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[SUBMITTED] Repeal "Condemn Hippostania"

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Postby Feux » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:59 pm

Toronina wrote:Could there be a stupider SC Propasal?

I thing Jamie did a rather nice job writing a repeal for a proposal that shouldn't have passed in the first place. Anyway, you should probably poke around the Security Council forum if you want stupid.
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Postby Hakidaku » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:25 am

Toronina wrote:Could there be a stupider SC Propasal?


Although it pains me to say Jamie did write a good SC proposal.

The nation in concern did not really condemn that violent acts to merit a proposal.

There are much stupider proposals like ones to liberate warzones :rofl: .
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:28 am

Aaaaand. Re-submitted. Fingers crossed it reaches quorum this time.

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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:32 am

"The JUR has reevaluated it's position on the resolution and will now support, should it reach quorum."

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Postby Cromarty » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:32 am

Approved.
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Cromarty wrote:Approved.

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:56 am

Gordano-Lysandus restates it's opposition to the repeal. Hippostania has made no efforts to deal with the issues presented by political, social and economic repression within their borders and their illegal warmongering outside of it. It is imperative that the international community shows solidarity.
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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:08 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Gordano-Lysandus restates it's opposition to the repeal. Hippostania has made no efforts to deal with the issues presented by political, social and economic repression within their borders and their illegal warmongering outside of it. It is imperative that the international community shows solidarity.

"We ask that you note the vote of the resolution to condemn Hippostania. It passed 51%-49%. If there wasn't solidarity in the International Community then, I doubt there will international solidarity in this case, either."

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:34 am

This proposal is, to put it politely, filled with nothing but blatant lies and excuses that any regime could use. Just because their atrocities weren't as horrendous as some doesn't mean that they shouldn't be called out on it. And the idea that any World Assembly nation has the right to violate a resolution simply because it's not in their interests has been thrown out time and again. Still firmly against.
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Wisconsin9 wrote:This proposal is, to put it politely, filled with nothing but blatant lies and excuses that any regime could use. Just because their atrocities weren't as horrendous as some doesn't mean that they shouldn't be called out on it. And the idea that any World Assembly nation has the right to violate a resolution simply because it's not in their interests has been thrown out time and again. Still firmly against.

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Postby Feux » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:47 pm

Approved and voting for.
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:27 pm

Hippostania deserved to be condemned by the international community for their actions, and we fully supported the condemnation.

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Postby Feux » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:27 pm

Jamie Anumia wrote:Aaaaand. Re-submitted. Fingers crossed it reaches quorum this time.

Maybe if you campaigned a little more. :roll:

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Postby Ainin » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:53 pm

"The Republic of Ainin supports this proposal as the way Condemn Hippostania was worded was very vague."
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Postby Zokoria » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:12 am

Henrik Müller reacts:

"We strongly support this resolution, since that so-called "condemnation" have damaged Hippostania's reputation."
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:14 am

Zokoria wrote:Henrik Müller reacts:

"We strongly support this resolution, since that so-called "condemnation" have damaged Hippostania's reputation."

...Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason the condemnation was written was because that same reputation was already in the toilet, as it were, due to the actions of the nation in question? That that was the whole reason for it?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:52 am

Zokoria wrote:Henrik Müller reacts:

"We strongly support this resolution, since that so-called "condemnation" have damaged Hippostania's reputation."

Nah. What really damaged their reputation was their asinine, petulant, childish, outrageous, aggressive, uncalled for, and extremely illegal response to the condemnation which, again, was to storm the embassies and arrest ambassadors of nations who agreed with it, a response that almost certainly would have earned a condemnation even without the rest of their flagrant violations of international law.
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Postby Cromarty » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:12 am

Whilst ICly Hippostania may be condemnable (no more than most lolevil nations tbh), OOCly Hippo hasn't contributed enough to the II community to join a club that includes Milograd, AMF and Kraven.
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Postby Radiatia » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:14 am

Cromarty wrote:Whilst ICly Hippostania may be condemnable (no more than most lolevil nations tbh), OOCly Hippo hasn't contributed enough to the II community to join a club that includes Milograd, AMF and Kraven.


[OOC: I couldn't agree less. Hippostania has actually made quite an excellent contribution to the II and NS community and I think that he, the player, fully deserves to be recognised for it.]

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Postby Dakran » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:19 am

I am sorry but we cannot support this resolution. If this manages to get into the voting, I will be voting AGAINST.
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Postby Lamoni » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:31 am

The Free Republic of Lamoni will be voting AGAINST any such repeal, both as a WA member, and as the WA delegate of the region of Greater Dienstad. Hippostania's actions speak for themselves, and given that their first reaction to the condemnation was to arrest the ambassadors of the nations which passed the condemnation, we feel that there is no way that we could possibly be convinced to support any such repeal, now or in the future.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:40 am

response to the condemnation which, again, was to storm the embassies and arrest ambassadors of nations who agreed with it,


given that their first reaction to the condemnation was to arrest the ambassadors of the nations which passed the condemnation,

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Postby Cromarty » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:56 am

Radiatia wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Whilst ICly Hippostania may be condemnable (no more than most lolevil nations tbh), OOCly Hippo hasn't contributed enough to the II community to join a club that includes Milograd, AMF and Kraven.


[OOC: I couldn't agree less. Hippostania has actually made quite an excellent contribution to the II and NS community and I think that he, the player, fully deserves to be recognised for it.]

What contribution is this? Beyond questionable political beliefs and a knack for pissing people off.
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Postby The balkens » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:57 am

This will never get my approval, I sincerely hope that all delegates would join me in NOT approving it.

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Postby Demphorian WA Seat » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:08 pm

We disapprove, concerning that talks have broken down, we cannot look to a repealing of the condemnation

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