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[RESUBMITTED] Repeal "Liberate Nationalist Union".

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[RESUBMITTED] Repeal "Liberate Nationalist Union".

Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:49 am

Repeal "Liberate Nationalist Union".

Liberate Nationalist Union
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Nationalist Union

Proposed by: Oh my days

Description: RECOGNISING a region’s right to self-determination,

APPLAUDING Nationalist Union’s long community history,

DECRYING the occupation of Nationalist Union by extremist left-wing forces from Antifa,

EXPRESSING dismay at the use of a password to systematically remove the members of Nationalist Union from their home,

BELIEVING that this constitutes a threat to Nationalist Union’s very existence,

HEREBY Liberates Nationalist Union
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The Security Council;

RECOGNISING that the original resolution, "Liberate "Nationalist Union"", was intended to remove an ANTIFA-imposed password on Nationalist Union;

NOTING that the resolution manifestly failed in its purpose, as the region was refounded before the Liberation was passed;

CONCERNED that the continued existence of this resolution merely serves to undermine the SC, and sets a negative example to the world as a whole, showing that on occasion even the SC cannot prevent the success of raiders;

FURTHER NOTING that while there is a degree of charming symbolism in the statement that a refounded region was 'liberated', this symbolism runs contrary to the neutrality of the SC and its wider goals of promoting peace and security;

OBSERVING ALSO that the resolution in question was poorly written, brief and lacking detail as to the situation in Nationalist Union and the wishes of its inhabitants;

THEREFORE CONSIDERING this resolution a blot on the SC's copybook, and a 'lame duck' which has failed to achieve its original aim,

SOMEWHAT SURPRISED that this action has not been taken before now;

HEREBY REPEALS Security Council Resolution #85, "Liberate Nationalist Union".


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Postby Jamie Anumia » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:54 am

I'm indifferent. Doesn't matter whether it stays in place or not really.

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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:58 am

inb4askingfornatives!

Oh wait...nevermind. I'm all for repealing pointless Liberations.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:59 am

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:inb4askingfornatives!

Oh wait...nevermind. I'm all for repealing pointless Liberations.


So you'd support?
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:01 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:inb4askingfornatives!

Oh wait...nevermind. I'm all for repealing pointless Liberations.


So you'd support?

Yep. The current form looks rule-compliant to me.

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Postby United Military Colonies » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:08 pm

WOW :rofl:


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Postby Feux » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:26 pm

I'm FOR. Like SD said, pointless liberations.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:30 pm

As someone who was actually a native, I'd like to keep this one, purely for the game mechanic of barring the WA delegate from setting a password. Maybe they'll get sloppy a year or two from now.

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Postby Topid » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:32 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:As someone who was actually a native, I'd like to keep this one, purely for the game mechanic of barring the WA delegate from setting a password. Maybe they'll get sloppy a year or two from now.

I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that admins went back on their words and that Liberations now also bar founders from setting passwords too.
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:36 pm

Liberations don't affect the ability of founders to set passwords.

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Postby Cromarty » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:31 am

Against. The WASC shouldn't seek to help griefers, especially those who attacked and griefed an RP region that was not fascist.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:48 am

Cromarty wrote:Against. The WASC shouldn't seek to help griefers, especially those who attacked and griefed an RP region that was not fascist.


So you're against repealing a pointless Liberation, given that NU now has a founder, because it helps griefers.

:eyebrow:

Not seeing the logic there.
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Postby Cromarty » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:39 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Against. The WASC shouldn't seek to help griefers, especially those who attacked and griefed an RP region that was not fascist.


So you're against repealing a pointless Liberation, given that NU now has a founder, because it helps griefers.

:eyebrow:

Not seeing the logic there.

I'm against repealing a 'pointless' Liberation because it benefits Antifa to repeal it.

And fuck Antifa.

If Antifa really wanted my support for one of their resolutions, they could always focus on that other really famous Nazi region. Image
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:04 am

Cromarty wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
So you're against repealing a pointless Liberation, given that NU now has a founder, because it helps griefers.

:eyebrow:

Not seeing the logic there.

I'm against repealing a 'pointless' Liberation because it benefits Antifa to repeal it.

And fuck Antifa.

If Antifa really wanted my support for one of their resolutions, they could always focus on that other really famous Nazi region. Image


How does it benefit Antifa to repeal a Liberation resolution on a region that they've already refounded and hence have complete control over?
Don't be deceived when our Revolution has finally been stamped out and they tell you things are better now even if there's no poverty to see, because the poverty's been hidden...even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which these new industries foist on you, and even if it seems to you that "you never had so much" - that is only the slogan of those who have much more than you.

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Postby Cromarty » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:34 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Cromarty wrote:I'm against repealing a 'pointless' Liberation because it benefits Antifa to repeal it.

And fuck Antifa.

If Antifa really wanted my support for one of their resolutions, they could always focus on that other really famous Nazi region. Image


How does it benefit Antifa to repeal a Liberation resolution on a region that they've already refounded and hence have complete control over?

It's tacit approval of Antifa's action.
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:38 am

Cromarty wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
How does it benefit Antifa to repeal a Liberation resolution on a region that they've already refounded and hence have complete control over?

It's tacit approval of Antifa's action.

It's really not. They've succeeded already. Repealing a no longer needed liberation gives no benefit to Antifa.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:38 am

Cromarty wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
How does it benefit Antifa to repeal a Liberation resolution on a region that they've already refounded and hence have complete control over?

It's tacit approval of Antifa's action.


Not really, they did the deed ages ago, it's just repealing a piece of now-useless legislation.

You could argue that repealing any liberation is "tacit approval of [insert name of ebil raider satan war criminals here]'s actions", and the argument still wouldn't hold water.
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Don't be deceived when our Revolution has finally been stamped out and they tell you things are better now even if there's no poverty to see, because the poverty's been hidden...even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which these new industries foist on you, and even if it seems to you that "you never had so much" - that is only the slogan of those who have much more than you.

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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:12 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Cromarty wrote:It's tacit approval of Antifa's action.


Not really, they did the deed ages ago, it's just repealing a piece of now-useless legislation.

You could argue that repealing any liberation is "tacit approval of [insert name of ebil raider satan war criminals here]'s actions", and the argument still wouldn't hold water.

I'm afraid I have to agree with the ambassadors above. The resolution is tantamount to a waste of a placard on the walls of the SC at this point.


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