[Submitted] Liberate Haven

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You know your sentence to me directly contradicts the implications to the person right below me, right?

You're asserting to me you're not implying you have the right to take their regions by force and at the same time you ARE telling them that it is the raider's right to try if they want to.

Err, what? English there, broseph.

I think I wrote a perfectly legible sentence there.

You're telling me one thing and in the same post you're implying precisely what you told me you're not implying.

[Applebania]

Just one quick thing, everyone:

DON'T PANIC.

This has approximately 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of passing.

[Thoricia]

IMO Prem is only just being objective, albeit in a somewhat snide manner; and that's just her.

She's not, she already admitted she was trolling offsite

[Mallorea and Riva]

I wasn't aware lying in a proposal was a rules violation? Politics is politics, Mall just happens to be very good at it....

(sig it Mall, I know you want to)

If he lies in a proposal, he could lie on mod reports!

Inb4conspirsy
Inb4someonetakesthisseriously

;_;

You're a cruel person

That? Coming from a raider? Comedy gold.

But, I'm serious. I hope it crashes, and burns, and nothing is left but shattered dreams.

Cruel I say. If it gets to vote I suppose I can't count on your support

[Questers]

Never, presumably. Le nationstates est moi etc.

[Freihafen]

If I was, then I'd be joining the proverbial "lynch mob" against a poster who's done nothing wrong.

If I'm reading this correctly, 'said poster' has only done something wrong because what he is doing is a travesty of the spirit and responsibilities of a role which 'said poster' happens to hold in addition to being a GPer.

[Elke and Elba]

Okay, "Repeal Commend The JSA" is up, which would 1) remove Mall's trophy region's trophy and 2) stall Mall's efforts to put forth Liberate Haven.

@Mall, ruthless I am, hyperlinking this in, because I don't give a flying flute about your feelings and shall be equally devious against devious nations, ha.

[The Batorys]

Hi,

What was the purpose of those 33 pages? The proposal was submitted seemingly without edit. Just wanted to bait I guess?

It couldn't possibly be trolling. Oh no. Definitely not. Completely out of the question. The OP was clearly looking for actual input and posting sincerely this whole time. Surely no one could question that. Perhaps the various issues raised simply slipped his mind, and he had intended to take people's points into consideration, but goshdarnit, kinda forgot, and now it's too late. That's obviously what happened.

[Premislyd]

Err, what? English there, broseph.



Woah there. I've never declared my sex/gender so please don't just assume it, k? K.

Correct response was "I'm not your guy, buddy."

And then I'd go "I'm not your buddy, friend,"

And then you'd go "I'm not your friend, guy," and so on and.... never mind

We can try again if you want, buddy.

Still wondering when Mall will resign for his outrageous behavior.

oh, you're serious.

What was his "outrageous behavior" then?

You're telling me one thing and in the same post you're implying precisely what you told me you're not implying.

Still not sure I'm following because I've never implied anything.

[Frisbeeteria]

At the same time, I am sure the whole "we have a right to rape your regions and make your region our bitch" is getting tiring for them.

If people don't stop mis-using the "rape" argument (which is pretty damned offensive to actual rape victims), I'm going to lock this thread and leave it locked.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I am not saying that it was a rules violation, simply that I do not agree with the proposal in any manner whatsoever given the vapidity of the claims made in the proposal.

Thank God, a real debate, and not a lynch mob call for a certain mods head.... We may be back on track here.

Yea, I don't agree with calling Mallorea's head, I think that's over the top.

If anything, the proposal is the thing that matters here, not Mallorea's ethics; it's a game ffs, and you don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

[The Republic of Lanos]

We still never got any evidence proving this argument.

[Chester Pearson]

Still wondering when Mall will resign for his outrageous behavior.

Probably sometime long after you manage to get yet another nation deleted for trolling....

I wasn't aware lying in a proposal was a rules violation? Politics is politics, Mall just happens to be very good at it....

(sig it Mall, I know you want to)

If he lies in a proposal, he could lie on mod reports!

Inb4conspirsy
Inb4someonetakesthisseriously

Seriously? That is what it has come to now?

[The Batorys]

IMO Prem is only just being objective, albeit in a somewhat snide manner; and that's just her.

She's not, she already admitted she was trolling offsite

I wonder if you submitted a report with the chatlog, it would be considered as evidence?

