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LollerLand
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Postby LollerLand » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:13 am

Bohemund wrote:Even if a condemnation isn't strictly necessary due to Anarchestan voluntarily giving up TAL territory, it's worth voicing a condemnation of the action itself. If a thief were to give up what was stolen, that might make them an honourable thief but doesn't change the fact that stealing is wrong and shouldn't have been attempted in the first place. I refuse the advice of my region's ambassador and will vote for such a condemnation.

As to the representative of the Atlae Isles who've mentioned Anarchestan viewing such a condemnation as a 'badge of honour' only illustrates a contempt for the World Assembly. If they should derive pride from such a condemnation, then so be it but I would prefer this institution recognize a mischief-maker and malcontent for what they are and have a record noting as such. A diminished annoyance today becomes a problematic annoyance down the road.

If raiding a region makes you a thief, then we have much bigger thieves in NS than Anarchestan. He has done nothing significant to deserve a condemnation and there is also the fact that he would only see it as a badge of honor.
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Libertarain Republicans
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Postby Libertarain Republicans » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:17 am

The Atlae Isles wrote:
The Stalker wrote:I find it very annoying this made it to vote.

We need like a Security Council Czar who can veto poor resolutions like this that only make it to vote by telegram campaigning.


The mods already remove poor resolutions in the GA after the Secretariat releases their decision. Should there be a SC Seabiscuit?

On an unrelated topic, what sort of name is a seabiscut?
EDIT: I am going to switch my vote to against, now that I've seen what's in the forum.
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Postby Kitzerland » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:47 am

Libertarain Republicans wrote:
The Atlae Isles wrote:
The mods already remove poor resolutions in the GA after the Secretariat releases their decision. Should there be a SC Seabiscuit?

On an unrelated topic, what sort of name is a seabiscut?
EDIT: I am going to switch my vote to against, now that I've seen what's in the forum.

It's a horse. Same as secretariat. There's a brutal gang war between fans of each.
terrible takes plz ignore

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Postby Libertarain Republicans » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:36 am

Kitzerland wrote:
Libertarain Republicans wrote:On an unrelated topic, what sort of name is a seabiscut?
EDIT: I am going to switch my vote to against, now that I've seen what's in the forum.

It's a horse. Same as secretariat. There's a brutal gang war between fans of each.

Uh....wow

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Kitzerland
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Postby Kitzerland » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:48 am

Libertarain Republicans wrote:
Kitzerland wrote:It's a horse. Same as secretariat. There's a brutal gang war between fans of each.

Uh....wow

DISCLAIMER: There is not an actual fight between sea biscuit fans and secretariat fans. I need to say that so I don't get sued by any horses.
terrible takes plz ignore

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Postby States of Glory » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:16 am

The Atlae Isles wrote:
The Stalker wrote:I find it very annoying this made it to vote.

We need like a Security Council Czar who can veto poor resolutions like this that only make it to vote by telegram campaigning.


The mods already remove poor resolutions in the GA after the Secretariat releases their decision. Should there be a SC Seabiscuit?

The Mods only remove illegal proposals. The Secretariat can't do anything to prevent another World Space Administration from passing.
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:50 am

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Tinhampton "jumped on the approval bandwagon" after recieving a campaign TG for it. In addition, Delegate-Ambassador Smith (in lieu of any resolutions passed by The Other Chamber of the World Assembly, especially the one hundred and twenty-second one) has used his common sense to analyse this resolution. He has determined that Tinhampton - in their status as a World Assembly Delegate with 15 votes (yes, really) as of the time of writing - should vote FOR "Condemn Anarchestan". These were the reasons that D-A Smith gave:
Anarchestan was the spearhead of the operation to invade and destroy The Arab League, which was thwarted whilst the Liberation for the region was at vote. A quick read through the WFE archives1 will reveal that Anarchestan was working on behalf of the extreme Elite Region of Global Command, before fleeing to Nazi Europa after the liberation2. It is clear that the near-destruction of the region deserves a Condemnation for Anarchestan.
1: http://udl.taijitu.org/wfe_index/?the_arab_league
2: A liberation is a military operation organised by defenders; a Liberation is a resolution passed by the Security Council to remove passwording on regions.

