[WITHDRAWN] Repeal "Liberate Christmas"

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Hi, my name is Captain Backlash, and I'm here to post another controversial repeal!

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Repeal "Liberate Christmas"

Category: Repeal | Resolution: SC#95 | Proposed by: Skyrim Diplomacy

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Description: WA Security Council Resolution #95: Liberate Christmas shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

RECOGNIZING that SC#95 completed the intended goal of removing the invisible password on Christmas,

NOTING that the passage of SC#95 prompted the occupation forces of Asgard and allied regions to withdraw from Christmas of their own accord,

WORRIED that SC#95 now presents more harm to any native nations in Christmas that may wish to protect the region from future raids such as that by Asgard that caused SC#95 to be applied,

TAKING INTO ACCOUNT that the forces of Asgard are now is disarray after a coup and that massive changes have happened to the core leadership of the region,

ALARMED that SC#95 would prevent native nations from effectively refounding Christmas to provide permanent security to the native community,

CONVINCED that the Security Council should give the native nations of Christmas the opportunity to provide for their own security in any way they see fit,

HEREBY REPEALS SC#95, Liberate Christmas.

Let the ideological debate begin (hopefully it isn't on the scale as the target here was)!

[Thehaloforrunners]

You already know my position
For

[Cerian Quilor]

For.

[Nostalgiacritic2nd]

For

[Bears Armed]

The usual question: Where's your evidence for native support?

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

The usual question: Where's your evidence for native support?

Hopefully, we'll hear from those who aren't inactive puppets shortly. I left an invitation to speak and notice that I had posted this draft, so hopefully we can hear some speak up in the next few days. But, as it's a rather inactive puppet-dump, I wouldn't be surprised if I don't get much reaction to that.

[Mahaj]

Too risky. No.

[Cerian Quilor]

Too risky. No.

Risk of what? Christmas actually being safe and secure someday?

[Nostalgiacritic2nd]

The delegate, may I remind you, is for it.
Perhaps if the defenders sent some support to him/her, then he/she could protect the region better. Christmas is probably not on the top of raiders list on places to raid, and it isn't that active.

[The Oblivion Wastes]

The delegate, may I remind you, is for it.
Perhaps if the defenders sent some support to him/her, then he/she could protect the region better. Christmas is probably not on the top of raiders list on places to raid, and it isn't that active.

The delegate is also a five-day-old nation, so that nation's opinion is rather irrelevant, especially as they aren't even old enough to be considered a native.

[Nostalgiacritic2nd]

The delegate, may I remind you, is for it.
Perhaps if the defenders sent some support to him/her, then he/she could protect the region better. Christmas is probably not on the top of raiders list on places to raid, and it isn't that active.

The delegate is also a five-day-old nation, so that nation's opinion is rather irrelevant, especially as they aren't even old enough to be considered a native.

That's true, but most of the natives are inactive.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Too risky. No.

Risk of what? Christmas actually being safe and secure someday?

If it's safe, it can't be defended from evil raiders!

Yesh, I saw the native support in the form of its Delegate raising the question elsewhere in this forum, regardless of how young said Delegate is. For.

[A Million Voices]

Seems fairly straightforward. I am for.

[Cormac Stark]

Before anyone asks, yes, that co-author is correct. Cormac and I worked on this before his unjust ousting from Europeia. Let the ideological debate begin (hopefully it isn't on the scale as the target here was)!

Just to clarify, I was never ousted from Europeia -- unjustly or otherwise. I'm assuming that was a typo and you were referring to Asgard, but I wanted to make sure that's clear.

In regard to my co-authorship, that was not only before my ousting from Asgard but also before a significant change in my gameplay views. I no longer support this repeal, it would have been more appropriate to contact me to ask if I still supported it, and I ask that my name be removed as a co-author. I'll submit a GHR to have this proposal removed if it is submitted with me listed as a co-author.

