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Condemn ''The Chairman of Milograd"

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Should we condemn the nation of ''The Chairman of Milograd"?

Poll ended at Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:04 pm

Yes my nation thinks we should condemn the nation of ''The Chairman of Milograd"
51
55%
No my nation thinks we should not condemn the nation of ''The Chairman of Milograd"
41
45%
 
Total votes : 92

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The Foxfyre Islands
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Founded: Feb 01, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby The Foxfyre Islands » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:01 am

Does he deserve one, prob. Will it do any good, prob not. Save the SC proposal for those situations where the region gets locked by a delegate. Right now South Pacific has the means to replace the delegate if they wish to. No need for SC or the WA as a whole to be involved.

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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:01 pm

I just proposed one. Please support it. I know it won't change much I believe it should still happen.
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Philip Awad: Former Secretary of Rural Development

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The Minnows (Ancient)
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Founded: Apr 21, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Minnows (Ancient) » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:13 pm

Beta Test wrote:I just proposed one. Please support it. I know it won't change much I believe it should still happen.


That draft...

*shakes head sadly*

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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:14 pm

The Minnows wrote:
Beta Test wrote:I just proposed one. Please support it. I know it won't change much I believe it should still happen.


That draft...

*shakes head sadly*



What did I do wrong?
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The Minnows (Ancient)
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Postby The Minnows (Ancient) » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:37 pm

Beta Test wrote:
The Minnows wrote:
That draft...

*shakes head sadly*



What did I do wrong?


Milograd is supported by a large majority of TSP, and is currently defending the region from the predations of fascists and another region. So your premise might need some work.

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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:39 pm

The Minnows wrote:
Beta Test wrote:

What did I do wrong?


Milograd is supported by a large majority of TSP, and is currently defending the region from the predations of fascists and another region. So your premise might need some work.



From what I have seen there a many people opposed to what he is doing. He just banjects those who speak against him to make it appear there is a majority.
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Michael Ferreira: President of the Senate
Philip Awad: Former Secretary of Rural Development

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The Minnows (Ancient)
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Postby The Minnows (Ancient) » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:47 pm

Beta Test wrote:
The Minnows wrote:
Milograd is supported by a large majority of TSP, and is currently defending the region from the predations of fascists and another region. So your premise might need some work.



From what I have seen there a many people opposed to what he is doing. He just banjects those who speak against him to make it appear there is a majority.


Milograd has only ejected enemies of that state that sought to overthrow the democratic government by force, to my knowledge.

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Beta Test
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Founded: Jan 06, 2013
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Postby Beta Test » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:52 pm

The Minnows wrote:
Beta Test wrote:

From what I have seen there a many people opposed to what he is doing. He just banjects those who speak against him to make it appear there is a majority.


Milograd has only ejected enemies of that state that sought to overthrow the democratic government by force, to my knowledge.




Not from what I have seen. Dozens, if not hundreds have been banjected by the looks of it. Could all of those people really been "enemies of the state"?
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Our Peoples Progress
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Founded: Apr 22, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Our Peoples Progress » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:58 pm

Beta Test wrote:
The Minnows wrote:
Milograd has only ejected enemies of that state that sought to overthrow the democratic government by force, to my knowledge.




Not from what I have seen. Dozens, if not hundreds have been banjected by the looks of it. Could all of those people really been "enemies of the state"?

He has only purged known counterrevolutionaries and potential reactionary sleeper agents...

Why you hate freedom?
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HAIL COMRADE MILOGRAD AND THE SOUTH PACIFIC!
WITHOUT MILOGRAD THERE WOULD BE NO SOUTH PACIFIC!
FORWARD THE PEOPLE'S CAUSE!
HAIL THE SOUTH PACIFIC!
DON'T GIVE IN TO HILEVILLE'S FASCIST RHETORIC!
OR THE LIES OF THE OLIGARCHS!
HAIL MILOGRAD!
HAIL THE SOUTH PACIFIC!

