[PROPOSED]Condemn i got nukes back off

[Wallenburg]

Won't matter if it gets pulled for illegality.

And I've already GHR'd this. There is no way this will pass if the super-delegates all vote against, which they likely will.

You know who and what else most everyone doubted and joked about? President-Elect Donald J. Trump and Brexit. Not saying this will pass, but I would not laugh too hard.

You don't seem to understand how the World Assembly works. There is absolutely no reason to believe that this mediocre proposal will pass.

[Oldenfranck]

You know who and what else most everyone doubted and joked about? President-Elect Donald J. Trump and Brexit. Not saying this will pass, but I would not laugh too hard.

You don't seem to understand how the World Assembly works. There is absolutely no reason to believe that this mediocre proposal will pass.

Only time will tell, but just saying, this all sounds like deja vu... but I could be wrong...

[Tim-Opolis]

You don't seem to understand how the World Assembly works. There is absolutely no reason to believe that this mediocre proposal will pass.

Only time will tell, but just saying, this all sounds like deja vu... but I could be wrong...

Don't worry, you're wrong.

[The Marsupial Illuminati]

You know who and what else most everyone doubted and joked about? President-Elect Donald J. Trump and Brexit. Not saying this will pass, but I would not laugh too hard.

NationStates is a game. The World Assembly and the Security Council are part of that game. Donald Trump and Brexit have nothing to do with this game. If you want to debate real life politics, head on over to the General forum. The fact that Brexit and Trump were successful has absolutely nothing to do with how the SC will vote. The way the GCR and major UCR delegates will vote is predictable. Take a glance at how Liberate Antalia is faring, and you will see how little tolerance the major players in this game have for worthless and nonsensical proposals.

This proposal is certain to fail if it ever makes quorum. It will not as it is R4 illegal, as Kaboolandia pointed out. Specifically R4(d): "Your proposal must be written from the perspective of the World Assembly." There are no words in this proposal indicating that it is written from the perspective of the WA or the SC.

[Kaboomlandia]

You don't seem to understand how the World Assembly works. There is absolutely no reason to believe that this mediocre proposal will pass.

Only time will tell, but just saying, this all sounds like deja vu... but I could be wrong...

I am the WA Minister for a region with 350+ votes, and I'm also part of a treaty organization that probably numbers over 1700 votes with the World Assembly Legislative League. It's a committee decision but we don't have a high tolerance for crap proposals, so I'm guessing we'll likely stomp this.

[Crazy girl]

I'm very meh on the "fake nations", would've liked to see it phrased a bit better, but then again, we allow puppet nations which sounds similarly weird. I'll leave this one up to the delegates.

That said, please play nice, kids. I know that sometimes you come across a proposal that looks like rubbish to you, but someone might've actually put effort in it. Just bashing it without connstructive feed back will just put off other new players. This is not a ruling, but a request. Thank you.

[Kaboomlandia]

I'm very meh on the "fake nations", would've liked to see it phrased a bit better, but then again, we allow puppet nations which sounds similarly weird. I'll leave this one up to the delegates.

That said, please play nice, kids. I know that sometimes you come across a proposal that looks like rubbish to you, but someone might've actually put effort in it. Just bashing it without connstructive feed back will just put off other new players. This is not a ruling, but a request. Thank you.

Understood. I'll tone it down.

[States of Glory]

It's illegal for R4, and the proposal was a hot mess anyway.

Well, I am still for it. And there is a decent chance that this bill will pull a donald trump, and pass by a slim margin.

If you're referring to the popular vote, Trump lost. If you're referring to the Electoral College vote, it was hardly a slim margin.

Anyway, I can't for the life of me figure out what the first two paragraphs are trying to say, so as TWP's Minister for WA Affairs, I have advised my Delegate to vote against.

[Nilla Wayfarers]

It stands directly in contradiction with the precedents and values of this Assembly for us to support a draft that is so clearly inadequate. Even if you were to improve it, it would still receive a vote against from Nilla Wayfarers for the apparent lack of importance of those you're condemning.