In regard to the proposal itself, while it is true that Asgard has been replaced by a successor region and while I can guarantee that Asgardia will not attempt to colonize Christmas for as long as I'm in charge -- that doesn't mean other raider regions won't try to do so. I find it odd and a bit ironic that this repeal is being proposed during another occupation of Christmas, as if to perfectly illustrate why this liberation resolution is still needed. Christmas is being raided right this minute and will be raided again in the future; given that no natives have WA status and are thus in no position to protect the region, to once again enable password protection is to invite other raider regions or organizations to do what Asgard attempted and failed to do. I am 110% opposed to this repeal.

[Cerian Quilor]

Uhm...occupation? Huh?

And, SkyDip totally called your reversal.

How much Kool-Aid did you drink?

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

<snip>

Will do, I'll remove your name from the draft.

If Christmas is being raided right now...are the defenders going to do anything about that? Isn't that why this silly Liberation was passed in the first place-to allow you lot to go and remove any evul WADs?

[Thehaloforrunners]

Before anyone asks, yes, that co-author is correct. Cormac and I worked on this before his unjust ousting from Europeia. Let the ideological debate begin (hopefully it isn't on the scale as the target here was)!

Just to clarify, I was never ousted from Europeia -- unjustly or otherwise. I'm assuming that was a typo and you were referring to Asgard, but I wanted to make sure that's clear.

In regard to my co-authorship, that was not only before my ousting from Asgard but also before a significant change in my gameplay views. I no longer support this repeal, it would have been more appropriate to contact me to ask if I still supported it, and I ask that my name be removed as a co-author. I'll submit a GHR to have this proposal removed if it is submitted with me listed as a co-author.

In regard to the proposal itself, while it is true that Asgard has been replaced by a successor region and while I can guarantee that Asgardia will not attempt to colonize Christmas for as long as I'm in charge -- that doesn't mean other raider regions won't try to do so. I find it odd and a bit ironic that this repeal is being proposed during another occupation of Christmas, as if to perfectly illustrate why this liberation resolution is still needed. Christmas is being raided right this minute and will be raided again in the future; given that no natives have WA status and are thus in no position to protect the region, to once again enable password protection is to invite other raider regions or organizations to do what Asgard attempted and failed to do. I am 110% opposed to this repeal.

Obviously I'm a raider. That's why I'm building embassies with the largest defender regions in ns.
No I'm not a raider, nor have any intention of raiding. Please get your facts straight before crying wolf.

[Eist]

This has potential for abuse. The current delegate is so new they are tripping over their umbilical cord. Furthermore, we have no idea what nation is behind this supposed puppet. For the good of Christmas I am strongly AGAINST this.

[Thehaloforrunners]

This has potential for abuse. The current delegate is so new they are tripping over their umbilical cord. Furthermore, we have no idea what nation is behind this supposed puppet. For the good of Christmas I am strongly AGAINST this.

? This is my main nation.
And I would never abuse a region with a name like Christmas. Of course actions speak louder then words, but what would be the point?
Right now I'm getting help from minecraftia and North Africa, hiring mercaneries to come and endorse me for regional security aganist raider originations.

[Cerian Quilor]

Because you know what is good for Christmas/Actually have the Good of Christmas in mind.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure

[Cromarty]

The current delegate is so new they are tripping over their umbilical cord.

This is a fantastic line.

[Cromarty]

This has potential for abuse. The current delegate is so new they are tripping over their umbilical cord. Furthermore, we have no idea what nation is behind this supposed puppet. For the good of Christmas I am strongly AGAINST this.

? This is my main nation.

And I'm Max Barry.

[Cerian Quilor]

? This is my main nation.

And I'm Max Barry.

Do you have any proof that haloforrunner is a puppet?

[Thehaloforrunners]

Because you know what is good for Christmas/Actually have the Good of Christmas in mind.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure

Lol
Perhaps if the nations were active, I would know what was best for them, or at least what I can improve on.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

? This is my main nation.

And I'm Max Barry.

Somehow I always suspected it!