Draft Condemn Unibotian WASC Mission

[Lustrous Lemurs]

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Unibotian WASC Mission (nation)

Proposed by: Lustrous Lemurs

Descripton: The Security Council,

Defining...
(a) "griefing" as an action to force a player or several players to comply to threatening behaviour and language,
(b) "hacking" as an action to acquire or destroy a person's private information or property,
(c) "liberation" as a mean to hack another region's password or remove it entirely,

Deeply Disturbed that Unibotian WASC Mission has targeted the region of Utopia by proposing and
submitting the resolution, "Liberate Utopia", thus removing Utopia'slegally installed password with force,
consquently jeopardizing the Utopia's security,

Surprised that Unibotian WASC Mission chooses to involve the WA and other foreign forces
prior to opening a dialogue with his fellow WA member, Lustrous Lemurs, over the future of Utopia,

Observing that his proposal is based on half truths, lies, prejudices, assumptions and pure
misunderstanding of empirical facts,

Appaled that Unibotian WASC Mission uses his position as a WA nation to mislead other WA nations in
his deliberate attempt to hurt Utopia,

Shocked of the fact that his actions are unprovoked, and increases inter-regional tensions,

Greatly Appaled that UnibotianWASC Mission uses hacking, an especially vile crime, to upset other
players,

Hereby:
1. Condemns Unibotian WASC Mission for griefing the region of Utopia in general and the WA delegate,
the honourable Lustrous Lemurs, in special, unprovoked, attempting to destroy the region of Utopia, by proposing
and submitting a resolution with the aim of stripping the legislate WA delegate for his administrative power, by hacking
the region's password.

2. Condemns Unibotian WASC Mission for deliberately misleading the honourable World Assembly Security Council
and the respectable nations of the NationStates, in order to fuel his nefarious machinations.

[A mean old man]

No.

[Grays Harbor]

no

[Flibbleites]

Really, you're trying to condemn someone simply because they wrote a proposal? I strongly suggest you read this post before you proceed any further with this idea.

[The Republic of Lanos]

*drinks whiskey*
No just no. Give it up.

George McMaster
WA Ambassador to Lanos

[Martyrdoom]

Harassing a nation or region because of what they did or said? Surely no.

[Todd McCloud]

Yeah, no.

[Lustrous Lemurs]

Really, you're trying to condemn someone simply because they wrote a proposal? I strongly suggest you read this post before you proceed any further with this idea.

No, I don't condemn people because they write proposals. I condemn people who wants to hack my region's password!

The draft has been edited. I don't take lean on hacking, whether is my private accounts or passwords for regions in NationStates. That's what "liberations" truly are: theft.

[Ananke]

Lifting a password from a region with the help of a Liberation Resolution has nothing to do with hacking though, so you might want to reword that part.

In NS hacking tends to refer to people who gets access to nations or forum accounts illegally, so it's a pretty harsh accusation to throw at anyone. Especially when it's wrong...

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I can't see how condemnation for a honoured ambassador that has voiced his concerns about a region being held hostage by a authoritarian regime would work, if ever, honoured ambassador. In fact we should be limiting the use of condemnations to the most extreme cases.

Yours etc,

[Topid]

I thought this was going to be something worth reading! A really funny proposal...

How disappointed was I when I read this... Oh well.

[A mean old man]

...and so, I believe the opinion here based on the unfunniness, inaccuracy, and moderator opposition remains a unanimous....

No.

[Lustrous Lemurs]

I can't see how condemnation for a honoured ambassador that has voiced his concerns about a region being held hostage by a authoritarian regime would work, if ever, honoured ambassador. In fact we should be limiting the use of condemnations to the most extreme cases.

Yours etc,

Most honoured ambassador, I think hacking a region's password is indeed extreme. I would be most pleased if the honoured ambassador could exemplify how she defines extreme?

[Todd McCloud]

I can't see how condemnation for a honoured ambassador that has voiced his concerns about a region being held hostage by a authoritarian regime would work, if ever, honoured ambassador. In fact we should be limiting the use of condemnations to the most extreme cases.

Yours etc,

Most honoured ambassador, I think hacking a region's password is indeed extreme. I would be most pleased if the honoured ambassador could exemplify how she defines extreme?

Proof? Pics or it didn't happen.

[Lustrous Lemurs]

Lifting a password from a region with the help of a Liberation Resolution has nothing to do with hacking though, so you might want to reword that part.

In NS hacking tends to refer to people who gets access to nations or forum accounts illegally, so it's a pretty harsh accusation to throw at anyone. Especially when it's wrong...

A password is a password whether it's a computer, an Internet bank account, an email account, a NS nation's account or a NS forum account. In my mind removing a legally installed password for a region without the administrator of that region's consent, is indeed hacking, even though many think it's not. I will upheld my "harsh" view on this matter. "Liberations" is for people who can't admit a defeat.

