[DRAFT] Condemn United Federation of Canada

[Reagan Island]

The Security Council,

Noting the interference that the United Federation of Canada has played in the existence of Gargantuan and all the good work that has been accomplished by the administration of Reagan Island,

Agreeing that going backward, rather than forward, in this uncertain time, would be extremely heinous to Gargantuan,

Recognizing United Federation of Canada has merely one goal in mind: to destroy the peace of Gargantuan,

Realizing that such behavior is demonizing and prevents a region from having healthy interactions with its inhabitants due to the region,

Understanding that his input is not welcome,

And believing that such behavior should not go unpunished,

Hereby condemns the nation of United Federation of Canada.

[Everbeek]

Good luck. You'll need it.

[Paper Flowers]

If you're serious about this it might help to give some examples of TITOs 'false pretenses' and 'over-eagerness' since it's likely more people will have heard of the cases where their intervention was welcome rather than the ones were it was not.

[Cinistra]

Good luck. You'll need it.

Indeed. However, you will need to work with the draft, though. Remember to back up your claims of "raiderism" in disguise with examples galore. But, you're right of course, 10KI must be condemned.

[Moogs World]

Even if your bald assertions of raiding in disguise are true, your beef seems to be with the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organization (TITO) rather than the region of 10000 Islands.

Many nations, including this one, are members of the Islands but are not involved in TITO.

[Everbeek]

Even if your bald assertions of raiding in disguise are true, your beef seems to be with the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organization (TITO) rather than the region of 10000 Islands.

Many nations, including this one, are members of the Islands but are not involved in TITO.

But because you can only Condemn nations or regions, Condemning either 10KI itself or its founder Grub would be the only ingame way to condemn TITO.

[Moogs World]

Even if your bald assertions of raiding in disguise are true, your beef seems to be with the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organization (TITO) rather than the region of 10000 Islands.

Many nations, including this one, are members of the Islands but are not involved in TITO.

But because you can only Condemn nations or regions, Condemning either 10KI itself or its founder Grub would be the only ingame way to condemn TITO.

That is not the problem of members of the Islands and this surely does not justify a shot-gun approach.

[Reagan Island]

But because you can only Condemn nations or regions, Condemning either 10KI itself or its founder Grub would be the only ingame way to condemn TITO.

That is not the problem of members of the Islands and this surely does not justify a shot-gun approach.

While it is our deep regret to affect the entire region, TITO is harbored within your region. Thus ushering it into the forefront of this issue. While our "beef" is, most certainly, with TITO, your region upholds the actions of TITO. In order to separate themselves from this misguided organization, I recommend a succession.

[Cinistra]

But because you can only Condemn nations or regions, Condemning either 10KI itself or its founder Grub would be the only ingame way to condemn TITO.

That is not the problem of members of the Islands and this surely does not justify a shot-gun approach.

Well, if it's a problem for the inhabitants of 10KI that they're associated with a military organizasition like TITO, you should address your concern with the authorities in 10KI, shouldn't you? Failing to do so, and still staying put in 10KI, will be a de facto recognition of the "intimate" relationship between TITO and 10KI. Thus, TITO can be regarded as the miltary branch of 10KI, just as the military forces of RL nations are the defences of their nation. You can't separate them.

[Moogs World]

That is not the problem of members of the Islands and this surely does not justify a shot-gun approach.

While it is our deep regret to affect the entire region, TITO is harbored within your region. Thus ushering it into the forefront of this issue. While our "beef" is, most certainly, with TITO, your region upholds the actions of TITO. In order to separate themselves from this misguided organization, I recommend a succession.

There are many regions whose governing bodies uphold the actions of TITO. Shall you condemn them all? While TITO may be firmly rooted in the Islands, for mine 10000 Islands as a region, with 2,700-plus nations, has grown into something much greater than the defense organization.

Your recommendation is noted and duly dismissed.

Besides, this discussion is moot. You have charged in blazing with accusations that remain unsubstantiated.

