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[DRAFT] Condemn Krulltopia

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Amarek
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Postby Amarek » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:08 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:It has never been a secret that The United Federation of Canada's mission is to spread Freedom and Democracy throughout the international community, by force if necessary. We consider it our great privlege to bring freedom of speech and open elections to regions, who do not currently enjoy those freedoms.

So to answer your question, Yes we are prepared to condemn every dictorial region in the international community. Individual nations are free to run their own affairs as they see fit, but when a dictorial regime takes control of a region, and brutalizes a group of nations, we will stand prepared to uphold to virtues of freedom, and democracy.


Oh, what wonderful irony there is in forcing freedom down a nation's throat.

As for this condemnation, while I personally disagree with some of the practices that some of the feeder regions have adopted, most of the reasons listed here come off as less of a dictatorial regime and more like a well-oiled machine. Everything is done for a reason, and everything has its place. Krulltopia may not be the friendliest of the bunch, but he does know what he's doing. Against.

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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:41 am

Even more ironic is this post by UFC on the Gargantuan RMB

What I find amazing is that a nation of 8 million that has existed for less than a week, can have such opinions on Gargantuan.

If this was coming from a nation that had been here through even the LAST turmoil, let alone the numerous incidents before, I could lend their blasphemy some credence.

That being said, please do not suppress, as we hold free speech as a tenet here. Plus it is down-right entertaining to watch someone make an ass of themselves, for the WHOLE internet to see!!

The first and last sentences are especially delicious.
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The West Pacific's Official Welshman, Astronomer and Old Fart
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United Federation of Canada
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:03 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Even more ironic is this post by UFC on the Gargantuan RMB

What I find amazing is that a nation of 8 million that has existed for less than a week, can have such opinions on Gargantuan.

If this was coming from a nation that had been here through even the LAST turmoil, let alone the numerous incidents before, I could lend their blasphemy some credence.

That being said, please do not suppress, as we hold free speech as a tenet here. Plus it is down-right entertaining to watch someone make an ass of themselves, for the WHOLE internet to see!!

The first and last sentences are especially delicious.


How very kind of you to post that. Let me ask you though, what does that have to do with anything that is going on in this conversation involving Krulltopia? Also how thoughtful of you not to bother to post the comments from the other nation that I was responding to, that would tell the whole story, of that post.

I also find it humbling that you have spent 4 posts criticizing me, after existing for 9 years and only gracing the forums with 29 posts in total. I would guess that I must be doing something right here.
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Sardakhar
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Postby Sardakhar » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:03 am

United Federation of Canada wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Even more ironic is this post by UFC on the Gargantuan RMB


The first and last sentences are especially delicious.


How very kind of you to post that. Let me ask you though, what does that have to do with anything that is going on in this conversation involving Krulltopia? Also how thoughtful of you not to bother to post the comments from the other nation that I was responding to, that would tell the whole story, of that post.

I also find it humbling that you have spent 4 posts criticizing me, after existing for 9 years and only gracing the forums with 29 posts in total. I would guess that I must be doing something right here.


Let me ask you though, what does that have to do with anything regarding this proposal to condemn Krulltopia? I am perfectly aware that your intentions are good, but the next-to-last sentence has made me feel obliged to warn you to be careful from insulting other nations that disagree with you. Civil discussion, my friend, civil discussion.

On a more serious note, however, the fact that there is no single, large-scale, open rebellion against Krulltopia - if not launched in The Pacific itself, perhaps from The Rejected Realms or other regions - for 3 years and 222 days speaks for something. Of course, some discontent nations that have been ejected across the years might have spoken out over those years and made an appeal to the nations of the world, but some events remained low-profile. We agree with some other nations that Krulltopia has clearly done an effective job as Delegate of The Pacific to the World Assembly - enough to convince the nations of that region not to risk mounting a rebellion because they do not want to lose Krulltopia if the rebellion is indeed successful. Effectiveness makes up for dictatorship. Sometimes the reality of the world is cruel - but profitable.

A few years ago, on the streets of Sardakhar City, I went to a local bar. The bartender told me that he hated Jean Fraz - our president at the time. "Just don't tell anything about this to the authorities," that bartender said. "But I have feeling that 'establishing good government' is only an excuse to wipe out all his opponents."

I patted him on his arm. "Indeed, kid, but eliminating all the opponents actually released Fraz from all his troubles. The opponents won't listen or compromise with our president, who skillfully elevated the prestige of Sardakhar in the international world, improved our economy, and made our lives easier."

The bartender smiled. "You're right."

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Sardakhar Ambassador to the World Assembly
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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:25 am

United Federation of Canada wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Even more ironic is this post by UFC on the Gargantuan RMB


The first and last sentences are especially delicious.


How very kind of you to post that. Let me ask you though, what does that have to do with anything that is going on in this conversation involving Krulltopia? Also how thoughtful of you not to bother to post the comments from the other nation that I was responding to, that would tell the whole story, of that post.

I also find it humbling that you have spent 4 posts criticizing me, after existing for 9 years and only gracing the forums with 29 posts in total. I would guess that I must be doing something right here.

The point is you don't think a newly formed nation knows anything about your region, yet after a couple of months existence you are quite happy to come here and pontificate about how you think a feeder should be run.

No feeder is truly democratic - the number of nations participating in governing, for example, the West Pacific is less than 1% of the total population. Maybe the Pacific is just a bit more honest about it.

The number of posts I've made over the last nine years is truly irrelevant, somewhat like your SC submission.
Former Delegate of The West Pacific. Guardian (under many Delegates) of The West Pacific. TWP's Former Minister for World Assembly Affairs and former Security Council Advisor.

The West Pacific's Official Welshman, Astronomer and Old Fart
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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