[DEFEATED] Liberate Femdom Empire

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

You really are completely up yourself aren't you. Why would Brunhizzle make a statement regarding your liberation proposal?

Privately.

That's how (which I doubt), not why. Avoiding the hard questions again I see.

[Kitten Baking Union]

Hold on, is it an R4 violation if it uses real world concepts without explaining what they are? I feel like a heard that somewhere.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

Hold on, is it an R4 violation if it uses real world concepts without explaining what they are? I feel like a heard that somewhere.

No; Nazism is a proper noun. You don't explain Communism in a proposal, and you don't explain Nazism in a proposal; they are so widely known that they have a place in NS politics, and therefore don't need to be defined by RW definitions.

[Kaboomlandia]

I shall await a final statement from Brunhizzle regarding this Liberation before taking any action.

You really are completely up yourself aren't you. Why would Brunhizzle make a statement regarding your liberation proposal?

I did send a draft of my own to Brun, never got a response, raised the issue in CAIN, and the consensus was to leave Femdom alone and learn for the next time.

[States of Glory]

What's the point of an offensive Liberation if no-one is willing to attack the region?

[Kaboomlandia]

What's the point of an offensive Liberation if no-one is willing to attack the region?

^^^^^^^^^^

CAIN has moved on. They're not going to try to retake it AFAIK, from the discussions had yesterday on Discord. There's no point liberating this other than to give Femdom and the Nazis some free publicity.

[Consular]

Why does every thread with Aimdar-Goomdar in it become filled with people bickering about their past.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

You really are completely up yourself aren't you. Why would Brunhizzle make a statement regarding your liberation proposal?

I did send a draft of my own to Brun, never got a response, raised the issue in CAIN, and the consensus was to leave Femdom alone and learn for the next time.

We can't have a consensus, we need an opinion from all members of CAIN that is official and that is final.

[Anarcha Feminist Gynarchy]

And there was never contact or co-operation on any level between Femdom Empire and any Nazi or Nazi Friendly region before then?

Yeah we did. We never had any relations with Nazi Regions before the attack

[Tinhampton]

We can't have a consensus, we need an opinion from all members of CAIN that is official and that is final.

Consider: There are about 20-odd member regions of CAIN, with thousands upon thousands of nations in their ranks (not all of them necessarily CAIN supporters).

[Farnhamia]

As was just explained, CAIN didn't instigate the invasion originally. While you are disputing the 'Nazi' Label on Kaiserreich, CAIN only got involved after KR (which it had labeled Nazi) got involved, if I'm reading the timeline of events Goto Mototsugu provided correctly.

CAIN obviously has a stake in Femdom Empire being liberated though.

I honestly don't think this lib attempt has anything to do with them seeing as it's done by an attention seeking incompetent. I have no doubt they'd try to vote stack it though.

*** Warned for flaming. ***

[Aclion]

As long as Femdom Empire proves willing to work with Nazi regions, CAIN is not going to stop from trying to undermine them at every chance.

As long as the CAIN is targeting them Femdom empire will be forced to work with Nazi regions. That's the real danger of CAIN.

[Cerian Quilor]

Certainly that's how it started, due to a series of misunderstandings and manipulations and poor-communication, but at this point, if Femdom Empire cut off all ties with Nazi Regions, they'd be fine.

[Kalinin K-7]

...if Femdom Empire cut off all ties with Nazi Regions, they'd be fine.

Exactly. But they aren't.

This is a long delayed response, but I've decided to move forward with this resolution, regardless of what CAIN thinks, independently.

It appears to be that Femdom Empire is moving with its refounding very slowly, so I do believe that by the time this draft is tidied up and I manage to get the troops needed (both from DankMemes, considering its growth, and other regions) Femdom Empire would still be in a position to be Liberated offensively.

[Bedetopia]

...if Femdom Empire cut off all ties with Nazi Regions, they'd be fine.

Exactly. But they aren't.

This is a long delayed response, but I've decided to move forward with this resolution, regardless of what CAIN thinks, independently.

It appears to be that Femdom Empire is moving with its refounding very slowly, so I do believe that by the time this draft is tidied up and I manage to get the troops needed (both from DankMemes, considering its growth, and other regions) Femdom Empire would still be in a position to be Liberated offensively.

I doubt CAIN would lend you their votes just so you can attempt to steal the spotlight. Actually, I think they might even boycott your resolutions since you've angered them.

[Nay-O-Bi]

I doubt CAIN would lend you their votes just so you can attempt to steal the spotlight. Actually, I think they might even boycott your resolutions since you've angered them.

