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[NEW Draft!] Commend The Black Riders

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[NEW Draft!] Commend The Black Riders

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:05 am
by We Are Not the NSA
The World Assembly,

Noting that The Black Riders have already received a Security Council Condemnation, and accepting its effects,

Arguing that the actions of a region are not black and white, and that a region be worthy of condemnation and commendation at the same time,

Recognizing The Black Riders as one of the most well known military institutions in the history of the world,

Noting The Black Riders’s policy of unbiased participation, allowing nations of almost any ideology or religion to participate in regional affairs, as long as they are respectful to others,

Lauding The Black Riders’s endorsement of democracy when electing World Assembly Delegates,

Applauding The Black Riders’s participation in the liberation of Nazi Europe from Fascist forces,

Observing their efforts to refound founderless regions, such as DEN, Islamic Revolution of Iran, Angola, Internet, Charon, Whitereach, K and J Alliance, The Silver Isles, Region of Reunited Muslim States, Ixnay, and many others,

Attesting to The Black Riders’s contribution to other large founderless regions by bringing them into international relevance through occupations that do not end in refoundings, for instance in the regions SPACE, Anarchy, The Mountains to the East, and Atheist Empire,

Acknowledging the large amount of time and effort that must be put into tagging, occupations, and refounds,

Impressed by the fact that, despite constant insults and malicious comments, The Black Riders has a strict policy of not seeking revenge, and that the residents of The Black Riders always provide polite, if blunt, responses,

Asserting that The Black Riders unite nations and regions of all kinds through the actions that they take,

Citing the clear increase in activity in regions that have been tagged by The Black Riders, and the many friendships formed through discussion of them,

Interjecting that Defender regions have been commended for their organization and success, despite that fact that The Black Riders has just as much, if not more, organization and success than them,

Realizing that this very council has commended self proclaimed “Defenders” for actions that would not have been possible without the existence of The Black Riders,

Stressing the fact that a large of number of resolutions passed by this Security Council, which acts as a symbol of international peace and diplomacy, would not exist without the extensive efforts of The Black Riders,

Accepting that The Black Riders have instilled a greater interest in regional defense, regional politics and international diplomacy throughout the world,

Noting that The Black Riders have been liberated by the forces that they previously combated throughout their imperial era,

Praising the New TBR government for their further endorsement of democracy, and its work to form a strong and fair government,

Praising the New Black Riders for their aid in the liberation of Paradoxia,

Knowing that the legend of The Black Riders will be remembered for the rest of time,

Hereby Commends The Black Riders.




The World Assembly,

Hoping to preserve a record of what The Black Riders have accomplished throughout its history,

Noting that The Black Riders have received a Security Council Condemnation, and accepting its effects,

Arguing that the actions of a region are not black and white, and that a region can make actions worthy of condemnation and commendation at the same time,

Recognizing The Black Riders as one of the most well known military institutions in the world,

Noting The Black Riders’s policy of unbiased participation, allowing nations of almost any ideology or religion to participate in regional affairs, as long as they are respectful to others,

Lauding The Black Riders’s endorsement of democracy when electing World Assembly Delegates,

Applauding The Black Riders’s participation in the liberation of Nazi Europe from Fascist forces,

Observing their efforts to refound founderless regions, such as DEN, Islamic Revolution of Iran, Angola, Internet, Charon, Whitereach, K and J Alliance, The Silver Isles, Region of Reunited Muslim States, Ixnay, and many others,

Attesting to The Black Riders’s contribution to other large founderless regions by bringing them into international relevance through occupations that do not end in refoundings, for instance in the regions SPACE, Anarchy and The Mountains to the East,

Acknowledging the large amount of time and effort that must be put into tagging, occupations, and refounds,

Appalled that The Black Riders’s region is constantly bombarded by insults and slander,

Impressed by the fact that, despite the previously mentioned insults, The Black Riders has instituted a strict policy of not seeking revenge, and that the residents of The Black Riders always provide polite, if blunt, responses,

Asserting that The Black Riders unite nations and regions of all kinds through the actions that they take,

Citing the clear increase in activity in regions that have been tagged by The Black Riders, and the many friendships formed through discussion of them,

Interjecting that Defender regions have been commended for their organization and success, despite that fact that The Black Riders has just as much, if not more, organization and success than them,

Realizing that this very council has commended self proclaimed “Defenders” for actions that would not have been possible without the existence of The Black Riders,

Stressing the fact that a large of number of resolutions passed by this Security Council, which acts as a symbol of international peace and diplomacy, would not exist without the extensive efforts of The Black Riders,

Pointing out that many Defender regions have been commended for their actions, yet they have failed to stop, or even significantly slow down The Black Riders, showing this council’s corrupt bias against institutions like The Black Riders,

Accepting that The Black Riders have instilled a greater interest in regional defense, regional politics and international diplomacy throughout the world,

Hereby Commends The Black Riders.

