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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:58 pm

I. REMINDING World Assembly member states that the Security Council exists to bring peace to the world;

II. RECOGNIZING that Atheist Empire is a founderless region;

III. EMPHASIZING that in February 2015, a large alliance of raiding regions including The Black Riders, The Black Hawks, Ceirien, and The United Imperial Armed Forces raided and overthrew the government;

IV. APPALLED at this senseless violation against international peace;

VI. DISGUSTED at the actions of these raiding nations against a peaceful and neutral region;

VII. DISMAYED at the fact that Kknight has participated in this raid and hundreds of others;

VIII. CONCERNED that Kknight is one of the highest-ranking officials in The Black Riders;

IX. SHOCKED that Kknight recently led an offensive that say 63 regions raided by The Black Riders in only one hour;

X. CONDEMNS Kknight.

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Postby The Other Otter » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:12 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:IV. AWARE that the World Assembly does not condone raiding in any way, shape, or form;

Heh.. funny you should mention it. -chuckles-

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Postby Evil Wolf » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:17 pm

The Other Otter wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:IV. AWARE that the World Assembly does not condone raiding in any way, shape, or form;

Heh.. funny you should mention it. -chuckles-


Indeed, very funny. :P
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Postby Corvus Corax » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:22 pm

The Violent act of Cemetary Sentinels is outrageous, horrible and brutal violation against international peace.

Hereby peaceful Cimmerians are fully supporting this Condemnation. :P
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:31 pm

Corvus Corax wrote:The Violent act of Cemetary Sentinels is outrageous, horrible and brutal violation against international peace.

Hereby peaceful Cimmerians are fully supporting this Condemnation. :P

Thanks! I'll put the first part in.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:32 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:
The Other Otter wrote:Heh.. funny you should mention it. -chuckles-


Indeed, very funny. :P

Is it ironic that

a. you've been commended
b. your region has been condemned
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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:36 pm

We are curious for an explanation as to why Cemetery Sentinels is not mentioned in conjunction with the raiding of the aforementioned region despite the fact that is it being condemned for the raid. What did Cemetery Sentinels have to do with the raid?

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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:44 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:I. REMINDING World Assembly member states that the Security Council exists to bring world peace to NationStates;

II. RECOGNIZING that Atheist Empire is a founderless region;

III. EMPHASIZING that in February 2015, a large alliance of four raiding regions including The Black Riders, The Black Hawks, Ceirien, and The United Imperial Armed Forces attacked and overthrew the government;

IV. APPALLED at this senseless violation against international peace;

V. AWARE that the World Assembly does not condone raiding in any way, shape, or form;

VI. DISGUSTED at the actions of these raiding nations against a peaceful government;

VII. FURTHER AWARE that The Black Riders has raided thousands of innocent regions before Atheist Empire, actions that have drawn condemnations by the Security Council to The Black Riders itself, as well as many of its members;

VIII. CONDEMNS Cemetery Sentinels





Read and review please! I will give co-authorship if anybody has an exceptionally good idea.


I. REMINDING World Assembly member states that the Security Council exists to bring world peace to NationStates;

No, it doesn't. It exists to be a place for grudge-festing and badge awardment. Occasionally to drop liberations.

V. AWARE that the World Assembly does not condone raiding in any way, shape, or form;

Wrong on several counts, and also nonsense feel-good langage anyway
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Postby Evil Wolf » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:54 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:Is it ironic that

a. you've been commended
b. your region has been condemned


Yeah, the Security Council is full of contradictions like that.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:55 pm

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:We are curious for an explanation as to why Cemetery Sentinels is not mentioned in conjunction with the raiding of the aforementioned region despite the fact that is it being condemned for the raid. What did Cemetery Sentinels have to do with the raid?

He is the delegate of Atheist Empire that came to power in the raid
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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:56 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Nation of Ceneria wrote:We are curious for an explanation as to why Cemetery Sentinels is not mentioned in conjunction with the raiding of the aforementioned region despite the fact that is it being condemned for the raid. What did Cemetery Sentinels have to do with the raid?

