[PROPOSED]Condemn i got nukes back off

[New Socialist Saxony]

This is a draft if the first proposal does not pass, please tweak it and make it perfect for the security council to accept, and approve. Thank you very much

Noting the region i got nukes back off and members of i got nukes back off attempted a shocking event to raid the region of Justice.

Recognizing the creation of a puppet nation called Dragon Territory to place in power.

Aware that it required forces from i got nukes back off to endorse the Colony of Dragon Territory which include Talos Prime, and The DOVAH Sector.

Committed once in power the colony of Dragon Territory went on to excessively harm and wreck havoc on the growing region of Justice. First, by removing the elected WA Delegate, Holly United from power and then attempting to strike the glaringly unjust raid on Kappa Region by hijacking Justice's World Factbook Entry to accuse Kappa Region of the invasion, as opposed to themselves.

Shocked that this was a conspiracy to falsely portray the raid on Kappa Region and attempt to damper relations with other regions,

Dismayed at the fact that this was unnecessarily disruptive for the growth of Justice as the population of Justice has dropped from 17 to 8,

Appalled by the region's usage of Justice as a tool to advance their own ends,

Herby Condemns i got nukes back off for conspiracy and for disproportionately severing the region of Justice.

43 Days ago in the history of Justice the region i got nukes back off and members of i got nukes back off attempted a shocking event to raid the region of Justice even going so far to create a fake nation called Dragon Territory to place in power. However it required members from i got nukes back off which include Talos Prime, and The DOVAH Sector. The Colony of Dragon Territory was a fake nation used to put in power which now ceases to exist to further the point.

Once in power the colony of Dragon Territory with regional effort from i got nukes back off went on to excessively harm and wreck havoc on the stagnant growing region of Justice first by removing the elected WA Delegate Holly United from power and ejecting and banning Holly United and then attempting to portray the glaringly unjust raid on Kappa Region by updating the fact-book to falsely portray that New Socialist Saxony and members of Kappa Region have raided the region of Justice.

Shocked that this was a conspiracy to falsely portray the raid on Kappa Region and attempt to damper relations with other regions including the Union of Saxon Justice.

Dismayed at the fact that this was unnecessarily disruptive for the growth of Justice as the population of Justice has dropped from 17 to 10.

Hereby condemns the region of i got nukes back off for conspiracy and complete attempt to disproportionately severe the region of Justice.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

It's a shame you didn't post the draft before submitting. It's very poorly written, a complete train wreck. However, somehow you've managed to avoid any illegalities that I can see at the moment.

I'll look closer when I have more time, but no support for this attempt at a Condemnation.

[Kaboomlandia]

43 Days ago in the history of Justice the region i got nukes back off and members of i got nukes back off attempted a shocking event to raid the region of Justice even going so far to create a fake nation called Dragon Territory to place in power. However it required members from i got nukes back off which include Talos Prime, and The DOVAH Sector. The Colony of Dragon Territory was a fake nation used to put in power which now ceases to exist to further the point.

Once in power the colony of Dragon Territory with regional effort from i got nukes back off went on to excessively harm and wreck havoc on the stagnant growing region of Justice first by removing the elected WA Delegate Holly United from power and ejecting and banning Holly United and then attempting to portray the glaringly unjust raid on Kappa Region by updating the fact-book to falsely portray that New Socialist Saxony and members of Kappa Region have raided the region of Justice.

Shocked that this was a conspiracy to falsely portray the raid on Kappa Region and attempt to damper relations with other regions including the Union of Saxon Justice.

Dismayed at the fact that this was unnecessarily disruptive for the growth of Justice as the population of Justice has dropped from 17 to 10.

Hereby condemns the region of i got nukes back off for conspiracy and complete attempt to disproportionately severe the region of Justice.

Bolded are what I think are R4 violations in this proposal.

[Wallenburg]

This is barely written in English. Exactly what the hell are you condemning this region for? It looks like a tiny, insignificant region of wannabe invaders who botched their first raid. Not exactly the kind of people you go around condemning via the SC.

[Aclion]

This is barely written in English. Exactly what the hell are you condemning this region for? It looks like a tiny, insignificant region of wannabe invaders who botched their first raid. Not exactly the kind of people you go around condemning via the SC.

I believe the reason for the condemnation is not for the raid, but rather that they posed as members of other regions during the raid, so even though the raid was never successful it was still harmful.

Still R4 violations abound. I suggest OP ask a mod to pull the draft before he gets dinged.

[Imperium Anglorum]

If you are not aware, 10 hours ago, New Socialist Saxony paid for a campaign for this proposal. I've copied the text below:

Salutations Delegate of %NATION%!