The World Assembly,

Noting that The Black Riders have already received a Security Council Condemnation, and accepting its effects,

Arguing that the actions of a region are not black and white, and that a region can make actions worthy of condemnation and commendation at the same time,

Recognizing The Black Riders as one of the most well known military institutions in the world,

Lauding The Black Riders’s endorsement of democracy when electing World Assembly Delegates,

Applauding The Black Riders’s participation in the liberation of Nazi Europe from Fascist forces,

Observing their efforts to refound founderless regions, such as DEN, Islamic Revolution of Iran, Angola, Internet, Charon, Whitereach, K and J Alliance, The Silver Isles, Region of Reunited Muslim States, Ixnay, and many others,

Attesting to The Black Riders’s contribution to other large founderless regions by bringing them into international relevance through occupations that do not end in refoundings, for instance in the regions SPACE, Anarchy and The Mountains to the East,

Praising the attempts by The Black Riders to bring small, founderless, and inactive regions back into international importance, through the recognition that has been dubbed “tagging”,

Acknowledging the large amount of time and effort that must be put into tagging, occupations, and refounds,

Appalled that The Black Riders’s region is constantly bombarded by insults and slander,

Impressed by the fact that, despite the previously mentioned insults, The Black Riders has instituted a strict policy of not seeking revenge, and that the residents of The Black Riders always provide polite, if blunt, responses,

Asserting that The Black Riders unite nations and regions of all kinds through the actions that they take,

Citing the clear increase in activity in regions that have been tagged by The Black Riders, and the many friendships formed through discussion of them,

Interjecting that Defender regions have been commended for their organization and success, despite that fact that The Black Riders has just as much, if not more, organization and success than them,

Realizing that this very council has commended self proclaimed “Defenders” for actions that would not have been possible without the existence of The Black Riders,

Stressing the fact that a large of number of resolutions passed by this Security Council, which acts as a symbol of international peace and diplomacy, would not exist without the extensive efforts of The Black Riders,

Pointing out that while many Defender regions have been commended for their actions, they have failed to stop, or even significantly slow down The Black Riders, showing a corrupt bias against institutions like The Black Riders,

Accepting that The Black Riders have instilled a greater interest in regional defense, regional politics and international diplomacy throughout the world,

Hereby Commends The Black Riders.

The World Assembly,

Noting that The Black Riders have already received a Security Council Condemnation, and accepting its effects,

Arguing that the actions of a region are not black and white, and that a region’s actions can be worthy of being condemned and commended,

Recognizing The Black Riders as one of the most well known raiding institutions in the world,

Lauding The Black Riders’s endorsement of democracy when electing World Assembly Delegates,

Observing their efforts to refound founderless regions, such as DEN, Islamic Revolution of Iran, Angola, Internet, Charon, Whitereach, K and J Alliance, The Silver Isles, Region of Reunited Muslim States, Ixnay, and many others,

Attesting to The Black Riders’s contribution to other large founderless regions by bringing them into international relevance through occupations that do not end in refoundings, for instance in the regions SPACE and Anarchy,

Praising the attempts by The Black Riders to bring small, founderless, and inactive regions back into international importance, through the recognition that has been dubbed “tagging”,

Acknowledging the large amount of time and effort that must be put into tagging, occupations, and refounds,

Appalled that The Black Riders’s region is constantly bombarded by insults and slander,

Impressed by the fact that, despite the previously mentioned insults, The Black Riders has instituted a strict policy of not seeking revenge, and that the residents of The Black Riders always provide polite, if blunt, responses,

Asserting that The Black Riders unite nations and regions of all kinds through the actions that they take,

Citing the clear increase in activity in regions that have been tagged by The Black Riders, and the many friendships formed through discussion of them,

Interjecting that Defender regions have been commended for their organization and success, despite that fact that The Black Riders has just as much, if not more, organization and success than them,

Realizing that this very council has commended self proclaimed “Defenders” for actions that would not have been possible without the existence of The Black Riders,

Stressing the fact that a large of number of resolutions passed by this Security Council, which acts as a symbol of international peace and diplomacy, would not exist without the extensive efforts of The Black Riders,

Pointing out that while many Defender regions have been commended for their actions, they have failed to stop, or even significantly slow down The Black Riders, showing a corrupt bias against institutions like The Black Riders,

Accepting that The Black Riders have instilled a greater interest in regional defense, regional politics and international diplomacy throughout the world,

Hereby Commends The Black Riders.