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The Minnows (Ancient)
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Founded: Apr 21, 2013
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Postby The Minnows (Ancient) » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:59 pm

Beta Test wrote:
The Minnows wrote:
Milograd has only ejected enemies of that state that sought to overthrow the democratic government by force, to my knowledge.




Not from what I have seen. Dozens, if not hundreds have been banjected by the looks of it. Could all of those people really been "enemies of the state"?


Many invaders have come back dozens of times with puppets, unfortunately. They are persistent in their attempts to overturn the people's will.

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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:00 pm

The Minnows wrote:
Beta Test wrote:


Not from what I have seen. Dozens, if not hundreds have been banjected by the looks of it. Could all of those people really been "enemies of the state"?


Many invaders have come back dozens of times with puppets, unfortunately. They are persistent in their attempts to overturn the people's will.



But was the people's will communism?
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Michael Ferreira: President of the Senate
Philip Awad: Former Secretary of Rural Development

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Frisbeeteria
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Capitalizt

Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:02 pm

There are several extensive discussions of events in the South Pacific over in the Gameplay forum. Take the Gameplay discussion there, and use this thread to discuss ONLY the proposed resolutions.

Thank you.

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Astracarn
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Founded: Nov 03, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Astracarn » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:11 am

Astracarn is firmly against this proposed condemnation.

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Lint Roller
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Ex-Nation

Postby Lint Roller » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:59 am

Opposed by myself and any true South Pacific nation who is loyal to the region and Milograd's glorious revolution.
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Kringalia
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Founded: Feb 03, 2013
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Support

Postby Kringalia » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:14 am

The Republic of Kringalia strongly supports this resolution. Milograd has betrayed the people's mandate, under which he was democratically elected. He has ignored elected institutions (hardly democratic) and banjected several nations who (like me) originated in The South Pacific and had been there for all their existence, and whose only "crime" was to oppose his regime and endorse Brutland and Norden, now the legitimate Delegate.
In fact, and you can ask all nations in the region, Milograd proclaims that there is no endorsement limit but always waits until the end of the day to eject nations that endorse his opponent, that us hardly democratic and the excuse of enemies of the state is nonsense because we are talking about nations that have waged no campaign against the established government. If voicing your opinion is becoming an enemy of the state, then we are all guilty. That is preposterous, it is saying that freedom of expression is granted insofar as you don't disagree.
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G-Tech Corporation
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:21 am

Yawn.

G-Tech Corporation will vote against this resolution, and I shall encourage Ankh Mauta's delegate to do likewise.
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Cinistra
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Founded: Oct 13, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby Cinistra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:21 am

A lot of talk, but no draft?
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:15 am

Cinistra wrote:A lot of talk, but no draft?


Actually, there's already a condemnation proposal in the WA though I can't say if it came from this thread. It'll never pass though, as it overreaches what a Condemnation can do quite handily.
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Astracarn
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Founded: Nov 03, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Astracarn » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:02 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Cinistra wrote:A lot of talk, but no draft?


Actually, there's already a condemnation proposal in the WA though I can't say if it came from this thread. It'll never pass though, as it overreaches what a Condemnation can do quite handily.


Link didn't seem to work.

Here: http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1366850369

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Three Lands
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Founded: Jan 01, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Three Lands » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:27 pm

I'd vote for it. The South Pacific is a storied region and it is sad seeing it taken over by these silly individuals who inflict worn out communist propaganda slogans on us.

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The Marxist State
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Postby The Marxist State » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:48 pm

Oh yeah, a third condemnation. That'll really show him!

Puh-leaze.
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Feux
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Founded: Mar 20, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Feux » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:48 pm

Lets reward Milo with a another condemnation badge. What he has done is terrible. :P

* Looks around.

Someone write some draft in this thread please.
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Frisbeeteria
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Capitalizt

Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:53 pm

Feux wrote:* Looks around.

Damn! Still no draft?
Feux wrote:Someone write some draft in this thread please.

No, start your own thread. This one is getting locked.

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