He is the delegate of Atheist Empire that came to power in the raid

Well then, mention that for God's sake!

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:01 pm

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:He is the delegate of Atheist Empire that came to power in the raid

Well then, mention that for God's sake!

I put that in Clause V. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
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Postby Ramaeus » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:38 pm

One raid? Really?

Against.
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Postby Redsward » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:46 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Corvus Corax wrote:The Violent act of Cemetary Sentinels is outrageous, horrible and brutal violation against international peace.

Hereby peaceful Cimmerians are fully supporting this Condemnation. :P

Thanks! I'll put the first part in.

They just want publicity. They aren't peaceful, Corax is a raider. Don't give them any more badges.
Ramaeus wrote:One raid? Really?

Against.

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Postby The Other Otter » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:59 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Corvus Corax wrote:The Violent act of Cemetary Sentinels is outrageous, horrible and brutal violation against international peace.

Hereby peaceful Cimmerians are fully supporting this Condemnation. :P

Thanks! I'll put the first part in.

:blink:

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:12 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Corvus Corax wrote:The Violent act of Cemetary Sentinels is outrageous, horrible and brutal violation against international peace.

Hereby peaceful Cimmerians are fully supporting this Condemnation. :P

Thanks! I'll put the first part in.

I saw this and almost fell over laughing.

Anyways...
Kaboomlandia wrote:I. REMINDING World Assembly member states that the Security Council exists to bring world peace to NationStates;

Actually it exists because what it does is incompatible with what the GA does.
II. RECOGNIZING that Atheist Empire is a founderless region;
III. EMPHASIZING that in February 2015, a large alliance of four raiding regions including The Black Riders, The Black Hawks, Ceirien, and The United Imperial Armed Forces attacked and overthrew the government;

I feel like "attacked" is a bit too strong of a word, but...
IV. APPALLED at this senseless violation against international peace;

He was democratically elected using the endorsement system. Are you saying that democracy is a violation against international peace?
V. AWARE that condemnations are often considered badges of honour by raiders

True, but not really relevant to the rest of the proposal.
VI. DISGUSTED at the actions of these raiding nations against a peaceful government;

From what I understand, the exdelegate is not very active, so what government?
VII. FURTHER AWARE that The Black Riders has raided thousands of innocent regions before Atheist Empire, actions that have drawn condemnations by the Security Council to The Black Riders itself, as well as many of its members;

Irrelevant. You are condemning CS, not TBR. It doesn't matter how many regions TBR raid, it matters how many regions the nation has raided and this nation has raided a record breaking 1 region.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:36 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Thanks! I'll put the first part in.

I saw this and almost fell over laughing.

Anyways...
Kaboomlandia wrote:I. REMINDING World Assembly member states that the Security Council exists to bring world peace to NationStates;

Actually it exists because what it does is incompatible with what the GA does.
II. RECOGNIZING that Atheist Empire is a founderless region;
III. EMPHASIZING that in February 2015, a large alliance of four raiding regions including The Black Riders, The Black Hawks, Ceirien, and The United Imperial Armed Forces attacked and overthrew the government;

I feel like "attacked" is a bit too strong of a word, but...
IV. APPALLED at this senseless violation against international peace;

He was democratically elected using the endorsement system. Are you saying that democracy is a violation against international peace?
V. AWARE that condemnations are often considered badges of honour by raiders

True, but not really relevant to the rest of the proposal.
VI. DISGUSTED at the actions of these raiding nations against a peaceful government;

From what I understand, the exdelegate is not very active, so what government?
VII. FURTHER AWARE that The Black Riders has raided thousands of innocent regions before Atheist Empire, actions that have drawn condemnations by the Security Council to The Black Riders itself, as well as many of its members;

Irrelevant. You are condemning CS, not TBR. It doesn't matter how many regions TBR raid, it matters how many regions the nation has raided and this nation has raided a record breaking 1 region.