The World Assembly,

Noting that The Black Riders have already received a Security Council Condemnation, and accepting its effects,

Arguing that the actions of a region are not black and white, and that a region’s actions can be worthy of being condemned and commended,

Recognizing The Black Riders as one of the most well known raiding institutions in the world,

Lauding The Black Riders’s endorsement of democracy when electing World Assembly Delegates,

Observing their efforts to refound founderless regions, such as DEN, Islamic Revolution of Iran, Angola, Internet, Charon, Whitereach, K and J Alliance, The Silver Isles, Region of Reunited Muslim States, Ixnay, and many others,

Attesting to The Black Riders’s contribution to other large founderless regions by bringing them into international relevance through occupations that do not end in refoundings, for instance in the regions SPACE and Anarchy,

Praising the attempts by The Black Riders to bring small, founderless, and inactive regions back into international importance, through the recognition that has been dubbed “tag raiding”,

Acknowledging the large amount of time and effort that must be put into tag raids, occupations, and refounds,

Appalled that The Black Riders’s region is constantly bombarded by insults and slander,

Impressed by the fact that, despite the previously mentioned insults, The Black Riders has instituted a strict policy of not seeking revenge, and that the residents of The Black Riders always provide polite, if blunt, responses,

Asserting that The Black Riders have become a common enemy, who unites nations and regions of all kinds,

Interjecting that Defender regions have been commended for their organization and success, despite that fact that The Black Riders has just as much, if not more, organization and success than them,

Realizing that this very council has commended self proclaimed “defenders” for actions that would not have been possible without the existence of The Black Riders,

Stressing the fact that a large of number of resolutions passed by this Security Council, which acts as a symbol of international peace and diplomacy, would not exist without the extensive efforts of The Black Riders,

Accepting that The Black Riders have instilled a greater interest in regional defense, and international diplomacy throughout the world,

Hereby Commends The Black Riders.

The World Assembly,

Noting that The Black Riders have already received a Security Council Condemnation,

Arguing that the actions of a region are not black and white, and that a region’s actions can be worthy of being condemned and commended,

Recognizing the Black Riders as one of the most well known raiding institutions in the world,

Lauding the The Black Riders’s endorsement of democracy when electing World Assembly Delegates,

Observing their efforts to refound founderless regions, such as DEN, Islamic Revolution of Iran, Angola, Internet, Charon, Whitereach, K and J Alliance, The Silver Isles, Region of Reunited Muslim States, Ixnay, and many others,

Attesting that The Black Riders contribute to other large founderless regions by bringing them into international relevance through occupations that do not end in refoundings, for instance in the regions SPACE and Anarchy,

Praising the attempts by The Black Riders to bring small, founderless, and inactive regions back into international importance, through the recognition that has been dubbed “tag raiding”,

Acknowledging the large amount of time and effort that must be put into tag raids, occupations, and refounds,

Asserting that The Black Riders have become a common enemy, who unites nations and regions of all kinds,

Realizing that this very council has commended self proclaimed “defenders” for actions that would not have been possible without the existence of The Black Riders,

Stressing the fact that a large of number of resolutions passed by this Security Council, which acts as a symbol of international peace and diplomacy, would not exist without the extensive efforts of The Black Riders,

Accepting that The Black Riders have instilled a greater interest in regional defense, and international diplomacy throughout the world,

Hereby Commends The Black Riders.

The World Assembly,

Noting that The Black Riders have already received a Security Council Condemnation,

Arguing that the actions of a region are not black and white, and that a region’s actions can be worthy of being condemned and commended,

Recognizing the Black Riders as one of the most well known raiding institutions in the world,

Lauding the The Black Riders’s endorsement of democracy when electing World Assembly Delegates,

Observing their efforts to refound founderless regions, such as Ixnay,

Praising the attempts by The Black Riders to bring small, founderless, and inactive regions back into international importance, through the recognition that has been dubbed “tag raiding”,

Acknowledging the large amount of time and effort that must be put into tag raids, occupations, and refounds,

Admiring the widely used off-site forums and chatrooms that The Black Riders maintain,

Asserting that The Black Riders are a common enemy that unites nations and regions of all kinds,

Realizing that this very council has commended self proclaimed “defenders” for actions that would not have been possible without the existence of The Black Riders,

Accepting that The Black Riders have instilled a greater interest in regional defense, and international diplomacy throughout the world,

Hereby Commends The Black Riders.



Back due to popular demand, and the continuation of debate on this after I haven't posted in this thread for over a month: Commend The Black Riders!
If you have any comments on the draft, please make them. I've added a few more clauses, and I plan to change the wording in some places, but I'd like to know what you think needs to be changed.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:19 am
by Rifty
No...Just no...

TBR has more then enough Publicity in the SC. No need for yet another SC proposal...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:19 am
by The Austria-Hungary
hehehe! No

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:20 am
by Planita
Plus COMMENDING means you are PRAISING them

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:22 am
by Faustin Land
Planita wrote:Plus COMMENDING means you are PRAISING them

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:24 am
by Qandaristan
I think you meant "Condemn", not "Commend".

