[Submitted] Repeal Liberate Christmas

[New Brussels]

The Security Council,

RECOGNIZING that Christmas is a large region with a long and rich history;

NOTING that Christmas is the home to a population of distinguished natives;

APPALLED at the instability of the region caused by numerous raider groups;

ACKNOWLEDGING that Security Council resolution #95 allowed native defender forces to retake the region; however;

MAINTAINING that the SC #95 has already served its purpose;

ARGUING that it is a region's right to allow its natives to govern however they see fit;

ASSERTING that the liberation remains an obstacle for the native population to do so.

HEREBY repeals SC #95 Liberate Christmas.

Any assistance is welcome!

[Ynys Prydain]

Most of the "natives" -- there aren't any natives of Christmas, but that's an entirely different discussion -- are opposed to repealing the liberation resolution. Can you explain to us why we the Security Council should repeal it just because you, a non-native in a Sinker, think it should be repealed?

I don't even know why I'm asking, as trust me when I say this will never pass and any words posted in this thread are a waste of time and energy on a doomed proposal. But, I'm bored, so here I am wasting time and energy.

[New Brussels]

My, aren't you a cheery one

Can you enlighten me with your reasoning on how everything here is "a waste of time and energy", Cormac?

[Brunerist Delegate]

If it is supported in my region, I will vote for it.

[Ynys Prydain]

My, aren't you a cheery one

Can you enlighten me with your reasoning on how everything here is "a waste of time and energy", Cormac?

Sorry, I don't mean to discourage you with my pessimism. On a positive note, the proposal is decently written and I hope you'll continue trying your hand at WA proposals.

People have proposed repealing Liberate Christmas before and their proposals have never even been submitted, let alone reached quorum or passed. Repeals of liberation proposals don't pass without native support, and to be honest even if you found some "native" support in Christmas there would be just as many "natives" opposing repeal.

The bottom line is that the liberation resolution does possibly lead to Christmas being raided more often, but it also prevents Christmas from being raided more harmfully. There are no plus sides and plenty of down sides to repealing it, so it isn't going to happen. If I thought it was actually possible I would have tried to repeal it myself, that region and I have a history.

[Chester Pearson]

Maybe you should do some research as to why Christmas was liberated, before you start trying to repeal it....

[New Brussels]

Cormac, I'm not sure what you mean when you say that "there are no plus sides and plenty of down sides to repealing it". I'm aware of the fact that at least some of the native population (at least the active ones) wish to regain control and instill stability to their region. Are the only down sides to a liberation resolution the notion of Christmas being raided more frequently? Wouldn't that problem be resolved after power is consolidated and the region becoming stable once again?

[New Brussels]

Chester, are you implying that TNI, the LKE, and Asgard still maintain it in their interests to raid Christmas once again: to refound and keep it as a colony?

There is a time and place for everything, and the repeal of the Liberation of Christmas is long overdue, so much so that the region cannot function on its own and becomes crushed by waves and waves of raiders.

[Ynys Prydain]

Chester, are you implying that TNI, the LKE, and Asgard still maintain it in their interests to raid Christmas once again: to refound and keep it as a colony?

There is a time and place for everything, and the repeal of the Liberation of Christmas is long overdue, so much so that the region cannot function on its own and becomes crushed by waves and waves of raiders.

Asgard doesn't exist anymore except as a ghost town, but given the interest that the UDL has repeatedly shown in protecting Christmas, I don't think you should rule out TNI and The LKE raiding it, not to mention raider regions like TBR. Who doesn't want to own the region Christmas?

I'm not even sure I wouldn't raid it again.

I'm not sure why you say the region can't function on its own with the liberation resolution in place. The "natives" are doing exactly what they were doing before the 2012 Asgard raid and subsequent password and liberation resolution, which is to say: Absolutely nothing. If anything, the RMB has been far more active since 2012 than it ever was before that and the RMB is the only indicator of activity in that region.

[The Stalker]

I don't think this is a good idea, Christmas has a long history of getting raided and being occupied. Particularly around Christmas time.

It has no delegate or active native population, repealing the liberation resolution would leave it very vulnerable.

Plus, you must realize the region is almost 90% made up of defender and raider puppets. It's like NS own seasonal warzone, and I doubt people will let you change that.

