[DRAFT] Condemn Krulltopia

[United Federation of Canada]

You know, throwing insults me doesn't exactly lend weight to you argument either.

By the way, I just suppressed a Nazi. I suppose that makes me evil, right?

I am not throwing personal insults at you, I am insulting the way you run your brutal regime.

By the way, I just suppressed a Nazi. I suppose that makes me evil, right?

That Nazi has just as much right to free speech and express his opinions, no matter how despicable they are, as much as anyone else. What gives you the right to suppress that freedom of speech.

Don't talk about the "obligations" of feeder regions until you've worked in their governments for a while.

How hard can it possibly be? I am a member of government of my region and it isn't too terribly difficult.

Allow free elections and free speech and allow recruiting as you are a FEEDER region after all.

Why the endorsement cap? What possible reason is there for it, other than to hold power for 4 years? If Krull was democratically elected for those 4 years then I could accept that, but no, he forces all new nations to endorse them, and NO ONE ELSE. Why?

Krull doesn't run an appealing region, and I for one and glad I did not start out in that region, and have that brutal tyranny be my first impression of Nation States.

[Feux]

Learn how to play the game and bother to learn anything about what you are talking about before taking up the mission to complain about it.

[United Federation of Canada]

Learn how to play the game and bother to learn anything about what you are talking about before taking up the mission to complain about it.

I do play the game, and know exactly what I am talking about. I am not conducting a mission to complain, I am conducting a mission to condemn Krulltopia for being a brutal dictator.

And yes I have read your factbook on Francoism, so don't bother pointing that out.

[Feux]

Learn how to play the game and bother to learn anything about what you are talking about before taking up the mission to complain about it.

I do play the game, and know exactly what I am talking about. I am not conducting a mission to complain, I am conducting a mission to condemn Krulltopia for being a brutal dictator.

And yes I have read your factbook on Francoism, so don't bother pointing that out.

That has nothing to do with what I am talking about. You are lacking any real sense of gameplay other than the fact Emperor Krulltopia is a dictator making this thread rather funny.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Why the endorsement cap? What possible reason is there for it, other than to hold power for 4 years? If Krull was democratically elected for those 4 years then I could accept that, but no, he forces all new nations to endorse them, and NO ONE ELSE. Why?

What did I tell you about using caps?

Krull doesn't run an appealing region, and I for one and glad I did not start out in that region, and have that brutal tyranny be my first impression of Nation States.

You do impressions? Go on, do Jimmy Cagney. "You dirty rat......"

Have to agree with Feux, you are providing the comedy relief around here. You have yet to provide one concrete reason why anyone should support this submission.

[Leutria]

I will admit, when I first joined NationStates (several years ago, not with this nation but one I have since forgotten the password for) I didn't even know I was in a region. It was recruiters that really taught me what regions were and showed me the game.

My point of saying that? I do not think feeders have an obligation to introduce new players to NationStates as this tends to be done by recruiters. As such, while it might be nice having a democratic feeder with a 5 star welcoming committee I hardly think they have an obligation to be either.

[The Great Destruction]

That has nothing to do with what I am talking about. You are lacking any real sense of gameplay other than the fact Emperor Krulltopia is a dictator making this thread rather funny.

I agree. If you don't like how Krull rules the region then find one you do like or start a coup.

[United Federation of Canada]

That has nothing to do with what I am talking about. You are lacking any real sense of gameplay other than the fact Emperor Krulltopia is a dictator making this thread rather funny.

I agree. If you don't like how Krull rules the region then find one you do like or start a coup.

Not a member of The Pacific and never have been.

Please don't babble aimlessly about matters you have no clue about.

Hopefully this draft will show the good nations of The Pacific that other nations are sympathetic towards their suffering and they will do something about that tyrant, and democracy and freedom will prevail.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Not a member of The Pacific and never have been.

Please don't babble aimlessly about matters you have no clue about.

Hopefully this draft will show the good nations of The Pacific that other nations are symathetic [sic] towards their suffering and they will do something about that tyrant, and democracy and freedom will prevail.

Are there any nations in the Pacific *actually* complaining about Krull's Delegacy en masse? Perhaps if you could get some members of the region in question to speak up, it would support your cause.

[United Federation of Canada]

Not a member of The Pacific and never have been.

Please don't babble aimlessly about matters you have no clue about.

Hopefully this draft will show the good nations of The Pacific that other nations are symathetic [sic] towards their suffering and they will do something about that tyrant, and democracy and freedom will prevail.

Are there any nations in the Pacific *actually* complaining about Krull's Delegacy en masse? Perhaps if you could get some members of the region in question to speak up, it would support your cause.

How can they? The Pacific Civil Code strictly prohibits nations of that region fron speaking out against the government upon penalty of banjection.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Are there any nations in the Pacific *actually* complaining about Krull's Delegacy en masse? Perhaps if you could get some members of the region in question to speak up, it would support your cause.

