[draft]Condemn Auralia

[Abacathea]

Some of you may remember my first ever attempt at branching into the SC was this little number. Since then...needless to say, the situation has changed. And a fully (valid I might add) idea for a resolution has formed.

As I stated in my attempt earlier to commend my home region, SC writing seems difficult to me, there is no margin for error it seems in drafting. So be cruel, but try and be kind too. (And please, no comments simply because we may/may not (yes both sides of the coin here) like Auralia).

Condemn Auralia

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation | Nominee: Auralia | Proposed by: Abacathea

Description: recognizing the functions of the Security Council as an official body of the esteemed World Assembly, specifically in this instance the function of condemning nations who blatantly violate, disregard and disrespect both the hallowed halls of the WA, WA legislate, WA members and in principal that nations very own citizens by doing so;

Further recognizing that the majority of laws passed, while sometimes poorly executed by their makers, are conceived with the best interests of the NationStates communities at heart nonetheless;

Outraged that a member of the WA, and an author of WA legislation no less, has announced their disregard for WA mandates of compliance to any act that meets their distaste, including but not limited to:

GAR #15, "Freedom of Marriage Act;

GAR #54, "Dignified End of Life Choices;

GAR #91, "A Convention on Gender;

GAR #128, "On Abortion;

effectively breaching WA#2 Article 9 which states;

Every WA Member State has the duty to carry out in good faith its obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law, including this World Assembly, and it may not invoke provisions in its constitution or its laws as an excuse for failure to perform this duty."

Whilst continuing to push their own branch of legislate upon the WA community. Essentially imposing a "do as I say, not as I do" agenda on the WA floors;

Concerned that a nation who's among one of the worlds most armed and influential is setting a bad example to members of the World Assembly and it's far reaching influence;

Further worried by Auralia's staunch opposition to furthering international justice, including their firm opposition to an international criminal court and the inevitable global fallout due to the level of influence and "clout" this nation believes it carries internationally;

Believing that the Security Council has an onus and obligation to act on this matter and be seen to hold nations with such influence to just as high a standards as those who are newly entering these hallowed halls.

Hereby Condemns: Auralia.

[United Federation of Canada]

You may want to consider adding the following clauses:

Appalled that Auralia attempts to force their religious beliefs on the rest of the international community, and furthermore refuses to comply with the following General Assembly resolutions for the only reason that they are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, in direct violation of GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION # 2:

GAR #15, "Freedom of Marriage Act;

GAR #54, "Dignified End of Life Choices;

GAR #91, "A Convention on Gender;

GAR #128, "On Abortion;

Or something of that nature. I'm sure you will figure out how to fit a clause of that nature in.

[Feux]

Also, I'd like to address your proposal format. I'd advise that you remove the : after the word starting each clause, with the expection of the "Hereby Condemns" clause, then end each clause with a ;

Like so:

Concerned that a nation who's among one of the worlds most armed and influential is setting a bad example to members of the World Assembly and it's far reaching influence;

It's just a format suggestion though, there is nothing offical really.

[Abacathea]

Also, I'd like to address your proposal format. I'd advise that you remove the : after the word starting each clause, with the expection of the "Hereby Condemns" clause, then end each clause with a ;

Like so:

Concerned that a nation who's among one of the worlds most armed and influential is setting a bad example to members of the World Assembly and it's far reaching influence;

It's just a format suggestion though, there is nothing offical really.

Agreed, it does add a polished look to it. Changes made to reflect, also new text added at the same time as the edit's were made.

You may want to consider adding the following clauses:

Snip~

Or something of that nature. I'm sure you will figure out how to fit a clause of that nature in.

Addressed, although might tidy it up further, but for now, addressed.

[Feux]

I seem to have made a mistake, the "Hereby Condemn" clause should look like this:

Hereby Condemns: Auralia

[Abacathea]

I seem to have made a mistake, the "Hereby Condemn" clause should look like this:

Hereby Condemns: Auralia

Edited to reflect. Many thanks for your assistance in touching up the formatting

[Feux]

I seem to have made a mistake, the "Hereby Condemn" clause should look like this:

Edited to reflect. Many thanks for your assistance in touching up the formatting

No problem, happy to help.