[United Federation of Canada]

Please do pray tell why you have a beef with TITO? If I remember correcty TITO liberated Gargantuan before you were a member of it, whuch you then swept in grabbed the Delegacy amd proceeded to password proect the region and boot out the natives!!

Seems more like revenge than anything to me for my proposed Liberation of Gargantuan and the fact that your hideous powerhungry, control-freak ways were displayed for the world to see in that thread.

AS I SAID TO YOU I was not speaking on behalf of TITO or 10K Islands and they had NOTHING to do with this. Maybe you should have tried to condemn me?

Either way this just shows what type of nation that you are to the world once again and once again you will fail.

[Moogs World]

That is not the problem of members of the Islands and this surely does not justify a shot-gun approach.

Well, if it's a problem for the inhabitants of 10KI that they're associated with a military organizasition like TITO, you should address your concern with the authorities in 10KI, shouldn't you? Failing to do so, and still staying put in 10KI, will be a de facto recognition of the "intimate" relationship between TITO and 10KI. Thus, TITO can be regarded as the miltary branch of 10KI, just as the military forces of RL nations are the defences of their nation. You can't separate them.

The allegations remain unsubstantiated and therefore the concerns you argue should exist do not.

[Anime Daisuki]

This was brought to my attention in the form of a complaint telegram from Reagan Island. By the time I login and read that telegram, the matter has been raised to the SC, so I'll reply here.

Reagan Island had complained that one of our nations, United Federation of Canada, has been 'harassing him'. This is likely true, as UFC himself has admitted that he sent Reagan Islands several telegrams asking RI to stop his dictatorial behavior over Gargantuan. Before this quarrel over the telegrams, UFC was also the nation who sponsored a "Liberation" proposal over Gargantuan, forcing Reagan Island to unpassword the region and let return a few natives. [Background info here]

There are a few things to note from this.

1. Reagan Island could have blocked UFC's telegrams anytime by using the Ignore button in his Inbox. (If he hasn't already, I suggest he do it now)
2. If UFC was rude, or insulting in his telegrams, RI could have made a complaint to the Mods.
3. While UFC resides in 10KI, he is neither a government official nor a TITO member. Our region has 2700 nations, we cannot be responsible for everyone of them.
4. UFC's liberation proposal was not discussed in our forum, I did not know about it until it was already submitted.

This seems like a squabble between two nations to me. Basically, Reagan Island was mad at UFC trying to interfere in his rule, and as revenge, decided to condemn 10000 Islands.


-GRO/AD

[Reagan Island]

This was brought to my attention in the form of a complaint telegram from Reagan Island. By the time I login and read that telegram, the matter has been raised to the SC, so I'll reply here.

Reagan Island had complained that one of our nations, United Federation of Canada, has been 'harassing him'. This is likely true, as UFC himself has admitted that he sent Reagan Islands several telegrams asking RI to stop his dictatorial behavior over Gargantuan. Before this quarrel over the telegrams, UFC was also the nation who sponsored a "Liberation" proposal over Gargantuan, forcing Reagan Island to unpassword the region and let return a few natives. [Background info here]

There are a few things to note from this.

1. Reagan Island could have blocked UFC's telegrams anytime by using the Ignore button in his Inbox. (If he hasn't already, I suggest he do it now)
2. If UFC was rude, or insulting in his telegrams, RI could have made a complaint to the Mods.
3. While UFC resides in 10KI, he is neither a government official nor a TITO member. Our region has 2700 nations, we cannot be responsible for everyone of them.
4. UFC's liberation proposal was not discussed in our forum, I did not know about it until it was already submitted.

This seems like a squabble between two nations to me. Basically, Reagan Island was mad at UFC trying to interfere in his rule, and as revenge, decided to condemn 10000 Islands.


-GRO/AD

I did not know I could condemn a single nation. I will pursue that. Thank you, my fellow Delegate.

[United Federation of Canada]

Be my guest I have done nothing but point out time and time again your region grefing ways. If you want to pursue this on the world stage instead of in private that is your right, but I must say it won't go well.

[Moogs World]

This was brought to my attention in the form of a complaint telegram from Reagan Island. By the time I login and read that telegram, the matter has been raised to the SC, so I'll reply here.

