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I am writing this in secrecy, for I do not wish to be discovered until this is over...

Condemn Albul

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Albul | Proposed by: The Galactic Rebels

• ACKNOWLEDGING that Albul has operated with several vassal nations to gain influence throughout several regions, most notably in Slavia and Das Kommune.
  
  
• APPALLED the underhanded methods that Albul has undertaken to destroy the communities and regions which it has contacted, most notably the quest to exterminate several races to further the Albuli agenda. Often Albul or Albuli vassal states are a threat to regional stability as well as a threat to international peace.
  
  
• SHOCKED to see the blatant disregard for rules as Albul's armed forces use chemical and nuclear weapons for offensive tactics, a use contrary to what is expressed in World Assembly Resolution #272, as well as the policies favoring torture in the Albuli intelligence agencies, which goes contrary to World Assembly Resolution #9.
  
  
• HORRIFIED at Albul's several attempts at genocide through biological, chemical, and nuclear warfare, as well as Albul's use of military force to suppress anti-government protests, which both demonstrate blatant disregard for human rights.
  
  
• DISMAYED at the policies that Albul has enacted as an influential nation in several regions, to include the indiscriminate suppression of speech, the arbitrary ejection of nations, and
  the random declaration of war upon innocent regions.
  
  
• RECOGNIZING that Albul's erratic and belligerent behavior is a threat to peace and stability in the NationStates community.

The Security Council hereby CONDEMNS Albul.

Help me out, please?

In secrecy in the SC forum? Are you Albul?

Zaolat wrote:In secrecy in the SC forum? Are you Albul?

That was my first thought as well.

This resolution seems to have an odd mix of RP and GP content.

The Galactic Rebels wrote:I am writing this in secrecy, for I do not wish to be discovered until this is over...

Condemn Albul

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Albul | Proposed by: The Galactic Rebels

• ACKNOWLEDGING that Albul has operated with several vassal nations to gain influence throughout several regions, most notably in Slavia and Das Kommune.
  
  
• APPALLED the underhanded methods that Albul has undertaken to destroy the communities and regions which it has contacted, most notably the quest to exterminate several races to further the Albuli agenda. Often Albul or Albuli vassal states are a threat to regional stability as well as a threat to international peace.
  
  
• SHOCKED to see the blatant disregard for rules as Albul's armed forces use chemical and nuclear weapons for offensive tactics, a use contrary to what is expressed in World Assembly Resolution #272, as well as the policies favoring torture in the Albuli intelligence agencies, which goes contrary to World Assembly Resolution #9.
  
  
• HORRIFIED at Albul's several attempts at genocide through biological, chemical, and nuclear warfare, as well as Albul's use of military force to suppress anti-government protests, which both demonstrate blatant disregard for human rights.
  
  
• DISMAYED at the policies that Albul has enacted as an influential nation in several regions, to include the indiscriminate suppression of speech, the arbitrary ejection of nations, and
  the random declaration of war upon innocent regions.
  
  
• RECOGNIZING that Albul's erratic and belligerent behavior is a threat to peace and stability in the NationStates community.

The Security Council hereby CONDEMNS Albul.

Help me out, please?

I already had to deal with so much crap. Now, I suspect that you are one of two or three people. Just tell us who you are.

Using a puppet to self-commend/self-condemn is allowed, and so is posting in that thread with your main. But when you start arguing with yourself - that's when we call you out.

Sedgistan wrote:Using a puppet to self-commend/self-condemn is allowed, and so is posting in that thread with your main. But when you start arguing with yourself - that's when we call you out.

Well, I guess that pretty much confirms it. 10 points to Zao.

Could I have made it any more obvious? I used some stuff enemies complain about and went a bit more "personal" (?) in case the gp stuff does not cut it.

The resolution doesn't look bad, but here's the thing:

First, doing one of your self smacks of dishonesty and many of the game players that frequent this forum or are the big voting blocs condemn such a thing and will try to stop any self resolution from succeeding.

Second, its better to have another person write it that's not strongly affiliated with yourself. If that person was widely recognized, the better the odds of passing.

While personally I wouldn't condone it, you were better off asking someone to post that for you and letting them take the credit for authoring. As sneaky as that is you'd have a lot better odds then you do now that you've been outed.

P.S. don't argue or post against yourself with puppets. As Sedge said you can get outed that way.

Zaolat wrote:The resolution doesn't look bad, but here's the thing:

First, doing one of your self smacks of dishonesty and many of the game players that frequent this forum or are the big voting blocs condemn such a thing and will try to stop any self resolution from succeeding.

Second, its better to have another person write it that's not strongly affiliated with yourself. If that person was widely recognized, the better the odds of passing.

While personally I wouldn't condone it, you were better off asking someone to post that for you and letting them take the credit for authoring. As sneaky as that is you'd have a lot better odds then you do now that you've been outed.