Okay. First off, Clause III. This is actually a good suggestion. Do you think "raided" would be a better word?
Clause IV. So, by this, you are saying that every Black Rider raid ever was committed democratically. If this is your definition of democracy, just...no.

Clause V. This is to put off people voting just to get CS a condemnation. I don't want to do that.

Clause VI. I will change "government" to "region".

Clause VII. Although it's one region, it's a region that had a whole lot of nations before the raid, and was raided by four different regions in a alliance.


P.S. I know that you are the one trying to commend TBR, and you are a Black Rider.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:02 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:P.S. I know that you are the one trying to commend TBR, and you are a Black Rider.


Well, yes. The flag, signature, and region make that all fairly obvious. I don't think there was an attempt being made to hide membership.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:01 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:I saw this and almost fell over laughing.

Anyways...
Actually it exists because what it does is incompatible with what the GA does.

I feel like "attacked" is a bit too strong of a word, but...

He was democratically elected using the endorsement system. Are you saying that democracy is a violation against international peace?

True, but not really relevant to the rest of the proposal.

From what I understand, the exdelegate is not very active, so what government?

Irrelevant. You are condemning CS, not TBR. It doesn't matter how many regions TBR raid, it matters how many regions the nation has raided and this nation has raided a record breaking 1 region.


Okay. First off, Clause III. This is actually a good suggestion. Do you think "raided" would be a better word?
Clause IV. So, by this, you are saying that every Black Rider raid ever was committed democratically. If this is your definition of democracy, just...no.

Clause V. This is to put off people voting just to get CS a condemnation. I don't want to do that.

Clause VI. I will change "government" to "region".

Clause VII. Although it's one region, it's a region that had a whole lot of nations before the raid, and was raided by four different regions in a alliance.


P.S. I know that you are the one trying to commend TBR, and you are a Black Rider.
I didn't participate when I wrote the commendation. Also, I knew there was a 0% chance it would succeed. The fact that I wrote a commendation for my own region was not even close to the most disputed part of my commendation. The point of the proposal was not for it to succeed, but to prove a point. I wrote a well written proposal that incorporated a different point of view regarding raiding and a series of facts that are undeniable, with the sole intention of getting it to vote. I knew that the number of votes against would be huge, so I never even pretended that it was going to pass. Yet it never even made it to vote. I've seen terribly written raider condemnations do better. The point of my proposal was to prove that the SC is so biased that anything positive about raiders will be completely ignored.

Also, I think I need to stress this, because you keep bringing it up: Commending your home region is not illegal.
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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:24 am

If you want to comdemn a raider, condemn the player who controlled Cemetary Sentinils - as it is, you're condemning a warship, not its captain.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:21 am

KaelThas Quilor wrote:If you want to comdemn a raider, condemn the player who controlled Cemetary Sentinils - as it is, you're condemning a warship, not its captain.

Referring to nations as the players behind them is illegal.
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Postby Normlpeople » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:23 am

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:24 am

Okay. Before going any farther, is there anything in the proposal that will get it deleted by the moderators?
I'm on my last chance before being booted from the WA, so this is important.
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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:43 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:
KaelThas Quilor wrote:If you want to comdemn a raider, condemn the player who controlled Cemetary Sentinils - as it is, you're condemning a warship, not its captain.

Referring to nations as the players behind them is illegal.

True. But were I to engage in a high-profile raid such as this, with a puppet named...say... 'Battery-Operated Toys Mark 4' (*madeupdrandomanme*) you'd get a lot more traction condemning this nation (my main) or even my old main (that I don't control anymore) Cerian Quilor.

Many proposals refer to the fact that the nation in question has controlled other nations in its conduct - including several raider condemns. Jakker the nation hasn't been used in that many raids (I'm pretty sure), but Jakker the nation got condemned because that was the main of the player.
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Postby The Other Otter » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:45 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:Okay. Before going any farther, is there anything in the proposal that will get it deleted by the moderators?
I'm on my last chance before being booted from the WA, so this is important.

Best of luck to you in regards to propelling this proposal to quorum. :)

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