Reagan Island had complained that one of our nations, United Federation of Canada, has been 'harassing him'. This is likely true, as UFC himself has admitted that he sent Reagan Islands several telegrams asking RI to stop his dictatorial behavior over Gargantuan. Before this quarrel over the telegrams, UFC was also the nation who sponsored a "Liberation" proposal over Gargantuan, forcing Reagan Island to unpassword the region and let return a few natives. [Background info here]

There are a few things to note from this.

1. Reagan Island could have blocked UFC's telegrams anytime by using the Ignore button in his Inbox. (If he hasn't already, I suggest he do it now)
2. If UFC was rude, or insulting in his telegrams, RI could have made a complaint to the Mods.
3. While UFC resides in 10KI, he is neither a government official nor a TITO member. Our region has 2700 nations, we cannot be responsible for everyone of them.
4. UFC's liberation proposal was not discussed in our forum, I did not know about it until it was already submitted.

This seems like a squabble between two nations to me. Basically, Reagan Island was mad at UFC trying to interfere in his rule, and as revenge, decided to condemn 10000 Islands.


-GRO/AD

I did not know I could condemn a single nation. I will pursue that. Thank you, my fellow Delegate.

It seems a retraction and apology are in order.

ETA: It is unfortunate that you have altered both the original title and content of your defamatory opening post.

[Reagan Island]

Look. I don't know what your problem is with me, but knock it off. Name one way that I have given evidence to being some "power hungry dictator", as you say.

[Reagan Island]

I just received this TG from UFC. If this isn't evidence showing he is worthy of condemnation, I don't know what is!

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Delegate,

Be advised at this time it is my duty to inform you that as of this message, the United Federation of Canada hereby ceases all diplomatic relation with your nation.

The government has branded your nation a terroist nation and a region greifer.

As of this moment Canada hereby declares WAR on Reagan Island and will see this Righteous Crusade to remove you from power through to ultimate victory

Secretary of State
United Federation of Canada

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

[Moogs World]

Now the personal nature of this affair is obvious to all so it is clear that your original, and now erased, allegations against TITO and condemnation proposal against 10000 Islands were a sham.

[Reagan Island]

Now the personal nature of this affair is obvious to all so it is clear that your original, and now erased, allegations against TITO and condemnation proposal against 10000 Islands were a sham.

I still have a proposal to build against 10000 Islands, due to their under interference. However, my evidence is here-and-now, if you will, against United Federation of Canada.

What I guess I'm saying is this: it's going to take me at least a week to compile all my evidence and stories to organize a well thought out proposal against their actions.

[United Federation of Canada]

Yep like saving your region from raiders right? Geez man you just keep making this so easy!!!!

[Moogs World]

Now the personal nature of this affair is obvious to all so it is clear that your original, and now erased, allegations against TITO and condemnation proposal against 10000 Islands were a sham.

I still have a proposal to build against 10000 Islands, due to their under interference. However, my evidence is here-and-now, if you will, against United Federation of Canada.

What I guess I'm saying is this: it's going to take me at least a week to compile all my evidence and stories to organize a well thought out proposal against their actions.

As opposed to the knee-jerk and unsubstantiated proposal we saw today. We look forward to examining it if and when it eventuates.

My bolding.

[Reagan Island]

Yep like saving your region from raiders right? Geez man you just keep making this so easy!!!!

Making what so easy? Watch the exclamation points. You're sounding a little ... hot under the collar. Calm down UFC.

[Reagan Island]

I still have a proposal to build against 10000 Islands, due to their under interference. However, my evidence is here-and-now, if you will, against United Federation of Canada.

What I guess I'm saying is this: it's going to take me at least a week to compile all my evidence and stories to organize a well thought out proposal against their actions.

As opposed to the knee-jerk and unsubstantiated proposal we saw today. We look forward to examining it if and when it eventuates.

My bolding.

I would rather take my time and compile a proposal that is put together in an easily disected manner. I want to use the advice given. I will include examples.