[The Republic of Lanos]

Still wondering when Mall will resign for his outrageous behavior.

Probably sometime long after you manage to get yet another nation deleted for trolling....

IIRC that dude was posting past ban.

[Democratic Koyro]

She's not, she already admitted she was trolling offsite

I wonder if you submitted a report with the chatlog, it would be considered as evidence?

Nope.

[The Serbian Empire]

1: We are not allowed to protest the appointment of Mods?

2: How dare you? We agree that it's annoying. How dare you try and blame us for something that was, by his own admission, Mall's attempt to get our goat? Shameful. Absolutely shameful. If someone knocks over a vase and then someone gets upset that it's broken, you shouldn't get mad at the person who's upset for raising their voice, but at the person who broke this. I'm astonished at what I'm reading.

This, x100. Those who have called for Mall to resign in this thread and have protested his conduct have repeatedly been told to take their concerns to the Moderation forum. When they did, Reppy locked it. Troll-by-mod followed up with censorship-by-mod. Nicely done, NationStates.

If the Moderation team doesn't want criticism of Mall's conduct in this thread, they should stop censoring those who did as they were told and took their complaints to Moderation.

In the meantime: Mallorea and Riva should resign or be removed from the Moderation team for trolling the entire NationStates RP community through the WA while a WA moderator. Whether you want me to say it here or not.

I think there is no solution except to make more RPers into Mods.

[Oaledonia]

But I don't understand:
The operating clause is that regions aren't recruiting? Is that a action worthy of a liberation?
I also don't see any evidence, just a butthurt link to an off handed comment about how "IT'S UNDENIABLE THEY DID IT!!!!", with no other evidence.

Still wondering when Mall will resign for his outrageous behavior.

Probably sometime long after you manage to get yet another nation deleted for trolling....

If he lies in a proposal, he could lie on mod reports!

Inb4conspirsy
Inb4someonetakesthisseriously

Seriously? That is what it has come to now?

I'm really disappointed you didn't actually read the whole post, it speaks marvels for maturity.

[The Batorys]

Correct response was "I'm not your guy, buddy."

And then I'd go "I'm not your buddy, friend,"

And then you'd go "I'm not your friend, guy," and so on and.... never mind

We can try again if you want, buddy..

There we go.

I'm not your buddy, friend.

[Chester Pearson]

I think there is no solution except to make more RPers into Mods.

And that would change what exactly?

But I don't understand:
The operating clause is that regions aren't recruiting? Is that a action worthy of a liberation?
I also don't see any evidence, just a butthurt link to an off handed comment about how "IT'S UNDENIABLE THEY DID IT!!!!", with no other evidence.

Probably sometime long after you manage to get yet another nation deleted for trolling....



Seriously? That is what it has come to now?

I'm really disappointed you didn't actually read the whole post, it speaks marvels for maturity.

What? Your "hashtags" at the bottom? Sorry not a Twitter fan....

[The Batorys]

At the same time, I am sure the whole "we have a right to rape your regions and make your region our bitch" is getting tiring for them.

If people don't stop mis-using the "rape" argument (which is pretty damned offensive to actual rape victims), I'm going to lock this thread and leave it locked.

Look, I never said that the acts were in any way comparable.

Just that some of the rhetoric seemed a lot like the victim-blaming arguments put forth by rape apologists. Similar logic, despite the vast difference in the subject.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

At the same time, I am sure the whole "we have a right to rape your regions and make your region our bitch" is getting tiring for them.

If people don't stop mis-using the "rape" argument (which is pretty damned offensive to actual rape victims), I'm going to lock this thread and leave it locked.

I did not break any rules, so I see no reason for the red text.

[Minnysota]

And that would change what exactly?

It would make more RPers mods. duh

[Lucino]

I think there is no solution except to make more RPers into Mods.

And that would change what exactly?

Make the RP community feel like less of a red-headed stepchild bound to the wills of a minority, for one.

There is no love lost between the moderation team and the RP community, as there hasn't been much since probably the Jolt days. They're viewed with suspicion and typically act in a way that supports that suspicion. Especially with regard to this whole proposal.

[Thoricia]

She's not, she already admitted she was trolling offsite

I wonder if you submitted a report with the chatlog, it would be considered as evidence?

It's offsite so no, just don't engage her anymore and she'll wander off to another bridge