[New Socialist Saxony]

First off, I want to apologize to the entire delegation for this proposal. I am not intending to condemn this region for raiding or having a fake nation. I am wanting to condemn this region due to there acts against my region, one of those acts was to falsely portray my nation and region as the invaders of Justice when that clearly isn't the case, i thought by writing a summary of the situation would explain the condemnation on how they excessively harmed the region of justice on top of what they attempted to do to my region. This is my first time proposing a proposal in the delegation and when i posted a draft in the forum I didn't think it would even be looked at. To my ignorance and excitement to try and get my first proposal passed I did submit it for this I apologize, and have made a mistake on my part. In the future I promise to post a draft and listen to all your opinions before posting. Again I am very sorry for the wasted effort and time that this proposal may have caused for you. I have learned my lesson and next time I hope I will be able to get all of your inputs. Thank you for all of your input even after I submitted it and again I am sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused.

Sincerely, New Socialist Saxony

[Holly United]

I use to be the WA Delegate of a very thriving region. I had plans to expand Justice and even create a world map and a democratic regional government of course after I was elected. But 2 days into my delagacy we were invaded by I got nukes back off and with no hesitation they ejected and banned me to falsely portray Kappa to damper relations with the Union of Saxon Justice. This proposal can and should pass. I got nukes back off has made me give up on my region. I use to be excited to lead and now we are looking for a new WA Delegate to replace me due to my inactivity. I lack the motivation to try after I got nukes back off excessively damaged my Region. I am asking the regional Delegate here today to condemn this region for causing the rapid decline in population in my region from 17 to 9. Making it harder to regain the motivation to even try. Honestly please condemn this region for there crimes. For ruining the experience for me to have a thriving region. Please.

[New Socialist Saxony]

I use to be the WA Delegate of a very thriving region. I had plans to expand Justice and even create a world map and a democratic regional government of course after I was elected. But 2 days into my delagacy we were invaded by I got nukes back off and with no hesitation they ejected and banned me to falsely portray Kappa to damper relations with the Union of Saxon Justice. This proposal can and should pass. I got nukes back off has made me give up on my region. I use to be excited to lead and now we are looking for a new WA Delegate to replace me due to my inactivity. I lack the motivation to try after I got nukes back off excessively damaged my Region. I am asking the regional Delegate here today to condemn this region for causing the rapid decline in population in my region from 17 to 9. Making it harder to regain the motivation to even try. Honestly please condemn this region for there crimes. For ruining the experience for me to have a thriving region. Please.

I will continue my efforts to get this resolution passed, it may not be perfect but a quorum has been reached with no illegalities. So thank you all for the support, if this resolution does not pass in the Security Council. We may try again with the drafted version where we can get everyone's input and opinion before submitting. I promise though I will try and get this proposal passed as it is for now.

[Sedgistan]

Talking to yourself with puppets is frowned upon in the WA.

[New Socialist Saxony]

Talking to yourself with puppets is frowned upon in the WA.

1st off How can I be talking to myself with a puppet. Holly United is there own WA Delegate. It's impossible to have two accounts in the WA at the same time. You need to get your facts straight. Holly United is an independent sovereign nation in the World Assembly as am I. If you want to find any excuse possible to continue against this proposal you can do so to your own accord. I have apologized for my mistakes originally, however I will not be accused of talking to myself. If Holly United was a puppet they wouldn't of been able to be a WA Delegate like me so don't accuse me of talking to my self. Because that's not the case.

[Sciongrad]

My lord, can you all be nice for once? Someone actually gets involved in the WA and gets yelled at for it? Really?

I'm inclined to agree with this. This proposal is not well written, but the response to a player that clearly doesn't have a firm grasp of the rules is pretty disgusting. I'm not exactly sure why it became cool to abuse new players, but I can guarantee you trashing a new player is less effective than politely nudging them in the right direction. You might get a brief rush out of stomping on a clueless player over, it's probably best to suppress that temptation because it's not helpful for the player or the community.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

My lord, can you all be nice for once? Someone actually gets involved in the WA and gets yelled at for it? Really?

