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[DRAFT] Condemn "The Communist Region"

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Divine Celerity
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[DRAFT] Condemn "The Communist Region"

Postby Divine Celerity » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:28 pm

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Condemn the Communist Region

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: The Communist Region | Proposed by: Divine Celerity


Recognizing the Security Council as an international body in the World Assembly.

Acknowledging that communism is a controversial theory that is well-loved and hated.

Disappointed at the fact that the communist region is communist in name only; it generates the hatred of Communist nations and Anti-Communist nations alike.

Concerned with the increasing influence of the communist region as its nations attempt invade other regions, such as Soviet Republics Region and Yes.

Appalled at the lack of democracy and the amount of corruption in the region's nation, the horrible abuses of the region's founder, and the invasions of other regions.

Hereby condemns the communist region


Any other ideas?

This was done rather quickly...
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Jamie Anumia
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:33 pm

I'm not sure this proposal is legal under Rule 4(e) (see this) as you're condemning a region based on ideology - which you can't do without explaining what Communism is - as explained by Sedge - here.

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Postby Divine Celerity » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:46 pm

Jamie Anumia wrote:I'm not sure this proposal is legal under Rule 4(e) (see this) as you're condemning a region based on ideology - which you can't do without explaining what Communism is - as explained by Sedge - here.


I'm not condemning it based on ideology. It's on its undemocratic and dictatorial actions and the fact that it does not follow communism which has it gain hatred from communists and anti-communists.

It's more on the actions than on pseudo-communism, though.

(e) Contain reference to ideologies without explaining how they apply to NationStates in terms of actions, policies or attributes of nations/regions.


They claim they are communist but they do not behave in a communist manner. This sparks hatred from communist nations, because the pseudo-communism offends them, and anti-communist nations, because the region refers to itself as "communist", but does not follow any communist principle.

As for the other reasons, it invades random regions in an attempt to impose a dictatorial government on the target regions. The founder is a tyrant and recently barred executive control in the middle of elections. It is a political wasteland where cheating and revolutions abound.
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Jamie Anumia
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:53 pm

Divine Celerity wrote:-snip-

Eh. I understand your point. But how is them being 'communist in name only' relevant to NS? Why are the actions of this region so bad that they deserve condemnation? The content needs some more work - because, looking at past condemnations - this region hasn't seemed to have done anything overly 'bad'.
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Postby Divine Celerity » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:59 pm

Alright, I take out the reference to the pseudo-communism, until I can make it relevant to NS as a whole.

I do have to say, though... It attempted to invade several regions a few months back. The founder would be the one who should deserve the condemnation, mainly.

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Postby Jamie Anumia » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:03 pm

Divine Celerity wrote:Alright, I take out the reference to the pseudo-communism, until I can make it relevant to NS as a whole.

I do have to say, though... It attempted to invade several regions a few months back. The founder would be the one who should deserve the condemnation, mainly.

I'm still not seeing what makes this region so 'bad' and deserving of condemnation compared to similar situations which resulted in condemnation of raiding activities such as this one and this one.

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Postby Blue Wolf II » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:42 pm

Ah, I get it, it's basically a parody of the first "Condemn Nazi Europe".

I see what you did there, I see it.

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Postby Divine Celerity » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:11 pm

How'd you... :o

get it so fast?

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Postby Blue Wolf II » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:18 pm

After all the whining I listened to between the first Condemn NE passing, the 8 or so attempts to repeal it, and the second one passing, sort of hard to miss the reference.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:54 am

Sure, why not? The SC is a joke now anyway. Let's condemn and invade every region while we're at it.
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Postby Die Volkes Lebensraum » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:26 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:Sure, why not? The SC is a joke now anyway. Let's condemn and invade every region while we're at it.


And then a region that deserves condemning (Antifa) does not get condemned.

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Postby Playing Field » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:55 pm

Divine Celerity, if you're so enraged at the welcome we gave you in the TCR, you shouldn't have posted all of those inflammatory remarks on our RMB.

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Postby Scupin » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:46 am

No I second this proposal - I have seen communist regions talking about TCR in a hateful manner because they are communist only in name, and many of those making attempts to overthrow it. This proposal is legal.


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