Well, it's their free will.

[Cerian Quilor]

Bad idea is bad and you should feel bad for having it.

[Goto Mototsugu]

...if Femdom Empire cut off all ties with Nazi Regions, they'd be fine.

Exactly. But they aren't.

This is a long delayed response, but I've decided to move forward with this resolution, regardless of what CAIN thinks, independently.

It appears to be that Femdom Empire is moving with its refounding very slowly, so I do believe that by the time this draft is tidied up and I manage to get the troops needed (both from DankMemes, considering its growth, and other regions) Femdom Empire would still be in a position to be Liberated offensively.

You know what is the most pathetic thing about this resolution and response? You claim to be all fucking powerful but when we spent weeks fighting for that region and were as close as 1-3 updaters from taking it, you and your great army were nowhere to be found. You are an opportunistic player with zero practical updating skills. You'd probably fuck up a 30 second trigger. You're not a defender, no matter how much you bitch about raiders. You're in the perfect region, you know? You're a meme. You're something for us to laugh at and share with our friends to laugh at.

[Lesbian Separatism]

Terrible proposal.
Lesbian Separatism is abhorred and disgusted by this proposal and it's blatant attempt to jeopardize the safety of Radical Feminism movement.
Lesbian Separatism will do whatever it takes to bring down any and all legal attacks on fellow sisterhoods.

[Tim-Opolis]

I spent more than a week of consecutive major updates taking shots at that region, but Wardens have moved on as well. If the opportunity presents itself in a future situation to take the region without relying on a poorly-authored badge hunt, then we could look into the matter again, but I'm not keen on supporting anything by this author. La Navasse has earned himself what is effectively a black mark in the Warden's books after his antics and failure to listen to any simple advice or instructions when he was trying to secure Dank Memes, and I'm content to let this proposal sink to the depths and not be seen again. If it makes it to vote, you won't have my support and I'll be advocating delegates to vote against it.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

You know what is the most pathetic thing about this resolution and response? You claim to be all fucking powerful but when we spent weeks fighting for that region and were as close as 1-3 updaters from taking it, you and your great army were nowhere to be found. You are an opportunistic player with zero practical updating skills. You'd probably fuck up a 30 second trigger. You're not a defender, no matter how much you bitch about raiders. You're in the perfect region, you know? You're a meme. You're something for us to laugh at and share with our friends to laugh at.

DankMemes wasn't grown enough by then - our region doesn't grow that fast.

Secondly, I do not believe in pure raiding, or raiding simply for the fun of it, but rather ideological raiding and defending, or practicing R/D based on the ideology of the region.

And finally, if this is a "poorly-authored badge hunt," then tell me what's wrong.

[Tim-Opolis]

And finally, if this is a "poorly-authored badge hunt," then tell me what's wrong.

Given that I have no interest in seeing this pass at this time, it's not really in my interests to help you spruce up this particular proposal.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

And finally, if this is a "poorly-authored badge hunt," then tell me what's wrong.

One word - you.

[Goto Mototsugu]

You know what is the most pathetic thing about this resolution and response? You claim to be all fucking powerful but when we spent weeks fighting for that region and were as close as 1-3 updaters from taking it, you and your great army were nowhere to be found. You are an opportunistic player with zero practical updating skills. You'd probably fuck up a 30 second trigger. You're not a defender, no matter how much you bitch about raiders. You're in the perfect region, you know? You're a meme. You're something for us to laugh at and share with our friends to laugh at.

DankMemes wasn't grown enough by then - our region doesn't grow that fast.

Secondly, I do not believe in pure raiding, or raiding simply for the fun of it, but rather ideological raiding and defending, or practicing R/D based on the ideology of the region.

And finally, if this is a "poorly-authored badge hunt," then tell me what's wrong.

It still isn't grown enough for that The quickest perusal of your forums shows that exactly 0 people have applied to join "Slendermen" and at your last *ahem* "training run" you only had one updater and jumped on a ~2 minute trigger

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2/20/2017, 12:10:11 AM: Lalaq 2 relocated from The Awesome Cloud Cities to United States of Tyranny.

[Bedetopia]

Secondly, I do not believe in pure raiding, or raiding simply for the fun of it, but rather ideological raiding and defending, or practicing R/D based on the ideology of the region.

We're complete opposites, it seems. But that's just an aside.

Here's a question to the other players: What does raiderdom think of using raiding for ideological purposes? Is it as fun, despite the fact that failures are even more disheartening? Would you approve of abusing the SC like OP to get an ideological victory?