Silly SC proposals - post them here!

[Kalibarr]

Whoa Whoa,I'm all in favor for WA neutrality in defender/raider affairs but you guys can't call the commendation biased and then propose a pro raider condemnation because that's biased too

[Sedgistan]

Plus its illegal, as you can't condemn a region that is already commended (and vice versa).

[Gobbannium]

Plus its illegal, as you can't condemn a region that is already commended (and vice versa).

Really?

::peers at ruleset::

Nope, I'm not seeing that written down anywhere. Is it a game mechanic restriction or just a devout wish?

[Sedgistan]

Ah, I was wrong there. That only applies if you're doing it for the 'same set of actions'.

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

Condemn 10000 Islands

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: 10000 Islands


Proposed by: FlagAfforess

Description: APPALLED that 10000 Islands is home to a notorious raiding organization.

SHOCKED that boasts about it 1025 attacks on other regions openly on its World Factbook Entry.

CONDEMNING those that claim "10000 Islands" is anything other than a forsaken land of thugs.

OUTRAGED that 10000 Islands often writes lengthy tales extolling the virtues of its villainous behavior.

DECLARING that such villainous behavior should not go unnoticed.

DEMANDING that 10000 Islands be condemned for it's utter lack of regard for other nations and for its constant attacks on otherwise peaceful regions.

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

Condemn Nationstates2

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Nationstates2


Proposed by: FlagOld American Patriots

Description: Recognizing Nationstates2 as the cause for the decline of the Nationstates Universe,

Horrified by the motto of Nationstates2: “Will kill babies, puppies, or kittens for money,”

Determined to eliminate regional message boards with the colors orange and blue used in combination,

Fearing the region Nationstates2 will suddenly close and ask all members to join a sucky region, such as NAZI EUROPE, Macedon, or 10000 Island.

Outraged at the various crimes admitted to in the world factbook entry,

Further outraged at the steep charge of membership which converts to $4320/day,

Motivated to eliminate the extreme greed demonstrated by FlagThe Dominion of Jolt and OMAC when it created Nationstates2,

The World Assembly hereby condemns Nationstates2.

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

Condemn Eagle Clan

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: Eagle Clan


Proposed by: FlagIsaacians

Description: That this region eject all of its members due to the neglegence of duty of its founder.

That the WA delegate here lost his status becuase he eject everybody in the region.

That the WA delegate lock the region.

We hereby condemn Eagle Clan

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

Commend Antarctic Oasis

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation


Nominee: Antarctic Oasis


Proposed by: FlagThe Palentine

Description: The World Assembly acknowledges and appreciates the years-long commitment to and involvement in the NSUN/WA by numerous members of the Antarctic Oasis region.

From the days of the NSUN to the present time, nations and former nations of this region have written dozens of resolutions for this august body, covering every issue from education, child pornography and necrophilia to landmines, terrorism and naval protocols -- as well as nut-kicking and multiple attempts to reopen the infamous abortion "Can of Worms."

Furthermore, the diplomats of this region have brought entertainment to floor debates with shockingly profane dolphins, Destructor Bunnies, pie fights, water fights, and karaoke contests.

Said diplomats have also been known to haunt the Strangers' Bar, and have vastly contributed to the atmosphere and ambiance of the famed drinking establishment (when not brawling, causing fires and explosions, and cruelly pranking other diplomats, that is).

Also worthy of note are various other "Antarctian" contributions to the world body, like soliciting bribes for votes, exploiting loopholes in legislation, keeping compliance officials at bay with gnomish warbands and kamikaze penguins, raising awareness of the Thessadorian Ambassador and her considerable assets, and uncovering indisputable archeological proof that the WA Secretariat member known as "Ardchoille" was originally called "Artichokeville."

It is because of these actions in making the NSUN/WA enjoyable that the World Assembly hereby COMMENDS the region of Antarctic Oasis.

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

Condemn The Security Council

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: The Security Council


Proposed by: FlagMad Sheep Railgun

Description: The World Assembly;

Noting the establishment, in June 2009, of the World Assembly Security Council;

Further Noting that the establishment of said council was accompanied by the introduction of new Resolution categories which affect gameplay;

Saddened that the introduction of these new Resolution categories has spread rancor and ill-will throughout the NationStates Multiverse;

Appalled that anyone would name a Region after such a troublesome entity;

Hereby condemns The Security Council.

