[Proposal] Condemn Nazi Europa

[Mitoland]

Appalled by Nazi Europa's support of Nazi beliefs, which are exceedingly racist and stereotyping;

Horrified by the Regional Message Board of Nazi Europa, where its nations post offensive phrases such as Heil Hitler;

Disgusted by Nazi Europa's abhorrence towards Leftism, and how they may invade any Leftist region;

Acknowledging the recent raids organised by Nazi Europa, conducted on Leftist regions, just because Nazi Europa despise Leftism:

i. Raid on Communist Beach;

ii. Raid on Freecomunism;

iii. Raid on Imperial France;

Also acknowledging the many other raids conducted by Nazi Europa in small groups, on Leftist regions as well;

Hereby condemns Nazi Europa.

Support would be greatly appreciated!

[Sedgistan]

You've got some Rule 4 violations in there, which has resulted in the proposal being removed. I'd suggest taking advice from SC regulars before re-submitting.

[Dark Commander]

More often than not, resolutions primarily based on ideology do not pass in the SC.

[The Silver Sentinel]

More often than not, resolutions primarily based on ideology do not pass in the SC.

I am sure you have tons of experience to back up that claim?

[Tea Drinking Brits]

More often than not, resolutions primarily based on ideology do not pass in the SC.

Eh, it's happened many times.

[XCan-Amx]

More often than not, resolutions primarily based on ideology do not pass in the SC.

I am sure you have tons of experience to back up that claim?

Dark Commander here. Yes, I have had more than my fair share in the years since I made this account. Why do you have to be so bitingly sarcastic?

More often than not, resolutions primarily based on ideology do not pass in the SC.

Eh, it's happened many times.

Oh, it's happened, but hard facts normally trump everything else.

[We Are Not the NSA]

I am sure you have tons of experience to back up that claim?

Dark Commander here. Yes, I have had more than my fair share in the years since I made this account. Why do you have to be so bitingly sarcastic?

Eh, it's happened many times.

Oh, it's happened, but hard facts normally trump everything else.

Yes... but what you just said was not a hard fact. It was opinion. Ideological resolutions are passed all the time, so long as they are decently written.

[Dark Commander]

Dark Commander here. Yes, I have had more than my fair share in the years since I made this account. Why do you have to be so bitingly sarcastic?

Oh, it's happened, but hard facts normally trump everything else.

Yes... but what you just said was not a hard fact. It was opinion. Ideological resolutions are passed all the time, so long as they are decently written.

Let me rephrase what I said. Purely ideological commendations/condemnations, i.e. let's condemn this Communist region because they are Communists, rarely pass and if they do, they are normally repealed. One of the first condemnations of NE, which was later repealed, is one such example.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Yes... but what you just said was not a hard fact. It was opinion. Ideological resolutions are passed all the time, so long as they are decently written.

Let me rephrase what I said. Purely ideological commendations/condemnations, i.e. let's condemn this Communist region because they are Communists, rarely pass and if they do, they are normally repealed. One of the first condemnations of NE, which was later repealed, is one such example.

Ah. I see what you mean. The proposal does include a few examples of raids, but it is still unlikely to pass.

[Dark Commander]

Let me rephrase what I said. Purely ideological commendations/condemnations, i.e. let's condemn this Communist region because they are Communists, rarely pass and if they do, they are normally repealed. One of the first condemnations of NE, which was later repealed, is one such example.

Ah. I see what you mean. The proposal does include a few examples of raids, but it is still unlikely to pass.

No problem, I also don't think it will pass.

To the OP: NE is known for raiding, so you should have a ton of examples of raided regions to work with. You shouldn't make the focus of your resolution the fact that they are fascists, and should be condemned for that.

[Misley]

Nazi Europa's CV is pretty short, actually. Their raids are hardly condemnable.

[The Snazzylands]

Wasn't Red Fleet (or whatever it was called) commended by the WA at one point? They were far left-wing group that was very heavily focused on raiding ideological enemies too and you don't see anyone flipping out over them.
You can't condemn a region just because they have opinions you don't like.

[Consular]

Nope. Let's not give Nazis more attention please.

[Mitoland]

Wasn't Red Fleet (or whatever it was called) commended by the WA at one point? They were far left-wing group that was very heavily focused on raiding ideological enemies too and you don't see anyone flipping out over them.
You can't condemn a region just because they have opinions you don't like.

What I was suggesting was that everyone should be equal.

Plus, when you say 'can't condemn a nation just because they have opinions you don't like', try repealing every single condemnation resolution. Because then, but only then, would that be true.

[Bears Armed]

Wasn't Red Fleet (or whatever it was called) commended by the WA at one point? They were far left-wing group that was very heavily focused on raiding ideological enemies too and you don't see anyone flipping out over them.

You mean apart from the 'Condemnation' proposal that reached a vote, and the 'Repeal' for their Commendation that's being drafted?

[XCan-Amx]

Wasn't Red Fleet (or whatever it was called) commended by the WA at one point? They were far left-wing group that was very heavily focused on raiding ideological enemies too and you don't see anyone flipping out over them.

You mean apart from the 'Condemnation' proposal that reached a vote, and the 'Repeal' for their Commendation that's being drafted?

The "Repeal" thread was locked since it basically turned into an unproductive mess.

[We Are Not the NSA]

You mean apart from the 'Condemnation' proposal that reached a vote, and the 'Repeal' for their Commendation that's being drafted?

The "Repeal" thread was locked since it basically turned into an unproductive mess.

In the SC, unproductive messes and flipping out go hand in hand.

[XCan-Amx]

The "Repeal" thread was locked since it basically turned into an unproductive mess.

In the SC, unproductive messes and flipping out go hand in hand.

Too true...

[XCan-Amx]

You mean apart from the 'Condemnation' proposal that reached a vote, and the 'Repeal' for their Commendation that's being drafted?

The "Repeal" thread was locked since it basically turned into an unproductive mess.

Whoops, never mind. I just saw that Chester made another thread.

[The Fascist Subsidiary]

As a resident I could tell you that NE has a rather strict policy AGAINST:

• Promoting genocide

• Promoting racial hatred and violence

The RMB will not be used as an outlet to rail against Jews.

Copy pasted from https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=436873
Which frankly is more than I saw after looking at other regions on NS

[Arux]

We've got too much leftists in NationStates.

[Of Leben]

Oh the irony. What is the point of this proposal? Do you want to give NE more attention? I hope you all realize that by giving Nazi Europa a condemnation, you are only giving it more attention that it uses to its advantage right? The left should just stick to their circle jerk commendations.

[Tim Stark]

Though I'm not at all a fan of Nazi Europa, they simply don't deserve the effect this Condemnation will give them. They're already reviled by the international community, so it's not like this will affect them any more in that way. I'd imagine they'd in fact use it as a badge of honor, something we would not want them having in the slightest. Furthermore, if this were to get to vote, it would give incredibly un-needed press to a region we'd all rather just fade into irrelevancy.

[Spektronia]

Blasphemy! Nazi Europa has earned their place and deserve to continue their duties of the White Man's Burden! Their values are what should be! They see the world how it actually is!

[Of Leben]

Blasphemy! Nazi Europa has earned their place and deserve to continue their duties of the White Man's Burden! Their values are what should be! They see the world how it actually is!

If your implying we're all Nazis, than your mistaken. As our glorious leader once said, NE is a blanket region for all people of right wing views. Despite what our enemies will tell you, we don't spread any sort of "hateful ideology" around. We raid regions yes, but we never subject them to ideas of National Socialism or Fascism.