[PASSED] Commend Forest

[Aclion]

Maybe the text should be clearer on that then. I was left with the impression they were being commended for simply having many nations that write issues related to the environment.

I've added a new clause to address just that.

Personally I would make it the third clause, so you've mentioned the regions involvement before you get into the detail of what's been accomplished by it.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

I've added a new clause to address just that.

Personally I would make it the third clause, so you've mentioned the regions involvement before you get into the detail of what's been accomplished by it.

I don't know it dosen't seem to flow good when I try to do that.

I have added some more to the proposal, I'm thinking about submitting this Late Saturday or Sunday.

[Abhichandra]

who have in their time of writing issues have authored issues focusing on the environment such as

Do you need to say: "who have in their time of writing issues" ? I would just change this to:

who have in their time of writing issues have authored issues focusing on the environment such as

[The Rouge Christmas State]

who have in their time of writing issues have authored issues focusing on the environment such as

Do you need to say: "who have in their time of writing issues" ? I would just change this to:

who have in their time of writing issues have authored issues focusing on the environment such as

I agree it makes it not as wordy. Changed.

[The Stalker]

Strong support for this, Forest is a really great region with a good group very much deserving of a Commendation.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

Strong support for this, Forest is a really great region with a good group very much deserving of a Commendation.

I appreciate the support!

[United Massachusetts]

The Security Council,

Impressed with Forest's dedication toward promoting the well-being of environments throughout NationStates, even though they lost their original founder early on in their existence, they persevered, and have been a bastion of democracy for others,

Acknowledging the role Forest has played since 2005 in bringing awareness to a variety of environmental issues and stories, through their newsletter entitled, "Forest News Leaf"," and the encouragement of nations to embrace and preserve their environments,

Further Impressed with Forest’s dedication to their allies such as Philosophy 115, Hippy Haven, and Yggdrasil, further strengthening their friendships through international photo contests,

Further Acknowledging that Forest doesn't just promote eco-friendliness, but is also home to some of the most environmentally friendly and environmentally beautiful nations throughout NationStates world, such as Araneidae and Mozworld, and recognizes nations for their achievements in Eco-Friendly categories in the list of “Exceptionally Green Nations in Forest,”

Noting that Forest is home to numerous nations that have contributed to NationStates in some many ways, including Ransium, Mount Seymour, and Zwangzug, who have brought to light previously unknown of issues focusing on the environment such as, “Songbirds’ Decline Ruffles Feathers” and “A Clearcut Dilemma”,

Recognizing that the Forest has soared above the rest for authoring showing to the nations of the world issues regarding the environment, ;they also have had their impact on the World Assembly, with notable authors such as Caracasus, who wrote a resolution promoting research of unique ecosystems,

Further Noting that the issue and World Assembly authors in the Forest help, inspire, and critique one another in their authorship, bringing forth a creative and intelligent environment for progress,

Believing that Forest should get the recognition they deserve because of their devotion tofor the issues brought to light and the World Assembly authorship to further their goals of protecting the environment and saving the lush ecosystems of the worldpromoting eco-friendliness,

Hereby Ccommends Forest

Co-Authored by United Massachusetts

[The Stalker]

Further Impressed with the Forest’s dedication to their allies such as Philosophy 115, Hippy Heaven, and Yggdrasil, further strengthening their friendship through international photo contest,

Oh hey I just noticed it says Heaven in the OP, it's Hippy Haven. A common mistake which kinda became a nickname for the place, in retrospect would have been fitting.

Though UM's post had it correct.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

Further Impressed with the Forest’s dedication to their allies such as Philosophy 115, Hippy Heaven, and Yggdrasil, further strengthening their friendship through international photo contest,

Oh hey I just noticed it says Heaven in the OP, it's Hippy Haven. A common mistake which kinda became a nickname for the place, in retrospect would have been fitting.

Though UM's post had it correct.

That's what I get for doing edits on NS and not updating the word doc. for the proposal, thanks for catching it.

[Gnejs]

Mount Seymour's issue is called A Clear-Cut Conundrum. It'd be sad to have the wrong name enshrined in the WA-books, should this pass.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

Mount Seymour's issue is called A Clear-Cut Conundrum. It'd be sad to have the wrong name enshrined in the WA-books, should this pass.

Thanks for catching that, it has been fixed.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

I've submitted the proposal, it can be found here. https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1490848946

[Abhichandra]

I've submitted the proposal, it can be found here. https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1490848946

Good luck!

[Leutria]

Have you been campaigning? I will admit I liked this proposal and was surprised at it's slow gain of approvals.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

I received a message from the NS Logistics people saying, "Your SC proposal has been removed from the queue due to it violating Rule 1 -- as per recent rulings, citing of any issues-related activity by Issues Editors is not allowed." So I guess I can't put Ransium or Zwangzug in the proposal because of this.

[Leutria]

I received a message from the NS Logistics people saying, "Your SC proposal has been removed from the queue due to it violating Rule 1 -- as per recent rulings, citing of any issues-related activity by Issues Editors is not allowed." So I guess I can't put Ransium or Zwangzug in the proposal because of this.

Well that is an annoying implication of that recent ruling >.>

[Tinhampton]

I received a message from the NS Logistics people saying, "Your SC proposal has been removed from the queue due to it violating Rule 1 -- as per recent rulings, citing of any issues-related activity by Issues Editors is not allowed." So I guess I can't put Ransium or Zwangzug in the proposal because of this.

And even if you said diddly about Zwangzug or Ransium, I'd imagine that it would be pulled regardless for talking about nations that have "contributed to NationStates" - on the one hand, it could be seen as stating NationStates as a game; on the other hand, it could refer to individual states.