[SkyDip]

Breaking WA laws is enough to get you Condemned nowadays? Where do I sign up?

[Feux]

Breaking WA laws is enough to get you Condemned nowadays? Where do I sign up?

SC Resolution #107 needs to be repealed then.

[SkyDip]

Breaking WA laws is enough to get you Condemned nowadays? Where do I sign up?

SC Resolution #107 needs to be repealed then.

Votes For: 6,122 (51%)
Votes Against: 5,989 (49%)

Wouldn't be too difficult, I imagine.

[San Leggera]

Against. Ignoring WA proposals is an incredibly petty reason to condemn a nation.

Breaking WA laws is enough to get you Condemned nowadays? Where do I sign up?

SC Resolution #107 needs to be repealed then.

Eh, I'd argue that it should stay based on Hippostania's reaction to the condemnation more than anything. He deserves at least some recognition for his RPing, whether or not the argument for the condemnation is valid. R&Ring would take forever.

[Abacathea]

Against. Ignoring WA proposals is an incredibly petty reason to condemn a nation.

Proposals yes, laws no. Is it not arguable that the bulk of SC condemnations is by virtue for crimes against people, deprivation of basic rights, and in it's core, the violation of international law, which ignoring/disregarding WA laws is at it's core?

Breaking WA laws is enough to get you Condemned nowadays? Where do I sign up?

SC Resolution #107 needs to be repealed then.

Eh, I'd argue that it should stay based on Hippostania's reaction to the condemnation more than anything. He deserves at least some recognition for his RPing, whether or not the argument for the condemnation is valid. R&Ring would take forever.

This happened after the fact, meaning the core of the condemnation at the time, was still valid.

[San Leggera]

Against. Ignoring WA proposals is an incredibly petty reason to condemn a nation.

Proposals yes, laws no. Is it not arguable that the bulk of SC condemnations is by virtue for crimes against people, deprivation of basic rights, and in it's core, the violation of international law, which ignoring/disregarding WA laws is at it's core?

Well, that didn't seem to make much sense. If you're arguing that ignoring a WA resolution equates to deprivation of basic rights, you're undeniably wrong. Your use of "Crimes against people" could refer to just about anything you like given its extreme vagueness.

[[Proposal, resolution, law... They're all the same thing. Semantics won't take this argument far.]]

[Abacathea]

Proposals yes, laws no. Is it not arguable that the bulk of SC condemnations is by virtue for crimes against people, deprivation of basic rights, and in it's core, the violation of international law, which ignoring/disregarding WA laws is at it's core?

Well, that didn't seem to make much sense. If you're arguing that ignoring a WA resolution equates to deprivation of basic rights, you're undeniably wrong. Your use of "Crimes against people" could refer to just about anything you like given its extreme vagueness.

[[Proposal, resolution, law... They're all the same thing. Semantics won't take this argument far.]]

Very well, you are quite right, and truth be told, I usually am quite fond of your input into my work. Semantics aside then, lets look at this from a real perspective, all bias etc... aside.

Firstly, there's the sheer international hypocrisy of do as I say not as I do, but we'll ignore that, I suspect many nations are guilty of that.

That said, lets examine what Auralia IS at their core doing (thanks to UFoC for this, as I couldnt find it last night):

GAR #15, "Freedom of Marriage Act;
The deprivation of same sex marriage, and anything deemed unethical per the catholic church in respect of marriage. Essentially a deprivation of civil liberties by non conformation.

GAR #54, "Dignified End of Life Choices;
Again, a further deprivation of civil liberties despite the allowances this act makes for the betterment of people, Auralia again, says no.

GAR #91, "A Convention on Gender;
Essentially same as the above

GAR #128, "On Abortion;
I'm sure we've both seen enough on this one on the GA floor that I really dont have to comment...

