I am aware. But from all the drafts I don’t actually think it will be changing most convention.
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by Fauxia » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:28 pm
by Honeydewistania » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:07 pm
Warzone Codger wrote:Unibot III wrote:I think a new commendation of Kandarin would have to be careful not to tread into mythology. The truth is Kandarin had a sterling reputation in NSGP but TRR never really developed into a constitutional state of any real sort under his leadership. It was always a bit feudal and undercooked. Today's TRR is almost entirely a product of the 2010-2011 constitutional reforms, especially Sedge and Crazygirl's initiative.
To what extent is it acceptable to apply the standards.of our time to long past historical C&Cs? Most repeals of commendations are due to either committing egregious acts so they are no are no longer deserving, or were basically Insta-repeals where we corrected a mistake (True North or Canterlot).
This might not be a problem with Commend Kandarin as he was worthy regardless of his limitations, but there might be others who are there because the community considers them worthy in 2011 but meh now.
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Chan Island » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:48 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Honeydewistania » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:53 am
Chan Island wrote:Somebody needs to commend or condemn the guy who's rich people got so rich it broke the game. Not sure how it would work out, but it has to happen.
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Unibot III » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:27 am
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Sorianora » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:03 am
by Drew Durrnil » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 am
Unibot III wrote:Hey there!
So I've updated the OP - it was badly in need of an update. Since it was created more than four years ago, I've noted which nominees in the OP have CTE'd or gone inactive. Time has been cruel to some proposed nominees.
(Vincent Drake's commendation and the defeat of "Commend Northrop Grumman" has also been noted.)
I think it could be helpful to consider future ideas for the SC. The reality is the game has changed, and while some on this list remain good candidates for a C&C (Roavin, Atlantian Oceania), the opportunity has sorta passed for a lot of the folks listed in the OP. It's startling for an old geezer like me to look at the list of active regions and not recognize many of them (they're all card farms right?).
Also, it feels like the queue is getting a bit stale again (although it's not as bad as things were in 2017). If I were rewriting the OP today, I would propose some new ideas for SC Resolutions:
[*] Condemn Confederation Of Corrupt Dictators. It's unclear to me why a condemnation was not pursued of CCD, like other Nazi/Fascist regions, if other major regions believe CCD needs to be censured. CCD clearly would not desire a condemnation, so it's not like it would be a "badge of honour."
Finally, I'm wondering if there's an active SC Author who is interested in taking over the OP of this thread? We could propose switching ownership of this discussion thread with the moderators. I want the thread to reflect the perspective of today's players, not some ancient pariah who hasn't been involved in the game for five+ years, and if folks have ideas about how to rebrand the thread, and make it more communal, I'd invite their imagination and energy. Skies the limit. The SC doesn't have a lot of "community" threads or discussion places, I think it's been something that has been lacking since Rule IV and the demise of the Three Walled Bar (a joke that no longer works ).
Rosartemis wrote:DOWN WITH UEPU THOSE DAMNED RAIDERS!
by Unibot III » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:17 am
Drew Durrnil wrote:It was, but all of them were bad.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Tinhampton » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:04 pm
by Pluvie » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:14 pm
Tinhampton wrote:but hurry, only four days left =p
by Sorianora » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:16 pm
by Jedinsto » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:46 pm
Sorianora wrote:Would the order of the grey wardens be commendedable?
by Sorianora » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:17 pm
Jedinsto wrote:Sorianora wrote:Would the order of the grey wardens be commendedable?
With well construed arguments, possibly.
by Outer Sparta » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:28 pm
Pluvie wrote:Tinhampton wrote:but hurry, only four days left =p
Okay actually this does ask an interesting question. What happens if a proposal is at vote when the nation it’s commending/condemning, ctes? Or on that same line of thought, what happens if a region being liberated is killed during a liberation proposal? And even further I would wonder, what happens if a region is commended or condemned and then refounded later? Does it keep the badge? I am so full of questions...
by Honeydewistania » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:37 pm
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Unibot III » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:40 pm
Sorianora wrote:Would the order of the grey wardens be commendedable?
The tradition of condemning fascist regions had long passed as condemnations are seen as recognition of legitimacy which we don’t want. So I’d take CCD off the list.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Toerana » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:50 pm
Unibot III wrote:Like I know I’m old and out of touch, but this sounds like some tortured ass fad. We won’t condemn them because that’s recognizing them. Under that logic nothing condemnable would be condemnable. And it’s not like major regions are ignoring CCD, they’re actively running operations against CCD.
I think there’s an argument to be made that the *proper* vehicle for the international community to express its condemnation of CCD is to condemn CCD.
by Honeydewistania » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:56 pm
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Pluvie » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:10 pm
Outer Sparta wrote:Pluvie wrote:Okay actually this does ask an interesting question. What happens if a proposal is at vote when the nation it’s commending/condemning, ctes? Or on that same line of thought, what happens if a region being liberated is killed during a liberation proposal? And even further I would wonder, what happens if a region is commended or condemned and then refounded later? Does it keep the badge? I am so full of questions...
I would think the badge is still there especially if the nation is refounded.
by Tinhampton » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:18 pm
by Pluvie » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:29 pm
Tinhampton wrote:Condemn Odhinnia did not get removed from the voting floor simply because Odhinnia got DEATed during the voting phase. Not a staff member but I'd imagine the same principle's in effect today
by Comfed » Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:16 pm
Pluvie wrote:Tinhampton wrote:but hurry, only four days left =p
Okay actually this does ask an interesting question. What happens if a proposal is at vote when the nation it’s commending/condemning, ctes? Or on that same line of thought, what happens if a region being liberated is killed during a liberation proposal? And even further I would wonder, what happens if a region is commended or condemned and then refounded later? Does it keep the badge? I am so full of questions...
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