I'm inclined to agree with this. This proposal is not well written, but the response to a player that clearly doesn't have a firm grasp of the rules is pretty disgusting. I'm not exactly sure why it became cool to abuse new players, but I can guarantee you trashing a new player is less effective than politely nudging them in the right direction. You might get a brief rush out of stomping on a clueless player over, it's probably best to suppress that temptation because it's not helpful for the player or the community.

Great idea! Let's see the GA implement that first.

[Sciongrad]

I'm inclined to agree with this. This proposal is not well written, but the response to a player that clearly doesn't have a firm grasp of the rules is pretty disgusting. I'm not exactly sure why it became cool to abuse new players, but I can guarantee you trashing a new player is less effective than politely nudging them in the right direction. While you might get a brief rush out of stomping on a clueless player, it's probably best to suppress that temptation because it's not helpful for the player or the community.

Great idea! Let's see the GA implement that first.

I don't think you could have produced a more vapid response. What in my post suggested that my criticism was directed exclusively at the SC? You will be hard pressed to find a more vocal critic of the elitism in the GA than me. But why accept responsibility for bullying strangers online when you can simply deflect it elsewhere, right?

A better idea than waiting might be to change your behavior now, though! :D

[Holly United]

Talking to yourself with puppets is frowned upon in the WA.

I am no puppet, I am a Delegate asking other Delegates to help me in condemning the region of I got nukes back off for robbing me and my Region from having a prosperous growing region, instead I have been left with the destruction I got nukes back off left behind. With a rapidly decreasing population. 1st off Thank you everyone who is helping me and my Region. And thank you all who aren't just shunning this proposal and especially thank you for giving your input and advice on how to make it better, thank you for making the game fun for me and helping me understand the SC more then I do. It's very obvious that this proposal isn't liked by a majority. Mainly because of how it is written, however I have seen more poorly written proposals pass in my time but if this doesn't pass we will try again this time the right way, with everyone having a say on how to make this proposal perfect. Thank you for helping my Region

[Abbas Khan]

Talking to yourself with puppets is frowned upon in the WA.

I am no puppet, I am a Delegate asking other Delegates to help me in condemning the region of I got nukes back off for robbing me and my Region from having a prosperous growing region, instead I have been left with the destruction I got nukes back off left behind. With a rapidly decreasing population. 1st off Thank you everyone who is helping me and my Region. And thank you all who aren't just shunning this proposal and especially thank you for giving your input and advice on how to make it better, thank you for making the game fun for me and helping me understand the SC more then I do. It's very obvious that this proposal isn't liked by a majority. Mainly because of how it is written, however I have seen more poorly written proposals pass in my time but if this doesn't pass we will try again this time the right way, with everyone having a say on how to make this proposal perfect. Thank you for helping my Region

I think I'm gonna take the moderator who can view the puppets' word before your own.

[Imperium Anglorum]

I think I'm gonna take the moderator who can view the puppets' word before your own.

No, you're the puppet. You're the puppet. We got them now!

[Abbas Khan]

I think I'm gonna take the moderator who can view the puppets' word before your own.

No, you're the puppet. You're the puppet. We got them now!

Dammit. They found us out, Jimmy.

[The Stalker]

Great so this is next up after Condemn Anarchestan...

See now if I was Security Council Czar I would have vetoed both.

[Abbas Khan]

Is GP really so boring right now that this is what goes to vote? We need another GCR coup or some shit. looks at Osiris hopefully

[Wallenburg]

Great so this is next up after Condemn Anarchestan...

See now if I was Security Council Czar I would have vetoed both.

Take it to Technical please.

[Imperium Anglorum]

See now if I was Security Council Czar I would have vetoed both.

Just run a counter-campaign to deal with the problem.