[New Brussels]

But the World Assembly is not biased towards imperialists, nor raider groups, nor communists, nor fascists, nor anyone else.
If there are no further complaints, I will be submitting this and it will be up to the World Assembly to decide whether Christmas deserves to be liberated or not.

Dissenters are welcome to abstain

And don't worry, I'll continue to stay here and try my hand at more proposals soon.

[Robot Santa-]

AGAINST

As a resident of Christmas I am strongly against this proposal, Christmas needs it's liberation in place and you have no right to repeal it. Who are you anyway? You have no authority to speak on behalf of Christmas's interests.

[Chester Pearson]

But the World Assembly is not biased towards imperialists, nor raider groups, nor communists, nor fascists, nor anyone else.
If there are no further complaints, I will be submitting this and it will be up to the World Assembly to decide whether Christmas deserves to be liberated or not.

Dissenters are welcome to abstain

And don't worry, I'll continue to stay here and try my hand at more proposals soon.

So ignoring everything that you were told? Why the fuck did you bother even posting a thread then?

[New Brussels]

So ignoring everything that you were told? Why the fuck did you bother even posting a thread then?

Calm yourself, friend, take a moment and relax for a bit.

It was my intent to seek helpful advice on revising the draft, though I did get quite a bit of feedback...
You were actually one of the most helpful ones:
"Maybe you should do some research as to why Christmas was liberated, before you start trying to repeal it...."

Trust me, I already know all about it... I've been here for quite some time

[Chester Pearson]

So ignoring everything that you were told? Why the fuck did you bother even posting a thread then?

Calm yourself, friend, take a moment and relax for a bit.

It was my intent to seek helpful advice on revising the draft, though I did get quite a bit of feedback...
You were actually one of the most helpful ones:
"Maybe you should do some research as to why Christmas was liberated, before you start trying to repeal it...."

Trust me, I already know all about it... I've been here for quite some time

It wont pass....

[District XIV]

Is the repeal of Christmas' liberation in such a rush and need that you had to ignore everything you were told and submit it on the same day of which you posted it?

Against.

[Bears of the North Pole]

AGAINST

As a resident of Christmas I am strongly against this proposal, Christmas needs it's liberation in place and you have no right to repeal it. Who are you anyway? You have no authority to speak on behalf of Christmas's interests.

That's what I was going to say...

^_^

[Blood Wine]

How about you show us your main,instead of hiding behind a puppet like a coward?

[DWAsnia]

How about you show us your main,instead of hiding behind a puppet like a coward?

Uh, Blood, that puppet is one of Bears Armed. I don't think he's being a coward

[Blood Wine]

How about you show us your main,instead of hiding behind a puppet like a coward?

Uh, Blood, that puppet is one of Bears Armed. I don't think he's being a coward

I was talking about New Brussels? it's pretty obvious Bears of the North Pole is Bears Armed...

[Elke and Elba]

How about you show us your main,instead of hiding behind a puppet like a coward?

I have to second this, the vast understanding of the complexities behind the Christmas issue seems to suggest a puppetry by one of those regions wishing to refound it as their own colony...

[Blood Wine]

How about you show us your main,instead of hiding behind a puppet like a coward?

I have to second this, the vast understanding of the complexities behind the Christmas issue seems to suggest a puppetry by one of those regions wishing to refound it as their own colony...

I wouldnt say to refound....i think rather he is just trying to get a rise out of everyone,AKA trolling

You know,based on the low quality of the actual proposal

[New Brussels]

How about you show us your main,instead of hiding behind a puppet like a coward?

Coward? Who do you think I am?

I wouldnt say to refound....i think rather he is just trying to get a rise out of everyone,AKA trolling

You know,based on the low quality of the actual proposal

Harsh words, my friend.

[Ynys Prydain]

I think I know who the author is, actually, but to avoid looking like an idiot if I'm wrong and to avoid exposing the person if I'm right, I'll just say "bah humbug" and move on.

It doesn't really matter. Whether this is a puppet of a veteran player or a random Sinker resident, this proposal isn't going to pass unless the puppets considered "native" to the festive puppet dump in question support it. Maybe not even then.

[Blood Wine]

How about you show us your main,instead of hiding behind a puppet like a coward?

Coward? Who do you think I am?

I wouldnt say to refound....i think rather he is just trying to get a rise out of everyone,AKA trolling

You know,based on the low quality of the actual proposal

Harsh words, my friend.

The truth can be harsh