It's not just the ignorance of resolutions, I know quite a few have chosen to ignore specific resolutions in their time, it's WHICH resolutions and the backlash that makes it all the more of an offence.

I think it's important not to forget the very core of a condemnation:

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region

This in essence seems perfectly applicable given the above.

[SkyDip]

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region

This in essence seems perfectly applicable given the above.

Simply violating WA rules - again, something multiple nations do quite blatantly - won't be enough to warrant condemnation, IMHO. Personally, I think Auralia's work in the GA and on the Technical side of things warrant a Commendation, if anything.

[Abacathea]

This in essence seems perfectly applicable given the above.

Simply violating WA rules - again, something multiple nations do quite blatantly - won't be enough to warrant condemnation, IMHO. Personally, I think Auralia's work in the GA and on the Technical side of things warrant a Commendation, if anything.

Ha! Ironically back when I was on side with that view it was nay'd lol. Can't win!

[SkyDip]

Simply violating WA rules - again, something multiple nations do quite blatantly - won't be enough to warrant condemnation, IMHO. Personally, I think Auralia's work in the GA and on the Technical side of things warrant a Commendation, if anything.

Ha! Ironically back when I was on side with that view it was nay'd lol. Can't win!

We're a picky lot.

[Abacathea]

Ha! Ironically back when I was on side with that view it was nay'd lol. Can't win!

We're a picky lot.

Seems I've some work to do to ingratiate myself here as well as author something worthwhile

[United Federation of Canada]

We're a picky lot.

Seems I've some work to do to ingratiate myself here as well as author something worthwhile

I would not give up on this based only on Skydip's objection. In his opinion ONLY, Auralia should not be condemned for these actions. The rest of the international community may take a separate stance.

This in essence seems perfectly applicable given the above.

Simply violating WA rules - again, something multiple nations do quite blatantly - won't be enough to warrant condemnation, IMHO. Personally, I think Auralia's work in the GA and on the Technical side of things warrant a Commendation, if anything.

Then why not write a commendation for Auralia? I am sure the rest of the international community would not share your same views.

[SkyDip]

Then why not write a commendation for Auralia? I am sure the rest of the international community would not share your same views.

OOC: I'm sure more people are grateful for his scripts than would take offense at his RP actions.

[United Federation of Canada]

Then why not write a commendation for Auralia? I am sure the rest of the international community would not share your same views.

OOC: I'm sure more people are grateful for his scripts than would take offense at his RP actions.

Yes that is out of character. Do we now commend people for their "Real Life" contributions in the Security Council?

We are discussing IC violations of GA resolutions here, which are condemnable.

[Feux]

OOC: I'm sure more people are grateful for his scripts than would take offense at his RP actions.

Yes that is out of character. Do we now commend people for their "Real Life" contributions in the Security Council?

We can if someone wanted too; it's been done before. It's all in how you word it, something like:

Grateful for the contribuations made by Auralia, which have greatly improved the capability of commication between nations in the international community;

Or something like that, thinking off the top of my head.

[United Federation of Canada]

rateful for the contribuations made by Auralia, which have greatly improved the capability of communication between nations in the international community;

But the NATION of Auralia has not made any such contributions, in fact they oppose it, by being in non-compliance of the Internet Neutrality Act, so that would be a 4(a) violation.

Sorry don't mean to threadjack.

[Daynor]

The above post is very much incorrect, please ignore.

I'll be voting against this, however. Noncompliance is pretty common.

[Feux]

rateful for the contribuations made by Auralia, which have greatly improved the capability of communication between nations in the international community;

But the NATION of Auralia has not made any such contributions, in fact they oppose it, by being in non-compliance of the Internet Neutrality Act, so that would be a 4(a) violation.

Sorry don't mean to threadjack.

The above post is very much incorrect, please ignore.

I'll be voting against this, however. Noncompliance is pretty common.

Anyway. I agree with Topid, noncompliance is very common, but you are getting the hang of proposal writing Anacathea. You just need to find the right path. Keep trying.