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

I like where this is going. How did that precedent-setting gem get past the mods? Why was I so unlucky?

[The Monkye]

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

That's crap. Why should we have a Security Council at all if we want the WA to stick to this so called time honored tradition, which by my interpretation applies, and should apply only to the General Assembly? Ok everyone, they created a new part of the game for us to make it more interesting, but let's not use it because of a sacred code that we follow that was created before the new game mechanic, and is unable to accommodate the new game mechanic in any way. Bah.

It is my opinion that the Security Council should be free for everyone to use, even if there is a battle between ideologies in trying to control who gets liberated, commended or condemned, because it gives the game life, and it gives us the players something to do.

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

That's crap. Why should we have a Security Council at all if we want the WA to stick to this so called time honored tradition, which by my interpretation applies, and should apply only to the General Assembly?

Ironic then, that it was a Security Council resolution which enshrined the concept of this "time honoured tradition" in WA law, isn't it?

[The Monkye]

It's not so much ironic as it is the thing that I'm having a whinge about.

[Goobergunchia]

Ironic then, that it was a Security Council resolution which enshrined the concept of this "time honoured tradition" in WA law, isn't it?

Obiter dicta.

[Morlago]

Illegal. Violates the time honoured tradition of World Assembly neutrality and fairness to all nations and regions.

That's crap. Why should we have a Security Council at all if we want the WA to stick to this so called time honored tradition, which by my interpretation applies, and should apply only to the General Assembly?

Ironic then, that it was a Security Council resolution which enshrined the concept of this "time honoured tradition" in WA law, isn't it?

So? Just because that proposer was wrong doesn't me you have to be too.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

So? Just because that proposer was wrong doesn't me you have to be too.

Right. How long do you think it will be before you guys actually start taking responsibility for the stupid things you pass? Because at some point I'm sure the mods are going to give up on letting you "enforce your own standards" and start imposing them on you.

[Glen-Rhodes]

That's crap. Why should we have a Security Council at all if we want the WA to stick to this so called time honored tradition, which by my interpretation applies, and should apply only to the General Assembly? Ok everyone, they created a new part of the game for us to make it more interesting, but let's not use it because of a sacred code that we follow that was created before the new game mechanic, and is unable to accommodate the new game mechanic in any way. Bah.

Actually, the General Assembly doesn't have such a broad, sweeping "time honored tradition" that the Security Council now has. We just can't support one nation over another in wars or support one religion over another... I think that's pretty much it.

But I agree with Kenny, for probably the second time ever. When are you guys going to take responsibility for the things you pass? When the General Assembly screws up, we take responsibility. But we tend to not screw up with permanent repeals... since we generally know the rules about precedents and stuff. (Even if I think it's pretty bunk that repeals can't set precedent!)

So? Just because that proposer was wrong doesn't me you have to be too.

I wish that's how it worked in the entire World Assembly. That means I would just have to pass a resolution banning assisted suicide, rather than repealing Dignified End of Life Choices first! I mean, just because Studly Penguins was wrong...

[Kalibarr]

It really doesn't matter what it says people will still have that ideological battle you mentioned.

[Glen-Rhodes]

It really doesn't matter what it says people will still have that ideological battle you mentioned.

Duh. Nobody expects the mods to actually enforce the laws you guys write. Come the next C&C resolution, you guys will have established another rule contradicting the neutrality rule the repeal cemented down. That's the birthright of the SC.

[Kalibarr]

Is there no way to repeal a repeal?

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

It really doesn't matter what it says people will still have that ideological battle you mentioned.

Duh. Nobody expects the mods to actually enforce the laws you guys write. Come the next C&C resolution, you guys will have established another rule contradicting the neutrality rule the repeal cemented down. That's the birthright of the SC.

My guess is that they will simply ignore it and not even bother coming up with a rule contradicting the neutrality rule.

We really should have a thread for further discussion of this rather than continuing it here though.

Is there no way to repeal a repeal?