[Lustrous Lemurs]

I can't see how condemnation for a honoured ambassador that has voiced his concerns about a region being held hostage by a authoritarian regime would work, if ever, honoured ambassador. In fact we should be limiting the use of condemnations to the most extreme cases.

Yours etc,

Most honoured ambassador, I think hacking a region's password is indeed extreme. I would be most pleased if the honoured ambassador could exemplify how she defines extreme?

Proof? Pics or it didn't happen.

Most honoured ambassador, it hasn't happened yet. To remove Utopia's pw without my consent would be so. It's Unibotian WASC Mission who proposes this scandalous resolution, so I think he should be condemned for it. Of course, he can withdraw "Liberate Utopia" and no harm is done.

[Unibot]

Of course, you could remove the password on Utopia. No harm done.

[Ananke]

A password is a password whether it's a computer, an Internet bank account, an email account, a NS nation's account or a NS forum account. In my mind removing a legally installed password for a region without the administrator of that region's consent, is indeed hacking, even though many think it's not. I will upheld my "harsh" view on this matter. "Liberations" is for people who can't admit a defeat.

I'm just telling you how the term "hacking" is generally viewed by the gameplay crowd. It's your proposal, so feel free to submit it. Just expect to get called on that point, if it reach quorum.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I can't see how condemnation for a honoured ambassador that has voiced his concerns about a region being held hostage by a authoritarian regime would work, if ever, honoured ambassador. In fact we should be limiting the use of condemnations to the most extreme cases.

Yours etc,

Most honoured ambassador, I think hacking a region's password is indeed extreme. I would be most pleased if the honoured ambassador could exemplify how she defines extreme?

That would be any invader intent on freely kicking out nations that oppose their beliefs, and those who want to make it a wasteland instead, like Macedon.

[Lustrous Lemurs]

Of course, you could remove the password on Utopia. No harm done.

So you and your ilk can pour in spamming the region? Don't think so.

[Lustrous Lemurs]

I can't see how condemnation for a honoured ambassador that has voiced his concerns about a region being held hostage by a authoritarian regime would work, if ever, honoured ambassador. In fact we should be limiting the use of condemnations to the most extreme cases.

Yours etc,

Most honoured ambassador, I think hacking a region's password is indeed extreme. I would be most pleased if the honoured ambassador could exemplify how she defines extreme?

That would be any invader intent on freely kicking out nations that oppose their beliefs, and those who want to make it a wasteland instead, like Macedon.

That's power struggle, and it's part of this game. It is within a WA delegate legitimate powers to govern the region she/he's a delegate in, according to his/hers inclination. Whether you act like Mother Teresa or Attila the Hun, it's up to you. It's not the WASCs business to interfere in intra-regional power struggle by overriding these powers through hacking the region's password.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I can't see how condemnation for a honoured ambassador that has voiced his concerns about a region being held hostage by a authoritarian regime would work, if ever, honoured ambassador. In fact we should be limiting the use of condemnations to the most extreme cases.

Yours etc,

Most honoured ambassador, I think hacking a region's password is indeed extreme. I would be most pleased if the honoured ambassador could exemplify how she defines extreme?

That would be any invader intent on freely kicking out nations that oppose their beliefs, and those who want to make it a wasteland instead, like Macedon.

That's power struggle, and it's part of this game. It is within a WA delegate legitimate powers to govern the region she/he's a delegate in, according to his/hers inclination. Whether you act like Mother Teresa or Attila the Hun, it's up to you. It's not the WASCs business to interfere in intra-regional power struggle by overriding these powers through hacking the region's password.

Just my opinion there. Macedon happened to be an extremely exceptional case but now I am not too keen on WASC resolutions as I was used to be.

Yours etc,

[Unibot]

I can't see how condemnation for a honoured ambassador that has voiced his concerns about a region being held hostage by a authoritarian regime would work, if ever, honoured ambassador. In fact we should be limiting the use of condemnations to the most extreme cases.

Yours etc,

Most honoured ambassador, I think hacking a region's password is indeed extreme. I would be most pleased if the honoured ambassador could exemplify how she defines extreme?

That would be any invader intent on freely kicking out nations that oppose their beliefs, and those who want to make it a wasteland instead, like Macedon.

That's power struggle, and it's part of this game. It is within a WA delegate legitimate powers to govern the region she/he's a delegate in, according to his/hers inclination. Whether you act like Mother Teresa or Attila the Hun, it's up to you. It's not the WASCs business to interfere in intra-regional power struggle by overriding these powers through hacking the region's password.

So its within the WA delegate's legitimate power, but not the WA? Eh?

[Kalibarr]

yet more proof of why there should be no SC.

[A mean old man]

Of course, you could remove the password on Utopia. No harm done.

So you and your ilk can pour in spamming the region? Don't think so.

Actually, I think there'd be a hell of a lot more spamming of the region if you didn't remove the password and then it was liberated.