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[Draft] Condemn Shadow Afforess

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[Draft] Condemn Shadow Afforess

Postby Maltropia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:11 pm

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Condemn Shadow Afforess

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Shadow Afforess | Proposed by: Maltropia


The Security Council,
Affirming that to liberate a region is to free it from wrongful occupation, and that a region should not be 'liberated' from its rightful resident nations;

Believing any effort to the contrary to be in defiance and contempt of this assembly;

Dismayed by the attempt by the delegate of [nation=short]Shadow Afforess[/nation] to introduce a resolution to liberate the venerable region of Haven, immediately in the wake of a proposal on the same subject which led to violent outbursts throughout the world;

Believing that such a proposal could only have been intended to inflame and disrupt the order of a protected and well-established citizenry within the WA;

Disappointed in Shadow Afforess’ use of the popular national affairs management tool it created, NS++, to further its national interests by urging other nations to vote in a certain fashion on a resolution in callous disregard for the integrity of the World Assembly;

Concerned by allegations that the above-mentioned tool may be employed by the government of Shadow Afforess for use in espionage activities;

Hereby condemns [nation=short+noflag]Shadow Afforess[/nation]


Co-authored by [nation=short]Geanna[/nation], [nation=short]Tiami[/nation] and [nation=short]Ainin[/nation].


Amid the chaos ensuing over Afforess' proposal to Liberate Haven, the Maltropian Delegate valiantly orated as he uttered in stentorian tones the words he had drafted in a safe corner with several other delegates. Most of the chamber was not listening to him, but he persisted, and when he had spoken the last word he stood silent for a few moments. Then he spoke again.

"Honorable delegates, I must apologise to leave you so soon, as I am sure you will have many diverse reactions," He blithely ignored the swarms of zombies engulfing his aide as he continued, "but it has been a long day of Cellars and Snakes and CountryRealms and I require rest. I must take my leave, and as such I yield the floor to the esteemed delegates who are my co-authors. They will field any questions you may have about the proposal, and on the morrow we may well redraft. Thank you for your attention," he concluded to an inattentive audience, before walking with measured paces back to the rubble that was formerly his bench. He extracted his briefcase and departed through doors falling off their hinges.


[OOC: Can we just admire the symmetry in the headers of the resolution for a moment? Okay, thank you and good night.]
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Postby Ainin » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:12 pm

Support, obviously.
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Postby Ramaeus » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:14 pm

Lacking in content. Against.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:17 pm

"Huzzah", Exclaimed the delegate, "Justice can be served."
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Postby Lamoni » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:18 pm

Concerned that Shadow Afforess would see this as a badge of honor. AGAINST.
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Postby New Mushroom Kingdom » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:20 pm

Ramaeus wrote:Lacking in content. Against.

The NMK's Delegate supports this resolution - the fact that Shadow Afforess killed the previous Delegate really makes sure of it. He also remarks that if you find it lacking, perhaps suggest more content rather than just lounging in your WA seat?
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Postby Geanna » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:21 pm

The Geannese Delegation looked for a moment at the proposal as a small and nimble man stood, ''We support this resolution'' he said, further pulling his chair out and standing on it to properly erect himself among his desk. He looked around for a moment or two before he re-adjusted his glasses and in a graceful voice started to sing, ''Do you hear the people sing...''
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Postby New Hyperia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:23 pm

Against. Shadow Afforess should, if anything, be commended for helping to bring underlying issues with R/D (such as Raider advantage and "opting out") to the surface for discussion. I should point out that his "Liberate Haven" is merely a draft at this point. No attempt has been made to send it through the voting process; and as such, no condemnable action has, as of yet, been taken.

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Postby Ramaeus » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:24 pm

New Mushroom Kingdom wrote:The NMK's Delegate supports this resolution - the fact that Shadow Afforess killed the previous Delegate really makes sure of it. He also remarks that if you find it lacking, perhaps suggest more content rather than just lounging in your WA seat?

The onus is on the authors for additional content. Not me.
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Postby New Mushroom Kingdom » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:25 pm

The NMK's delegate sighed and said 'That have a terrible singing voice. Now sit back down and discuss the draft.' however, after this he whispered 'Singing a song of angry men (and mushrooms)'
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Postby Mousebumples » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:25 pm

The Geoffrey von Kase, Grammarian from the Mousebumplonian delegation, stands and offers this statement on the composition of the text. "This is an interesting proposal, but might I suggest that you use active verbs (Affirms, Believes, Regrets, etc.) versus the -ing verbs you're using? I think this may result in a "greater effect" or impact when other ambassadors evaluate the text at hand." He adjusts his glasses slightly, before looking up from the text to meet the eyes of the rest of the assembled ambassadors. "Of course, I can't really speak to the merits of this text, as that's not really what I do. Grammar and strength of wording - that's more my focus. I'm sure my nation's ambassadors will consider this in due course, should this be submitted, however."
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Postby New Mushroom Kingdom » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:28 pm

Ramaeus wrote:
New Mushroom Kingdom wrote:The NMK's Delegate supports this resolution - the fact that Shadow Afforess killed the previous Delegate really makes sure of it. He also remarks that if you find it lacking, perhaps suggest more content rather than just lounging in your WA seat?

The onus is on the authors for additional content. Not me.