We invite your attention to our proposal click here

This proposal is to condemn the region of i got nukes back off for unnecessarily disrupting and excessively harming the region of Justice. We implore you to condemn i got nukes back off, just check the regional happenings of Justice as the claims in our proposal are very evident. Please read through the proposal and approve, and feel free to let me know if I can be of any help in the future. I am also always open to embassy request and will always approve!

Thank you for taking the time to do this and have a great day!

Sincerely, New Socialist Saxony

[United Massachusetts]

It's a shame you didn't post the draft before submitting. It's very poorly written, a complete train wreck. However, somehow you've managed to avoid any illegalities that I can see at the moment.

I'll look closer when I have more time, but no support for this attempt at a Condemnation.

This is barely written in English. Exactly what the hell are you condemning this region for? It looks like a tiny, insignificant region of wannabe invaders who botched their first raid. Not exactly the kind of people you go around condemning via the SC.

My lord, can you all be nice for once? Someone actually gets involved in the WA and gets yelled at for it? Really?

As for the proposal, I could use a little work, but I don't see a violation.

This is barely written in English. Exactly what the hell are you condemning this region for? It looks like a tiny, insignificant region of wannabe invaders who botched their first raid. Not exactly the kind of people you go around condemning via the SC.

I believe the reason for the condemnation is not for the raid, but rather that they posed as members of other regions during the raid, so even though the raid was never successful it was still harmful.

Still R4 violations abound. I suggest OP ask a mod to pull the draft before he gets dinged.

I don't think that's a R4 violation. "Fake nation" could easily be interpreted as a puppet

[Wallenburg]

My lord, can you all be nice for once? Someone actually gets involved in the WA Assembly and gets yelled at for it? Really?

We're not yelling at them because they got involved in the WA. We're yelling at them because they wrote an awful, nonsensical proposal and didn't even show us the courtesy of posting a draft before submitting it.

[United Massachusetts]

My lord, can you all be nice for once? Someone actually gets involved in the WA Assembly and gets yelled at for it? Really?

We're not yelling at them because they got involved in the WA. We're yelling at them because they wrote an awful, nonsensical proposal and didn't even show us the courtesy of posting a draft before submitting it.

Do you see what I mean? You go and call a resolution "awful" and "nonsensical" rather than suggesting how to improve it for future proposal. No one's going to post drafts on these forums if they just get ridiculed for it

[Wallenburg]

We're not yelling at them because they got involved in the WA. We're yelling at them because they wrote an awful, nonsensical proposal and didn't even show us the courtesy of posting a draft before submitting it.

Do you see what I mean? You go and call a resolution "awful" and "nonsensical" rather than suggesting how to improve it for future proposal.

I have no reason to give specific input on the flaws of this proposal, because I know that it cannot be improved. What incentive do I have to waste my time giving a detailed, piece-by-piece analysis of this proposal when the author doesn't even bother actually drafting?

No one's going to post drafts on these forums if they just get ridiculed for it

I'm not ridiculing the author for posting a draft. There is no draft at all.

[Canton Empire]

You should help. If you can dare call yourself a member of the GA community you should help rather then hurt. It's shameful, because people like you make NS a toxic place.

[Wallenburg]

You should help. If you can dare call yourself a member of the GA community you should help rather then hurt. It's shameful, because people like you make NS a toxic place.

Excuse me? I'm not the one here who submitted a proposal without showing the basic decency to draft it beforehand. There is absolutely nothing I can do to help if the author doesn't even want help.

[United Massachusetts]

You should help. If you can dare call yourself a member of the GA community you should help rather then hurt. It's shameful, because people like you make NS a toxic place.

Excuse me? I'm not the one here who submitted a proposal without showing the basic decency to draft it beforehand. There is absolutely nothing I can do to help if the author doesn't even want help.

Yes, Wallenburg does have a point. Let's stop threadjacking and get to work on fixing up this proposal for the future.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Excuse me? I'm not the one here who submitted a proposal without showing the basic decency to draft it beforehand. There is absolutely nothing I can do to help if the author doesn't even want help.

Yes, Wallenburg does have a point. Let's stop threadjacking and get to work on fixing up this proposal for the future.

No chance. There are proposals that, with work, can be improved and there are others that should be burnt and the ashes scattered. The above falls into the latter category.

[United Massachusetts]

Proposed Edits:

43 Days ago in the history of Justice, the region i got nukes back off and members of i got nukes back off attempted a shocking event to raid the region of Justice, even going so far to create a fake puppet nation called Dragon Territory to place in power. However, it this nation required members from i got nukes back off , which include Talos Prime, and The DOVAH Sector (Put here what they required the nations to do). The Colony of Dragon Territory was a fake nation used to put in power which now ceases to exist to further the point. Thankfully, Dragon Territory, a tool for the destruction of Justice, was destroyed by an act of God, though this still provides no consolation for Justice, whose community suffered losses from the invasion.