Tinhampton is voting for this resolution, and also strongly urge other members of the Federation's Assembly of Nations to vote for it. However, this opinion is not binding, and Tinhampton cannot and will not throw you into the flames of the Rejected Realms for failing to vote the same way as them.
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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:44 pm

Proposals like this do nothing but demonstrate that you really can get anything to vote, if you have enough stamps. It's a shame that the author didn't really choose to take advice from SC regulars, even going as far as straight up dismissing Bhang Bhang Duc for some odd reason. Best of luck to them in future proposals to them though, as it's not as a whole too poorly formatted. However, as others have expressed, Anarchestan isn't really worth condemning in this circumstance, especially since it's likely someone's puppet nation.
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Postby Annihitor the Incred » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:34 pm

Hah, that one looks way too cool to condemn. Perhaps a resolution to exempt sufficiently cool-looking nations from condemnation? 8)
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Postby Appalachia » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:37 pm

The circumstances are a bit unusual but hey, I'm always down for condemning nazi nations.

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Postby SYG » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:02 pm

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As Ra makes his way across the heavily sky, and the cycle of the universe continues, the people of Osiris and its prosperity of the Nile, after consulting with the community, and the gods Seshat and Ma’at, have determined to vote AGAINST the current resolution. The Pharaoh will vote according to the people, and according to Ma’at. His actions are necessary in maintaining the balance between order and chaos, truth and darkness, and Osiris will follow the Pharaoh’s direction. The government of the Osiris Fraternal Order will consider no proposal without the text meeting the requirements of Ma’at. We will continue to uphold our moral responsibilities to the people, maintaining and voting in favor of any proposals that will forward the truth and honor that is expected of all who call Osiris home. Cosmic harmony is only obtainable through expressing the will of Ma’at and the will of the Pharaoh. Although we have derived at this decision, the author of the proposal is welcome to present a case that would enlighten the Pharaoh and the community to the purpose of the proposal and perhaps change the will of the gods, the Pharaoh, and the community. If this interests you, please visit our kingdom and speak your knowledge there. All information is important, and will be presented to Seshat, the goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing to help direct the Pharaoh to make the right decision for the people of the fraternal order. If you have any questions about Osiris in the World Assembly, please direct them to the office of the Vizier of World Assembly Affairs by sending Syg a telegram. For more general questions regarding Osiris, please direct them to the Pharaoh, Neo Kervoskia. Thank you fellow ambassadors, and author of the current proposal at vote, for your time. Osiris, her people, and the office of the Vizier greatly appreciate your time and patience.

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Unremarkable Land
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Postby Unremarkable Land » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:12 pm

Anarchestan is from Nazi Europa so I'm sure they are plenty condemtable. Or condemtalicious.

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Postby The Atlae Isles » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:43 pm

Unremarkable Land wrote:Anarchestan is from Nazi Europa so I'm sure they are plenty condemtable. Or condemtalicious.
Appalachia wrote:The circumstances are a bit unusual but hey, I'm always down for condemning nazi nations.


You can't just condemn Nazi regions or nations. Yes, some may consider them atrocious, but that's why there is CAIN (Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism). If you want to condemn all Nazi nations, then the SC would be clogged with proposals for condemning this or that nation. Also NatSov. (That's probably just for the GA; I apologize.)
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Postby Frank W » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:13 pm

This is an outrageous attempt to hurt a nation that has in fact done very little relative harm to anyone and should be dismissed as such. Nobody should ever listen to the inaccurate, outrageous words of its condemners and should therefore vote against the movement.

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Postby Thneedvila » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:55 pm

I think we should let it die ;) :ugeek:

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:58 pm

Which kind of anarchestan? It it's an ancom, chop his head. But if he is an ancap folk, chill and let it go 8)
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