Excuse me, Mr. Delegate, but in my opinion the main purpose of a draft is to improve and work on it, If we depended on the author every single time then we wouldn't get much done.
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:36 pm

Against. Contrary to popular opinion I am not a nation in search of a badge, be it commendation or condemnation.

Further, if you are going to list crimes, at least make it believable. I could write a better draft. :palm:

You didn't mention:

1.) I don't believe regional sovereignty outside of my home region, Capitalist Paradise, exists. The post where I state this and links to it are somewhere on the forums.
2.) I've aided known raider organizations (whom have been condemned by the WA) with intel and technology
3.) Numerous underhanded repeal tactics to undermine the authority of the WA
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Postby Azrkyrtovaken » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:41 pm

Ramaeus wrote:Lacking in content. Against.


We colloquially agree with the opinion forwarded by Ambassador of Ramaeus. Understandably the proposal at debate is still a rough draft thus our current stance would be against the proposal from being further rationally evaluated and considered in terms of merits and relevant avenues of reasoning until the aforementioned issue highlighted by Ambassador of Ramaeus is duly rectified by the authors of this proposal.


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Postby SquareDisc City » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:59 pm

Maltropia wrote:Concerned by allegations that the above-mentioned tool may be employed by the government of Shadow Afforess for use in espionage activities;


OOC: This is a pretty serious accusation. If NS++ is spyware (and I know of no evidence or reason to believe it is), then those involved in it would be committing real-world crimes. That's not something for the SC to be trying to handle.
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Postby Vicious Debaters » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:28 pm

Against; Afforess seeks to stir the shit pot with his recent resolution. Condemning him would bring more attention to his tomfoolery and semi-legitimize it. Afforess isn't some dire raider lord who deserves to be condemned, he's piggybacking on a controversy for the lulz and the best solution is to not raise undue attention to it.

Also, I am concerned with the fact that Afforess hasn't actually accomplished anything with it and condemning him is jumping the gun. Go condemn him when he makes something really bad happen.

Maltropia wrote:[OOC: Can we just admire the symmetry in the headers of the resolution for a moment? Okay, thank you and good night.]


Very nice headers, though.

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Postby Todd McCloud » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:28 pm

SquareDisc City wrote:
Maltropia wrote:Concerned by allegations that the above-mentioned tool may be employed by the government of Shadow Afforess for use in espionage activities;


OOC: This is a pretty serious accusation. If NS++ is spyware (and I know of no evidence or reason to believe it is), then those involved in it would be committing real-world crimes. That's not something for the SC to be trying to handle.

I must echo this statement. This is a very serious allegation. While [violet] has warned about the potential pitfalls to using something outside of NS, Afforess has plainly stated that committing anything malicious with NS++ would affect his employment, and rightfully so.

So, yeah. Unless you have evidence on this, it's a baseless claim that could really harm someone's image IRL.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:50 pm

Shadow Afforess wrote:Against. Contrary to popular opinion I am not a nation in search of a badge, be it commendation or condemnation.

Shadow Afforess wrote:
Siafyes wrote:After his latest stunt, I don't think Afforess will get commended anytime soon. :rofl:

I would never let doing what is right get in the way of honors.

Bullshit.

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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:51 pm

I support this.
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Postby Tano » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:26 pm

Condemning him will do...absolutely nothing except stroke his already enlarged ego.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:56 pm

Shadow Afforess wrote:Against. Contrary to popular opinion I am not a nation in search of a badge, be it commendation or condemnation.

Further, if you are going to list crimes, at least make it believable. I could write a better draft. :palm:

You didn't mention:

1.) I don't believe regional sovereignty outside of my home region, Capitalist Paradise, exists. The post where I state this and links to it are somewhere on the forums.
2.) I've aided known raider organizations (whom have been condemned by the WA) with intel and technology
3.) Numerous underhanded repeal tactics to undermine the authority of the WA

I don't want a badge! I don't want one so much that here is a list of things to not include! :p
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Postby Toronina » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:30 pm

Against, sorry, but he was just stirring shite up, the SC has better things to do, than just condemning nations all willy nilly
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Postby Ballotonia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:53 pm

Maltropia wrote:
Disappointed in Shadow Afforess’ use of the popular national affairs management tool it created, NS++, to further its national interests by urging other nations to vote in a certain fashion on a resolution in callous disregard for the integrity of the World Assembly;

Concerned by allegations that the above-mentioned tool may be employed by the government of Shadow Afforess for use in espionage activities;


I suggest adding a clause referring to the time Afforess (claimed to be an accident) used NS++ to upvote one of his own dispatches: NS++ user nations would quietly upvote the dispatch in the background, without the NS++ user even ever having read that dispatch.

With that in mind, the last clause can also be expanded: "in espionage activities and taking control of other nations;"

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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:56 pm

Maltropia wrote:Disappointed in Shadow Afforess’ use of the popular national affairs management tool it created, NS++, to further its national interests by urging other nations to vote in a certain fashion on a resolution in callous disregard for the integrity of the World Assembly;

How did that instance "further [Afforess's] national interests"? The only corruption to the integrity of the WA came from the moderators who necessitated the campaign in the first place.

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Postby Feazanthia » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:48 am

He wants this. Opposed.
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