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:28 am
by We Are Not the NSA
Qandaristan wrote:I think you meant "Condemn", not "Commend".
Planita wrote:Plus COMMENDING means you are PRAISING them

Did you guys even read the draft?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:51 am
by Siberian Districts
Rifty wrote:No...Just no...

TBR has more then enough Publicity in the SC. No need for yet another condemnation simply stating "Black rider hurt my founderless region. I'm sad!"


Read the draft. Then comment.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:03 pm
by Bhang Bhang Duc
I think your reference to the off-site forums and chat rooms may be illegal (R4 violation).

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:31 pm
by The Stalker
No, just stop it. TBR don't need more badges, too many of their members have badges already.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:56 pm
by Sierra Lyricalia
Huzzah for this proposal! When we're done we can urge Belgium to commend Germany for reminding the rest of the world that it exists. And then move on to author a Chinese praise of Japan for setting the conditions for its current government to come to power. What a well-reasoned plan this is.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:09 pm
by Redsward
I honestly don't think this will make it close to quorum. Those defenders who blame TBR for literally every raid...

EDIT: Recalled my support.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:10 pm
by New Brussels
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I think your reference to the off-site forums and chat rooms may be illegal (R4 violation).


I believe that that is correct.

Anyways, it won't even reach quorum... don't even bother to try. Every single nation in the countless regions TBR has tagged will be against.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:27 pm
by Talvezout
Well, you can't say he didn't try, but no. Just no.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:48 am
by Sternberg
Well, I admire the poster's enthusiasm starting out ...

But unfortunately, even if the proposal has merit, the simple fact of the matter is that the Black Riders' name has been dragged through the mud (by themselves and by the Security Council) too many times already for many on the WA to see past their actions. And that's even if there's anything laudable to their name, given the destruction - even if only by association - they keep wreaking.

If you're resolved to follow through with this, you're either really going to have to make ONE hell of a case or have a very good lawyer editing your draft, because this is going to be an uphill battle that will very likely be lost. The only practical advice I can give is, while you still have enough characters on hand, find any past cases where, beyond all reasonable doubt, the Black Riders have demonstrated something of good within the international community. These can assist in supporting your draft and can help (one can hope) outweigh any ill they may have done.

I know this hasn't been all that helpful, and for that I am sorry, but at the least, I'd thought I'd let you know of the odds going in.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:49 am
by We Are Not the NSA
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:I think your reference to the off-site forums and chat rooms may be illegal (R4 violation).

Okay. I was reading through passed commendations and there was one that mentioned that the region (I don't remember which) was the first to have an off site forum. It was really old though, so I wasn't sure if it was illegal to mention it now. Thanks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:03 pm
by Talvezout
A bit unrelated, but still; we've got another "Condemn TBR" proposal up. I mean, I know TBR are infamous and what not, but seriously, just stop. It's (sadly) not gonna get any where.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:04 pm
by Dark Rider Lord
Very good proposal NSA, in favor!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:05 pm
by Super-Llamaland
Repeal their condemnation? Maybe, if written well enough.

Commend them? No.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:11 am
by We Are Not the NSA
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Huzzah for this proposal! When we're done we can urge Belgium to commend Germany for reminding the rest of the world that it exists. And then move on to author a Chinese praise of Japan for setting the conditions for its current government to come to power. What a well-reasoned plan this is.

Comparing TBR to Nazi Germany is not a very fair comparison, now is it. TBR never commits genocide, and never randomly kills and rapes the citizens of the regions it raids. The worst possible thing that can be argued that they do is mass displacement. Anyways, real world comparisons should not have any role in NS. Belgium had far fewer options than any region or nation has. If the real world was like NS, then Belgium could have just password protected itself, or simply moved somewhere else, away from Germany.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:28 pm
by We Are Not the NSA
Can anybody tell me if there are any illegalities that I have missed, please.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:51 pm
by Chester Pearson
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Can anybody tell me if there are any illegalities that I have missed, please.


None that I can see, and I would support this....

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:02 pm
by Yevan
I don't know if you touched on this on the last part of the draft but you should probably mention that the Black Riders has played a major part in adding an element of game-play that Nation States wouldn't really have otherwise, that being invading and defending. I've been in a region affected by the Black Riders but I do have to admit taking it back over was kind of fun. Many people look at this and say "what the heck" but if you think about The Black Riders actually deserve some form of commendmant for this.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:34 pm
by Normlpeople
I'd support it too. I'd love to see this get to vote.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:46 pm
by Mundiferrum
If condemns are 'badges of honor' for raiders, I wonder what would happen if they got commended.
I'm going to support this if this ever goes to vote, but not just for the above reason.
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