Once in power, the a colony of Dragon Territory with regional effort from i got nukes back off went on to excessively harm and wreack havoc on the stagnantgrowing region of Justice. First, by removing they removed the elected WA Delegate, Holly United from powerand ejecting and banning Holly Unitedand then attempteding to portray strike the glaringly unjust raid on Kappa Region by hijacking Justice's World Factbook Entry updating the fact-book to falsely portray that New Socialist Saxony and members of Kappa Region have raided the region of Justice. accuse Kappa Region of the invasion, as opposed to themselves.

Shocked that this was a conspiracy to falsely portray the raid on Kappa Region and attempt to damper relations with other regions, including the Union of Saxon Justice.

Dismayed at the fact that this was unnecessarily disruptive for the growth of Justice as the population of Justice has dropped from 17 to 10.,

Appalled by the region's usage of Justice as a tool to advance their own ends,

Hereby condemns the region of i got nukes back off for conspiracy and complete attempt to disproportionately severe attack the region of Justice.

[United Massachusetts]

Yes, Wallenburg does have a point. Let's stop threadjacking and get to work on fixing up this proposal for the future.

No chance. There are proposals that, with work, can be improved and there are others that should be burnt and the ashes scattered. The above falls into the latter category.

Whether it passes or not, let's try to at least be civil and show the good capacities of this forum, so that maybe others post drafts here for help. Call me an idealist, but it works

[Wallenburg]

Excuse me? I'm not the one here who submitted a proposal without showing the basic decency to draft it beforehand. There is absolutely nothing I can do to help if the author doesn't even want help.

Yes, Wallenburg does have a point. Let's stop threadjacking and get to work on fixing up this proposal for the future.

TIL criticizing a proposal in its own thread is threadjacking. As it is, it seems quite clear that the author will not be returning to improve their proposal even if it fails.

[United Massachusetts]

Yes, Wallenburg does have a point. Let's stop threadjacking and get to work on fixing up this proposal for the future.

TIL criticizing a proposal in its own thread is threadjacking. As it is, it seems quite clear that the author will not be returning to improve their proposal even if it fails.

Both of us were threadjacking (albiet unintentionally) with the talk about kindness toward proposees.

Also, if he comes back, great. If not, we tried.

[Wallenburg]

TIL criticizing a proposal in its own thread is threadjacking. As it is, it seems quite clear that the author will not be returning to improve their proposal even if it fails.

Both of us were threadjacking (albiet unintentionally) with the talk about kindness toward proposees.

Also, if he comes back, great. If not, we tried.

Well, when the author's OP is their only post on the forums, and they have not responded to the discussion in 36 hours, I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Of course, if they do come back and petition for help, I'd be more open to spending time making improvements to the proposal.

[Oldenfranck]

Well, it looks like it is getting to the floor, so that is good news.

[Kaboomlandia]

Well, it looks like it is getting to the floor, so that is good news.

It's illegal for R4, and the proposal was a hot mess anyway.

[Oldenfranck]

Well, it looks like it is getting to the floor, so that is good news.

It's illegal for R4, and the proposal was a hot mess anyway.

Well, I am still for it. And there is a decent chance that this bill will pull a donald trump, and pass by a slim margin.

[Kaboomlandia]

It's illegal for R4, and the proposal was a hot mess anyway.

Well, I am still for it. And there is a decent chance that this bill will pull a donald trump, and pass by a slim margin.

Won't matter if it gets pulled for illegality.

And I've already GHR'd this. There is no way this will pass if the super-delegates all vote against, which they likely will.

[Oldenfranck]

Well, I am still for it. And there is a decent chance that this bill will pull a donald trump, and pass by a slim margin.

Won't matter if it gets pulled for illegality.

And I've already GHR'd this. There is no way this will pass if the super-delegates all vote against, which they likely will.

You know who and what else most everyone doubted and joked about? President-Elect Donald J. Trump and Brexit. Not saying this will pass, but I would not laugh too hard.

[Abbas Khan]

Won't matter if it gets pulled for illegality.

And I've already GHR'd this. There is no way this will pass if the super-delegates all vote against, which they likely will.

You know who and what else most everyone doubted and joked about? President-Elect Donald J. Trump and Brexit. Not saying this will pass, but I would not laugh too hard.

It might reach quorum because any ole delegate can approve it, but there is no way in hell that it will pass the actual vote. All it will be is another waste of the SC's time like those ridiculous TI self condemns.