Have you considered talking about the sporting achievements of Forest? You know, Errinundera and Zwangzug (again)?

[Leutria]

I received a message from the NS Logistics people saying, "Your SC proposal has been removed from the queue due to it violating Rule 1 -- as per recent rulings, citing of any issues-related activity by Issues Editors is not allowed." So I guess I can't put Ransium or Zwangzug in the proposal because of this.

I'd imagine that it would be pulled regardless for talking about nations that have "contributed to NationStates"

Actually, no. It has been ruled that referring to NationStates is legal. Look it up under Rule 4 of the pinned post "Compendium of Mod Rulings & General Advice within the SC". NationStates community is also legal.

[Drasnia]

I don't get how this violates R1. It it is specifically referencing issues added before Ransium and Zwang became editors. The only thing I can see could be problematic (but I disagree violates R1) is the Further Noting clause. However, even that specifically refers to things authors can do " help, inspire, and critique one another in their authorship, bringing forth a creative and intelligent environment for progress,"

Yeah, I'm not seeing how this violates R1. I'd like a clarification from one of the SC mods.

[Leutria]

I don't get how this violates R1. It it is specifically referencing issues added before Ransium and Zwang became editors. The only thing I can see could be problematic (but I disagree violates R1) is the Further Noting clause. However, even that specifically refers to things authors can do " help, inspire, and critique one another in their authorship, bringing forth a creative and intelligent environment for progress,"

Yeah, I'm not seeing how this violates R1. I'd like a clarification from one of the SC mods.

Not a mod of course, but the explanation for Rule 1 was recently edited to include following after Commend Candlewhisper Archive happened: "Given the expanded role of Issues Editors, Rule 1 covers any issues related actions carried out by Issues Editors, even if a regular player could have done them, and even if some of the actions were done when not an Issues Editor."

So even if I don't think that is a logical conclusion to take from Rule 1, it is what the Compendium of Mod Rulings & General Advice within the SC says about it :/

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I don't get how this violates R1. It it is specifically referencing issues added before Ransium and Zwang became editors. The only thing I can see could be problematic (but I disagree violates R1) is the Further Noting clause. However, even that specifically refers to things authors can do " help, inspire, and critique one another in their authorship, bringing forth a creative and intelligent environment for progress,"

Yeah, I'm not seeing how this violates R1. I'd like a clarification from one of the SC mods.

Not a mod of course, but the explanation for Rule 1 was recently edited to include following after Commend Candlewhisper Archive happened: "Given the expanded role of Issues Editors, Rule 1 covers any issues related actions carried out by Issues Editors, even if a regular player could have done them, and even if some of the actions were done when not an Issues Editor."

So even if I don't think that is a logical conclusion to take from Rule 1, it is what the Compendium of Mod Rulings & General Advice within the SC says about it :/

Can confirm this is what sunk the Commend Candlewhisper proposal. Unfortunately I didn't realise Ransium and Zwangzug were Issues Editors - I'd have flagged this up otherwise.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

I received a message from the NS Logistics people saying, "Your SC proposal has been removed from the queue due to it violating Rule 1 -- as per recent rulings, citing of any issues-related activity by Issues Editors is not allowed." So I guess I can't put Ransium or Zwangzug in the proposal because of this.

And even if you said diddly about Zwangzug or Ransium, I'd imagine that it would be pulled regardless for talking about nations that have "contributed to NationStates" - on the one hand, it could be seen as stating NationStates as a game; on the other hand, it could refer to individual states.

Have you considered talking about the sporting achievements of Forest? You know, Errinundera and Zwangzug (again)?

I did consider putting the sporting achievements, but they way I understand rule 4 it would fall under roleplay.

I don't get how this violates R1. It it is specifically referencing issues added before Ransium and Zwang became editors. The only thing I can see could be problematic (but I disagree violates R1) is the Further Noting clause. However, even that specifically refers to things authors can do " help, inspire, and critique one another in their authorship, bringing forth a creative and intelligent environment for progress,"

Yeah, I'm not seeing how this violates R1. I'd like a clarification from one of the SC mods.

Not a mod of course, but the explanation for Rule 1 was recently edited to include following after Commend Candlewhisper Archive happened: "Given the expanded role of Issues Editors, Rule 1 covers any issues related actions carried out by Issues Editors, even if a regular player could have done them, and even if some of the actions were done when not an Issues Editor."

So even if I don't think that is a logical conclusion to take from Rule 1, it is what the Compendium of Mod Rulings & General Advice within the SC says about it :/

I'll make some changes to the proposal to try and keep Ransium in the proposal due to their significant influence on the region, but just acknowledge them in a leadership role, not an issue writing one.

[Tinhampton]

And even if you said diddly about Zwangzug or Ransium, I'd imagine that it would be pulled regardless for talking about nations that have "contributed to NationStates" - on the one hand, it could be seen as stating NationStates as a game; on the other hand, it could refer to individual states.

Have you considered talking about the sporting achievements of Forest? You know, Errinundera and Zwangzug (again)?

I did consider putting the sporting achievements, but they way I understand rule 4 it would fall under roleplay.

AFAIK, so as long as you're keeping to the rules, especially R4c - this means not calling roleplay "roleplay" in a proposal - you're free to mention sports in SC proposals.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

I did consider putting the sporting achievements, but they way I understand rule 4 it would fall under roleplay.

AFAIK, so as long as you're keeping to the rules, especially R4c - this means not calling roleplay "roleplay" in a proposal - you're free to mention sports in SC proposals.

I'll see what I can come up with then.

[The Rouge Christmas State]

Ok I've edited the original so that it shouldn't be in violation of any rules now.