No, you can't repeal a repeal.

[Kandarin]

Is there no way to repeal a repeal?

Pass a new resolution that does the same thing that the repealed resolution did. Otherwise no.

[Gobbannium]

Is there no way to repeal a repeal?

None whatsoever. I've moaned about this before (in connection with repeals whose arguments had no points of contact with reality), but alas I couldn't convince anyone that it was a good enough reason to keep the "Bookkeeping" category

This doesn't stop new resolutions being written to much the same effect -- the GA has had three goes at defining Fair Trials, for example -- but the text of a repeal and the precedents that it sets can't be removed by any means at our disposal.

I foresee a flurry of precedent reinforcing repeals in our future

[Daynor]

Condemn The Conservative Coalition
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: The Conservative Coalition
Proposed by: Titanica

Description: NOTING the nation of Daynor, an active member of The Conservative Coalition government, attempted to assassinate the character of the nation of Grub by using an assortment of lies to mislead the World Assembly in a false condemnation of Grub.

FUTHER NOTING that Daynor proposed this false condemnation and then immediately resigned from the World Assembly because he knew of his misdeeds.

HEREBY condemns the government of the Conservative Coalition for letting one of their top officials openly file such a false and misleading proposal before the World Assembly and because Daynor has decided to go and hide like coward he is.

Approvals: 2 (Charlotte Ryberg, HockeyNutville)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 51 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 22 hours

Haha, condemn my region because I am there? I support! But I am a member of many more governments than just the CC, so you've got a lot of condemning to do.

Condemn Daynor
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Daynor
Proposed by: Titanica

Description: NOTING the nation of Daynor, an active member of The Conservative Coalition government, attempted to assassinate the character of the nation of Grub by using an assortment of lies to mislead the World Assembly in a false condemnation of Grub.

FUTHER NOTING that Daynor proposed this false condemnation and then immediately resigned from the World Assembly because he knew of his misdeeds.

HEREBY condemns Daynor for launching such a false and misleading proposal before the World Assembly and because Daynor has decided to go and hide like coward he is.

Approvals: 2 (Charlotte Ryberg, HockeyNutville)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 51 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 22 hours

Condemn Daynor:
1) He is a conservative
2) He tried to condemn master!
3) He is not in the WA

Ideological, followed by silly vengance condemning which could go on for days if I condemn him for condemning me, then his friend condemns me for condeming T... but I must admit, it doesn't surprise me that the WA is trying to condemn those who don't bow to them and follow their laws.

[Martyrdoom]

Yeah not too mention the use of 'coward', not once but twice: would not that be constituted as flaming or otherwise illegal? Grub should definitely be condemned for that in anycase!

[Daynor]

I haven't even gave them a reason to condemn me, yet. I do have some plans...

But those may be a few weeks/months down the road. I think we should wait to condemn me until all my condemnable actions are done.

Just kidding???

[Martyrdoom]

Fair enough

[Sedgistan]

Liberate The Cursed Continent of Lodoss

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region


Category: Liberation


Nominee (region): The Cursed Continent of Lodoss


Proposed by: FlagHanborvia

Description: any country that is Communist or Nazi like should be automatically be condemned by the World Assembly

Automatic condemnations? I think that falls under 'asking the SC to perform ab extra action'. Not to mention, the category seems inappropriate, and there's no argument to support it.

Liberate Empire of Power

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region


Category: Liberation


Nominee (region): Empire of Power


Proposed by: FlagEternal Life with God

Description: The Security Council,
Recognizing that the nation of Grub has a legitimate claim on the Empire of Power,
Yet observing that this claim is enforced at the expense of the people of the Empire of Power,
to whom their region is denied,
Further recognizing that the World Assembly has always placed mercy above all, and hoping that the nation of Grub will also have mercy on the Empire of Power,
hereby Liberates the Empire of Power, overturning Grub's claim to sovereignty over it.

Asking the SC to perform an extra action, again. The SC can't overturn sovereignty claims. Added to that, the clause "recognizing that the World Assembly has always placed mercy above all" while not illegal, is rather interesting...

[The Republic of Lanos]

SC rules are, if there are any, different than GA rules.