and OOC.)
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:36 am

95X wrote:
Sorianora wrote:I’ve hit a small rut, the discord people told me to go talk to the RO’s of AO, unfortunately none of them have been online to answer my telegrams.
To be quite honest, I'm not surprised that was the result of attempting to join the NS Sports Discord for that reason.

Additionally, 95X isn't interested in participating in commendation discussions for "political reasons". (Both IC and OOC.)


Perhaps Sorianora should reach out to other leading AOers for input, rather than just RO's.
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Postby Goobergunchia » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:38 pm

Unibot III wrote:I think it could be helpful to consider future ideas for the SC. The reality is the game has changed, and while some on this list remain good candidates for a C&C (Roavin, Atlantian Oceania), the opportunity has sorta passed for a lot of the folks listed in the OP. It's startling for an old geezer like me to look at the list of active regions and not recognize many of them (they're all card farms right?).


I will say that if anybody wants to have a go at a C&C for somebody active in the 2003-05 period, I'm happy to share what I can recall.
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Postby Starblaydia » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:48 am

Sorianora wrote:
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Yes, I would strongly recommend popping into their Discord room - there's a lot of helpful people there that could help you flesh out what AO does, and its longstanding contribution to the NS Sports world.

Good luck, Sorianora!!

I’ve hit a small rut, the discord people told me to go talk to the RO’s of AO, unfortunately none of them have been online to answer my telegrams.

AO's golden era was a good few years ago, so the old-timers aren't always on and eager to shamelessly self-promote like that. Another issue you might face is that AO isn't all that involved in the WA, so quite what qualities and proven achievements you might need to know for a SC Commendation proposal might not be obvious for our members.

A more-than-decent number of AO nations have already been commended for their individual works (Commerce Heights, Audioslavia, Valanora and myself, for example), and while that was never done directly as a concerted AO effort, it very much speaks to the culture of the region that Vilita crafted in those early days of the mid 2000s.

I'd point to the success, for instance, of the Atlantian Oceania Confederation of Association Football, which is by far the oldest regional football/soccer organisation on NS (currently running the 63rd edition), and is pretty much the NS equivalent of UEFA, given the average strength of the nations present in it, and it's history of community leaders and organisers. The AOCAF Cup is the oldest and arguably most prestigious regional tournament on NS, and has not just been a closed shop dominated by users who enter the World Cup, either, as teams like Pacitalia (the record-holding 10-times winners), Lamoni and 95X - none of whom are known for their NSWC involvement - have all lifted the trophy.
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:17 am

Thanks Starblaydia, that should be a good starting point!
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Postby Electrum » Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:33 am

To be honest, if an AO commendation is on the cards, I would like to see Rushmore and Esportiva added to the list. AO already has a lot of members who have individually shone, but if we look at regions as a whole, Rushmore (especially Eura) has taken the lead for the NS Sports community-wide events (especially for April Fools) while Esportiva has historically been the region that has been friendly to newcomers and are responsible for many of the innovations we have seen in recent years in terms of hosting tournaments.
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Postby Unibot III » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:53 pm

Electrum wrote:To be honest, if an AO commendation is on the cards, I would like to see Rushmore and Esportiva added to the list. AO already has a lot of members who have individually shone, but if we look at regions as a whole, Rushmore (especially Eura) has taken the lead for the NS Sports community-wide events (especially for April Fools) while Esportiva has historically been the region that has been friendly to newcomers and are responsible for many of the innovations we have seen in recent years in terms of hosting tournaments.


I think all three are strong choices for commendation — AO more as a legacy nominee. I remember a lot of good friends from Esportiva.

I will add them to the OP list. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Postby Wrapper » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:44 am

Can't write it myself, because my puppet is the WA delegate (only been involved with them for the past couple of years), but is One Big Island commendable? A legacy region, they used to do a lot of mercenary work, claim to be the first region to take over all the warzones simultaneously, and have absorbed some dying regions including Dethklok 1000. Don't know what else they've done, other than continuously supply beer kegs to their embassies.