P.S. don't argue or post against yourself with puppets. As Sedge said you can get outed that way.

Thank. You. Zao. I don't want another Swarmlandia incident...

Redsward wrote:

Zaolat wrote:The resolution doesn't look bad, but here's the thing:

First, doing one of your self smacks of dishonesty and many of the game players that frequent this forum or are the big voting blocs condemn such a thing and will try to stop any self resolution from succeeding.

Second, its better to have another person write it that's not strongly affiliated with yourself. If that person was widely recognized, the better the odds of passing.

While personally I wouldn't condone it, you were better off asking someone to post that for you and letting them take the credit for authoring. As sneaky as that is you'd have a lot better odds then you do now that you've been outed.

P.S. don't argue or post against yourself with puppets. As Sedge said you can get outed that way.

Thank. You. Zao. I don't want another Swarmlandia incident...

Swarm's been a pain to NS for a long time back in the day, not just the SC

The SC does not look favourably upon self-condemnations. If you want, I can submit it for you. The resolution isn't badly written anyway. The only problem is the self-condemnation issue.

I do not frequent these forums enough to know much about whom to trust with such material. Are there any suggestions?

Albul wrote:I do not frequent these forums enough to know much about whom to trust with such material. Are there any suggestions?

You can trust me. I will not try to get a repeal submitted, and I hope now that the player behind Albul has revealed his intentions, that none of the nations here try to do the same.

Kaboomlandia wrote:The SC does not look favourably upon self-condemnations. If you want, I can submit it for you. The resolution isn't badly written anyway. The only problem is the self-condemnation issue.

I honestly don't think this is a good idea...

I swear, when this makes it to vote, I WILL have a repeal locked and loaded.

Redsward wrote:

Kaboomlandia wrote:The SC does not look favourably upon self-condemnations. If you want, I can submit it for you. The resolution isn't badly written anyway. The only problem is the self-condemnation issue.

I honestly don't think this is a good idea...

I swear, when this makes it to vote, I WILL have a repeal locked and loaded.

I suppose this is more of a response to my enemies in several regions, most notably among the NS Leftist regions. Hey, Condemn "North Korea" got passed and they barely did anything (other than their actions undertaken via the Red Fleet), so I suppose that constantly raiding RP regions and supposedly causing regional instability in a number of regions would make me more worthy than they. Those are the main points my enemies are making and I was hoping to beat them to it.

Albul wrote:

Redsward wrote:I honestly don't think this is a good idea...

I swear, when this makes it to vote, I WILL have a repeal locked and loaded.

I suppose this is more of a response to my enemies in several regions, most notably among the NS Leftist regions. Hey, Condemn "North Korea" got passed and they barely did anything (other than their actions undertaken via the Red Fleet), so I suppose that constantly raiding RP regions and supposedly causing regional instability in a number of regions would make me more worthy than they. Those are the main points my enemies are making and I was hoping to beat them to it.

I suppose you can mention the condemnation of North Korea for their actions in your resolution...

Albul wrote:

Redsward wrote:I honestly don't think this is a good idea...

I swear, when this makes it to vote, I WILL have a repeal locked and loaded.

I suppose this is more of a response to my enemies in several regions, most notably among the NS Leftist regions. Hey, Condemn "North Korea" got passed and they barely did anything (other than their actions undertaken via the Red Fleet), so I suppose that constantly raiding RP regions and supposedly causing regional instability in a number of regions would make me more worthy than they. Those are the main points my enemies are making and I was hoping to beat them to it.

I suspect it's more of a stand against people trying to get themselves badges actually.

Kaboomlandia wrote:I suppose you can mention the condemnation of North Korea for their actions in your resolution...

I repealed that, so probably not a good idea.

Ramaeus wrote:

Kaboomlandia wrote:I suppose you can mention the condemnation of North Korea for their actions in your resolution...

I repealed that, so probably not a good idea.

Then, in the off-chance that you support North Korea, you might want to help condemn me? They don't think of me too kindly there.

Consular wrote:

Albul wrote:I suppose this is more of a response to my enemies in several regions, most notably among the NS Leftist regions. Hey, Condemn "North Korea" got passed and they barely did anything (other than their actions undertaken via the Red Fleet), so I suppose that constantly raiding RP regions and supposedly causing regional instability in a number of regions would make me more worthy than they. Those are the main points my enemies are making and I was hoping to beat them to it.

I suspect it's more of a stand against people trying to get themselves badges actually.

I figured as such.

Albul wrote:Then, in the off-chance that you support North Korea, you might want to help condemn me? They don't think of me too kindly there.

Nice try.

Can't condemn an EX-NATION. Oh well.
Who knew this self-condemnation ruse would become even more pointless?