How can they? The Pacific Civil Code strictly prohibits nations of that region fron speaking out against the government upon penalty of banjection.

Ah. So you're admitting that no-one has come forward to support this.

Thanks.

[Jamie Anumia]

Krull should be commended for his service as delegate and his harsh stance against ad-spam. They have also been able to keep their region safe for a number of years. Anyway. Opposed.

[Vladisvok Destino]

Please don't babble aimlessly about matters you have no clue about.

If only you'd thought of that sooner we wouldn't be discussing this draft at all

[The Great Destruction]

Not a member of The Pacific and never have been.

Please don't babble aimlessly about matters you have no clue about.

Hopefully this draft will show the good nations of The Pacific that other nations are sympathetic towards their suffering and they will do something about that tyrant, and democracy and freedom will prevail.

Huh, ... it is aimless to point out the obvious to the uninitiated I suppose. Let me connect the dots for you. Since you are not a member of the region, your only option for repraisal would be to start a coup. Otherwise you can settle for just not belonging to the imposing region. As for getting a clue, what makes you think that I am not a member of The Pacific? Do you really think that a major region (especially a feeder) like that escapes mine or any other's notice for very long? You are a young country and propably newer to this game so I'll cut you some slack, but perhaps you should look into what is normal and generally excepted behavior for a Delegate. Perhaps read some of the passed condemn legislation and see what things make for condmnable actions.

[Autocracy of Romania]

Hello!

I agree to Condemn Krulltopia. Why? Because I was kicked out of the region without appeal, without telegrams with explanations.

And when I open a new thread for this problem with this dictator, I was thinking about at register to forum for the election campaign for delegate region and suggests the idea of ​​another political concept to rely on endorsements system, but I noticed with amazement that no exist section to trigger the election for delegate region. Krulltopia is a dictator, cowardly and fearful. What use is a long mandat if the region does not belong in law, is a region created by the man who made ​​the NationStates?

I hope not interpreted as seeking revenge.

[Cerian Quilor]

It sounds like you still don't get the nature of the NPO.

It /is/ a dictatorship. That's the whole flipping point.

[United Federation of Canada]

It sounds like you still don't get the nature of the NPO.

It /is/ a dictatorship. That's the whole flipping point.

Henceforth it should be condemned for what it is.

[Cerian Quilor]

It sounds like you still don't get the nature of the NPO.

It /is/ a dictatorship. That's the whole flipping point.

Henceforth it should be condemned for what it is.

Then I hope you're prepared to condemn every dictatorial region and nation in the game.

[United Federation of Canada]

Henceforth it should be condemned for what it is.

Then I hope you're prepared to condemn every dictatorial region and nation in the game.

It has never been a secret that The United Federation of Canada's mission is to spread Freedom and Democracy throughout the international community, by force if necessary. We consider it our great privlege to bring freedom of speech and open elections to regions, who do not currently enjoy those freedoms.

So to answer your question, Yes we are prepared to condemn every dictorial region in the international community. Individual nations are free to run their own affairs as they see fit, but when a dictorial regime takes control of a region, and brutalizes a group of nations, we will stand prepared to uphold to virtues of freedom, and democracy.

[Lopehi]

My thoughts:

First of all, since when does being a good Delegate and keeping the region safe deserve a Condemnation? If its the dictatorship aspect of Krull's Delegacy, then go and Condemn every dictatorial region in the game, whether they are GCRs or UCRs/PCRs.

Next, if the 5000+ nations of TP haven't criticised Krull's Delegacy yet, why are you? You're not even a member and have never been a member of TP, by your admission, so what the hellngives you the right to tell Krull how to rule his region. Have you been a Delegate of a Feeder region for 4 years? NO, you haven't! So stop acting like you know everything!

[United Federation of Canada]

My thoughts:

First of all, since when does being a good Delegate and keeping the region safe deserve a Condemnation? If its the dictatorship aspect of Krull's Delegacy, then go and Condemn every dictatorial region in the game, whether they are GCRs or UCRs/PCRs.

Next, if the 5000+ nations of TP haven't criticised Krull's Delegacy yet, why are you? You're not even a member and have never been a member of TP, by your admission, so what the hellngives you the right to tell Krull how to rule his region. Have you been a Delegate of a Feeder region for 4 years? NO, you haven't! So stop acting like you know everything!

This coming from a nation that is a civil rights lovefest lol!!

The nations of The Pacific are subjected to a brutal civil code that does not permit them to speak out against Krull under the fear of banjection.

Go read their forums and your tune may change.

[Cerian Quilor]

Pretty much sums my views up, UFC

[United Federation of Canada]

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Pretty much sums my views up, UFC

Oh I am very serious and I never troll.

You on the other hand are flamebaiting.

[Cerian Quilor]

No.

A wrongful accusation of flamebating on the other hand is...

well, no, its just exactly the kind of useless tactic I'd expect from someone who has demonstrated the thinking abilities you have.

[Sedgistan]

Cerian Quilor *** warned *** for trollnaming and flamebaiting.