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Wrapper wrote:Can't write it myself, because my puppet is the WA delegate (only been involved with them for the past couple of years), but is One Big Island commendable? A legacy region, they used to do a lot of mercenary work, claim to be the first region to take over all the warzones simultaneously, and have absorbed some dying regions including Dethklok 1000. Don't know what else they've done, other than continuously supply beer kegs to their embassies.


I think One Big Island is a good idea!!

I consider them a longstanding cultural institution in NS like the Featured Regions greeters. I would love to see commendations for regions that, while smaller, have become mainstays of the international community
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:13 pm

UPDATE: I've added Rushmore, Esportiva, and One Big Island to the list. And scratched Roavin off. :clap:
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Postby Lenlyvit » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:34 am

I don't know why you have FNR on your list Unibot, they're far from being a commendable region.
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Lenlyvit wrote:I don't know why you have FNR on your list Unibot, they're far from being a commendable region.


Just basing it off age, size, and involvement interregionally — I wasn’t making a judgment call.
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Postby Lenlyvit » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:52 am

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Lenlyvit wrote:I don't know why you have FNR on your list Unibot, they're far from being a commendable region.


Just basing it off age, size, and involvement interregionally — I wasn’t making a judgment call.

Arguably I don't think they should be commended. They've had significant problems where moderation is concerned within their region over the last few years and haven't had any significant impact on interregional relations.
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Postby Unibot III » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:08 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:
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Just basing it off age, size, and involvement interregionally — I wasn’t making a judgment call.

Arguably I don't think they should be commended. They've had significant problems where moderation is concerned within their region over the last few years and haven't had any significant impact on interregional relations.


That's fair enough. I will take them off the list. I'm not in a position to really judge a lot of newer regions and I'm frankly not on the up and up on a lot of internal politics.

I was just pointing out that there's several regions that are about 10000 Islands' size and age at the time of 10KI's first commendation and that the WASC would have to continually reassess what is successful etc. in this game as time passes.

I find, especially as an older player, that my mental model put regions like Euro and 10KI in a special distinct category of UCRs, and everything else is significally less established, but that mental model is flawed. The WASC has to, as an organization, live in the present and assess what success and establishment and contribution means in terms of today.

Hope that makes sense.
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Postby Indusse » Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:51 am

Hey Unibot,
I think you could add nations like Amerion, Aumeltopia and Pencil Sharpeners (Don't know much about this nominee) to the list as well as regions like Karma and Nationstates.

Edit: From the list, Northern Sunrise Islands is back from the dead. They are normally active using their other nation named Kita-Hinode
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Postby Lenlyvit » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:21 am

Unibot III wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:Arguably I don't think they should be commended. They've had significant problems where moderation is concerned within their region over the last few years and haven't had any significant impact on interregional relations.


That's fair enough. I will take them off the list. I'm not in a position to really judge a lot of newer regions and I'm frankly not on the up and up on a lot of internal politics.

I was just pointing out that there's several regions that are about 10000 Islands' size and age at the time of 10KI's first commendation and that the WASC would have to continually reassess what is successful etc. in this game as time passes.

I find, especially as an older player, that my mental model put regions like Euro and 10KI in a special distinct category of UCRs, and everything else is significally less established, but that mental model is flawed. The WASC has to, as an organization, live in the present and assess what success and establishment and contribution means in terms of today.

Hope that makes sense.

It does. But there's also the fact that so much time has passed since those regions were commended that they may be commendable a second time, which might be worth looking into.
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:04 am

Lenlyvit wrote:It does. But there's also the fact that so much time has passed since those regions were commended that they may be commendable a second time, which might be worth looking into.


Heh. One for each decade!

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I think you could add nations like Amerion, Aumeltopia and Pencil Sharpeners (Don't know much about this nominee) to the list as well as regions like Karma and Nationstates.

Edit: From the list, Northern Sunrise Islands is back from the dead. They are normally active using their other nation named Kita-Hinode


Ah, wonderful - NSI!

I like your suggestions. Although I believe "NationStates" is anti-SC and votes against all commendations...

EDIT: Updated the OP list.
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Indusse wrote:as well as regions like Karma


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Last edited by Outer Sparta on Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
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